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Posted May 3, 2009 by jwt13b
Hi everybody. My issue to talk about is something to do with what's written in the title... enough of being a smart-arse.
WHERE IS THE LINE BETWEEN FACT AND OPINION
(where does paranioa kick in, the opinion that people who see things quite probably are inclined to see these things)
Please read before thinking you know what my stance is on the topic.
My issue is that I was researching videos on theology, 'science and god' or 'scientist v ceationalist' as examples and I come across the conspiracy involving 'NWO' etc. also known as the big conspiracy (if there's anybody who has seen everything connected with this (political, theological, historical - even the occult), then it is for the most part shocking, on different levels of thought.
My admission is this, that once I had seen a huge range of videos, (not the first time i'd scratched the surface believe me) I must have been mad - seriously. I felt the need to share it in COMPLETE belief that i'd seen the truth that needed to be shared. Probably quite common too (conspiracy theorists) - not that that makes it easier. Yes, it's embarrasing.
I saw a post on here about them too - some good points, psychological reasons, what sort of people. Wish i'd seen that before the theory and perhaps I wouldn't be at this point.
My point is not what's true and what isn't (though that topic is welcome too) but what are the psychological aspects discovered around it compared to definate truth.
I know it's vague but...
I posted during a thread on one site - and quickly posted a conclusion to warn people of the blindness with which I gave myself to this cause. I said that I felt like i'd had a breakdown and also pointed out that not nearly everybody will be as weak as me (and by that I mean - so taken over by the negatives that even the most positive messages of love and understanding, get eclipsed by negative emotions and massive fear so in the end, you're spreading fear thinking you're doing something for good). But never the less, I know (or hope) that i'm not a lone nut but am part of a bigger picture who were perhaps more succeptable to panic about it.
Whether I believe parts of this or non of this doesn't matter because I haven't for any part of my life apart from this time thought that anybody could know the truth or threw open minded thinking aside so easily.
I admit that I'm an example of somebody vulnerable partly because of my own insecurities and weakness (which is one known psychological point used by anti-conspiracy arguers)
The main point I want to bring up is that - it was hard for me to find somebody I could turn to and now live with quite a bit of fear. This isn't supposed to be all about the writer but I thought that I'd give some backgrond.
My question is, what can people who are for and against - or whatever describes opinion - relate to eachother on/about. What's the opinion of a 'believer' who warns of what is true and what is based on opinion.
It's extreme to fully believe things (especially when there is an overload or lots of information) or totally disbelieve for the same opinonated type of reason.
So could anybody please comment who've maybe had an experience, people from both (or any) viewpoints. Or has debated or researched before.
I will not state whether or not I believe in one thing or another and anybody that knows this topic will know how deep and vast it is.
The reason for this is that I tried to influence people because I thought it was right. I am forever in shame for that even though my own personal message was love, understanding and a wish to help.
The fact that it's unclear what's fact, what can be debated, what already has, or what's reliant on opinion should have been obvious to me as reasons to be very careful - unfortunately it wasn't and i'm here - asking for a wider view.
Like I said - any perspective welcome (may be quite obvious but nice to write).
This is part of my new mission - to help understand this subject and even if I never escape my own feelings. Understand it enough to not help the spread of fear in society, or help those that have shared the experience.
Thanks a lot,
J
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Posted Jun 17, 2009 by janistan
Hello, jw13b!
I've just read your piece on different conspiracy theories and how it affects you. It's obvious that your mind doesn't cope with it!
So my advise to you is this: Find yourself a vacation from this crazy world of different mind-bozzling fantasies, talk with your parents, relatives, friends, curators, whatever, and explain your situation. The best cure is to visit earthbound, wise people with lifelong experience in plain and simple living. Work, eat, laugh and talk a week or month or two, and your mind will calm down and get straight again.
I've worked with difficult trees and special people (or was it the other way?) for thirty years now, and I've seen a lot of troubled minds calm down and find real, pure pleasure in something as simple as manual work, a fireplace, some laughs and tears. Try to find some nice, old people to visit!
My place on this earth is in the deep forests of Norway, and English isn't easily written as long as I'm used to my own språk... But I prefer English books and read a lot roundabout every theme that have interest. Also some conspiracy-stuff. Most of it is paranoid bullshit, some of it have some truth, but is strongly exaggregated and blown far above reality. And some known and well-documented facts appear as murky conspiracies only because goverments refuse to admit all of their secrets.
But if you get interested in REAL exitement and adventure, all this doomsday & pseudocrap disappears faster than a trout in the river!
Good luck to you, crazy diamond!
-janist
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Posted Sep 20, 2009 by chasgunter
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