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A1012230 - Sol-fa: the key to the riddle of staff notation (1)
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Posted Oct 8, 2003 by The h2g2 Editors
Congratulations, Recumbantman, on your anniversary! bubbly

Incidentally, Richard Creasey, our co-founder, rides a Bromption into work too. He swears by them. smiley

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A1012230 - Sol-fa: the key to the riddle of staff notation (1)
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Posted Oct 8, 2003 by Recumbentman
Why thank you kindly, Messieurs & Mesdames Editors!

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A1012230 - Sol-fa (1): the key to the riddle of staff notation
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Posted Oct 8, 2003 by Recumbentman
By the way I've rehashed this entry a bit more and feel I'm done with it now . . .

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A1012230 - Sol-fa (1): the key to the riddle of staff notation
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Posted Oct 8, 2003 by Online NowMu Beta
Does that mean I'm a bit late with a suggestion?

I was merely going to posit that the reference to 'Doh, a Deer' might be more accurate if it was referred to by the song's actual title: 'Do, Re, Mi', possibly with a link to the lyrics:

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/kids/lyrics/doremi.htm

(link to Homer Simpson's alternative 'beer' lyrics optional. winkeye )

B

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A1012230 - Sol-fa (1): the key to the riddle of staff notation
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Posted Oct 9, 2003 by Sea Change
It's still not clear to me why you have chosen to switch from ancient to modern letter names in the place where you did. It does look like you have reworded it so that it's clear which notes you are referring to. They seem as arbitrary as they did before, though.

I have looked over the other 1/2 of the entry. The numbers without units are still disturbing to me, because I can't tell where they came from. It reads more smoothly now in general, but I suspect that is because you have catered to my commentary more than you might have liked, and my brain likes it's own ideas. I am curious what Auscnenaisse -scratch that- the German researcher thinks on rereading it.

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A1012230 - Sol-fa (1): the key to the riddle of staff notation
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Posted Oct 10, 2003 by U255
I am so hovering above the 'Accept' button barely able to restrain myself! Recumbentman (impressive bike ride, BTW!) would you like half a second to respond to the comments above?cheers

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A1012230 - Sol-fa (1): the key to the riddle of staff notation
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Posted Oct 10, 2003 by Ausnahmsweise, wie üblich (Consistently inconsistent)
Hi,

this is Ausnahmsweise, wie üblich, the British-Canadian researcher winkeye

I re-read it. I still have to go off on a tangent and look up other stuff. But that's because I have absolutely no musical background (except for percussion).

It certainly reads very nicely. Style, etc. is great. I'd press the button if I were you.

Awu.
I too am impresed by the bike ride. I'm a competitive roadie, but don't do anywhere near enough touring.


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Posted Oct 10, 2003 by Gnomon [See A60420098 for details of new sign-in system]
bubbly Congratulations! bubbly

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Posted Oct 10, 2003 by Cyzaki
Congrats! bubbly

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Posted Oct 10, 2003 by Geggs AKA Daddy Scambles
applause Well done!


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Posted Oct 10, 2003 by Recumbentman
Thank you again Geggs, Cyzaki, Gnomon . . . and thank you Ausnahmsweise and Sam. I was going to get back to you, Sea Change, but I wasn't sure just which entry you were referring to. The figures are all in Sol-fa (2) but the question came up in the So-fa (1) thread. The unexplained figures: I guess you mean the Ut 24, Re 27 table? . . . I did say above 'if Ut is 8x' and then 'taking x for granted' -- which was supposed to explain that.

The change from {G g etc} to all-captials is explained in the footnotes, but you are right -- the medieval distinction need not have been introduced at all. I did it for some sort of completeness, and also to explain the need for gamma.

This is not to say I want to change anything now; I'm afraid some people *will* have difficulty with these entries, simply because some people have difficulty with maths, lists, tables and such stuff. I sympathise, but recommend they either say 'whatever' and go on to another entry or else re-read until it makes sense, or until they get used to it at least.

And Master B, thanks for the correct name of the song. I'd prefer to leave the reference as it is, though (a quote of the first words) as that is clear and needs no explanation. 'Doh Re Mi' would have entailed putting in more words and God knows there are enough there already.

~R

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Posted Oct 10, 2003 by Zarquon's Singing Fish!
bubbly for Recumbentman! applause Great entry.

fish musicalnote

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Posted Oct 10, 2003 by Recumbentman
ta Z's S F!

All that bubbly -- I'm starting to cdouble

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Posted Oct 11, 2003 by Sea Change
Sorry about that, I find that I needed to read back and forth to understand the whole thing and had posted on the wrong thread.

Is 'x' a measurement in Hz? If it's not, I'd want to know what 1 represents.

But, now it is a matter for the Sub-Editor.

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Posted Oct 11, 2003 by Recumbentman
Yes, x is a measurement in Hz. When I say "if Ut is 8x" I invoke the convention that x can stand for any number. If x is 55 for instance, then 8x is 440, which would make the note A our current Ut.

As you say, it's up to the sub-ed to decide if this needs explanation. Or if such an explanation makes it any clearer.

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