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Ankle sprain medic sues OAPs.

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Message 1 - posted by wabbit, Mar 16, 2008

A paramedic who tripped and sprained his ankle whilst attending a suspected heart attack victims home, is planning to sue for damages.

www.mailonsunday.co....

Whatever next, Firefighters seeking damages from the owners of burning buildings cos they've burnt their fingers?...<erm>
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Message 2 - posted by pompomwhiting, Mar 16, 2008

Maybe the Pope is right. Has the litergation culture come about from excessive wealth?
Sorry Wandy. No one awake in Shropshire to discuss with Pom.
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Message 3 - posted by GrumpyOldGit, Mar 16, 2008

Seems fair enough to me. Isn't this just the opposite side of the same coin?

Why should the paramedic have to put up with being injured on someone's property just because they're pensioners?

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Message 4 - posted by wabbit, Mar 16, 2008

Sorry Wandy. No one awake in Shropshire to discuss with Pom.

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<yikes>
SO!
You only wanna talk to me when there's no one else about then?

<laugh>
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Message 5 - posted by VeryTrue, Mar 16, 2008

It's Political Correctness Gone Mad! But my theory fails, because it wasn't a "news" item from the Daily Mail... it was in the Mail on Sunday. I stand corrected.
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Message 6 - posted by wabbit, Mar 16, 2008

Seems fair enough to me. Isn't this just the opposite side of the same coin?

Why should the paramedic have to put up with being injured on someone's property just because they're pensioners?


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Will you say that, if you're ever in need of emergency personnel at your home?


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Message 7 - posted by VeryTrue, Mar 16, 2008


Why should the paramedic have to put up with being injured on someone's property just because they're pensioners?

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Not just pensioners, GOG: one is a great-grandmother, and the other "served with the 5th Royal Enniskillen Dragoon Guards during World War II."

(and before anyone leaps down my throat, I am not deprecating Mr Boardman's war record, for which I have the greatest respect: I am mocking the Mail's inability to report news competently without letting its prejudices show. Would the case have been any more or less ludicrous had Mr Boardman been a conscientious objector in WW2?)
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Message 8 - posted by GrumpyOldGit, Mar 16, 2008

What's that got to do with it? Someone got injured on their property, and if we're going to have the compensation culture that so many are keen on, then it works both ways.

I accept that it's unfortunate, but that's how it works.

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Message 9 - posted by pompomwhiting, Mar 16, 2008

Sorry Wandy. No one awake in Shropshire to discuss with Pom.

<yikes>
SO!
You only wanna talk to me when there's no one else about then?

<laugh>

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Wandy. I soon learned that Shropshire prefer Nottingham threads to mine. I apologise for bringing the Pope into your very serious thread.

Grump. Pom forgives you. Don't know whether the Pope will though!
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Message 10 - posted by GrumpyOldGit, Mar 16, 2008

Once more for clarity ...

Will you say that, if you're ever in need of emergency personnel at your home?

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What's that got to do with it? Someone got injured on their property, and if we're going to have the compensation culture that so many are keen on, then it works both ways.

I accept that it's unfortunate, but that's how it works.


And in reply to VT's comment, that's quite right. If really don't understand why people get "credited" with being grandparent, because as far as I understand it's illegal for them to be actively involved in that happening.
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Message 11 - posted by wabbit, Mar 16, 2008

The 'Mail' probably half-inched from here:

www.thisislondon.co....

Or vice-versa?

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Message 12 - posted by VeryTrue, Mar 16, 2008

No stealing involved: the Mail Group owns the Standard. "It's Political Correctness Gone Mad" is taking over...
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Message 13 - posted by wabbit, Mar 16, 2008

Grumps, 'Emergency personnel' could include Plumbers, Electricians, gas Engineers, what if you called these people to assist you, would you be prepared to risk being sued if they were injured in your home...even by their own negligence?
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Message 14 - posted by VeryTrue, Mar 16, 2008

I think that the point is that you can't avoid "risking being sued" if you want to allow legitimate law suits in those cases where negligence is involved. Surely, the issue is for the courts to take appropriate action in those cases where it clearly involves ambulance-chasing lawyers out for what they can get, by awarding costs against them until they stop pursuing such frivolous cases.

Incidentally, there is no indication in the news story that started this thread that any damages have been or will be awarded against the heroic great-grandparents.
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Message 15 - posted by GrumpyOldGit, Mar 16, 2008

Grumps, 'Emergency personnel' could include Plumbers, Electricians, gas Engineers, what if you called these people to assist you, would you be prepared to risk being sued if they were injured in your home...even by their own negligence?

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As I said, it works both ways. If we want to be able to sue if we get injured then we have to accept that we might get sued.

If it does turn out to be negligence on the part of the paramedic the pensioners might not have to pay.

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Message 16 - posted by pompomwhiting, Mar 16, 2008

As long as lawyers keep rolling in the money does it really matter?

Pom has received the stat letter from the job centre. "50 + and you're looking for a career change"

hmm? The law?
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Message 17 - posted by wabbit, Mar 16, 2008

If it does turn out to be negligence on the part of the paramedic the pensioners might not have to pay.

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And if the medic is unsuccessful in his claim, will we see emergency crews refusing to leave their vehicles for fear of being injured and having no insurance cover?

After all, the ambulance service has made this point crystal clear.
Mr Canning was not covered by the East Midlands Ambulance Service's liability insurance because he was not inside the ambulance at the time.

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Message 18 - posted by pompomwhiting, Mar 16, 2008

I hope so. I wouldn't like to run the risk of ending up in a NHS hospital.

Pom needs to know if it is the person that dials 999 who is culpable so that she can give her nearest and dearest the appropriate advice.
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Message 19 - posted by wabbit, Mar 16, 2008

When meter readers, or any other workers from local authorities attempt to enter peoples homes, should the tenant/owner make these people sign a disclaimer in case of injury?



Remember the woman recently who trapped her fingers in a letterbox as she delivered junk mail?

She tried to sue the homeowner!

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Message 20 - posted by VeryTrue, Mar 16, 2008


Remember the woman recently who trapped her fingers in a letterbox as she delivered junk mail?

She tried to sue the homeowner!

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Another of those fine stories "reported" by the Daily Mail. But how about thinking about it (rather than going into "it's political correctness gone mad" knee-jerk mode). Suppose a homeowner had installed a letterbox in such a way that it caused injury to people delivering things, or failed to fix it when it got broken and became dangerous. You don't think that the homeowner should be held responsible?

It's convenient that the story is dressed up as a junk-mail deliverer: had it been a great-grandparent war-veteran delivering collection envelopes for the poppy appeal, you can be sure that the Daily Mail would have covered the story somewhat differently.
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