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The Dopes on Dope.

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Message 21 - posted by U2426416 - alt id 6, Jul 21, 2007

That's why some addicts die when unable to get their fix? And why even very right wing governments have prescribed morphine?
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Message 22 - posted by GrumpyOldGit, Jul 21, 2007

Knackersknowle,

The body can survive without.<erm>

......stop an addict from using the drug the body can't survive without?


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Yes, Patsy, but I don't think it feels that way IF you're an addict ...
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Message 23 - posted by U3775715 - alt id 1, Jul 21, 2007

If the drug problem were as easy to solve as some suggest then it would have been. But it hasn't.
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Message 24 - posted by GrumpyOldGit, Jul 21, 2007

If the drug problem were as easy to solve as some suggest then it would have been. But it hasn't.

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That's an excellent example of a non-commital statement, Granborough. What are you saying? That we should be relaxing the laws, or that it's too complex an issue to even dare to try?
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Message 25 - posted by somewhatLeezaD, Jul 21, 2007

There's only really one practical solution and that's to legalise everything, remove the thrill of the subversive and the associated criminality that grows up round any form of prohibition, and treat addicts as medical cases rather than criminals. Eventually this would drastically reduce the number of addicts, I'm quite certain. But a brave and probably suicidal political step, so unlikely.
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Message 26 - posted by GrumpyOldGit, Jul 21, 2007

There's only really one practical solution and that's to legalise everything, remove the thrill of the subversive and the associated criminality that grows up round any form of prohibition, and treat addicts as medical cases rather than criminals. Eventually this would drastically reduce the number of addicts, I'm quite certain.

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But a brave and probably suicidal political step, so unlikely.

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I think Labour have shown that they're willing to do the un-popular thing if they think it's right, but believe that such as change could only ever be made immediately after a General Election, to give us time to see the real effects before being reversed by the next Government.
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Message 27 - posted by U7209542 - alt id 7 (all banned), Jul 21, 2007

More people would undestand and support it than might be expected. Few families have not been touched by tragic drug problems affecting parents children neighbours etc in all classes.
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Message 28 - posted by GrumpyOldGit, Jul 21, 2007

More people would undestand and support it than might be expected. Few families have not been touched by tragic drug problems affecting parents children neighbours etc in all classes.

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I would hope so, but that wasn't the impression I got from a BBC Radio Shropshire phone-in, although I admit is was about a year ago.

Some parents were happy to overlook their child's responsibilty for taking the drugs - it was all the Governments fault for allowing them to be available in the first place.
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Message 29 - posted by John of Paddington, Jul 22, 2007

That is the trouble these days grumpy, people will not take resoponsibility for their own actions, even the Government Misisters nolonger field the buck is things go wrong. The misuse of drugs is the resposibility first of the person, second of his 'suport' group, be they parentsor friends and third society for allowing drugs to be available.
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Message 30 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Jul 23, 2007

Any particular drugs ? Drugs can be caffine to cough mixture. Its like classing beer with ethanol and meths.

The MPs are hardly going to say "yeah i was a complete stonner at uni and i loved it, it helped me pass my degree as i was able to go into a deep concentration mode.

Instead its "i took it once a party with a glass of tizer, it was really stupid"

Then running off to the loo to take a bit of snow.

Everyone i know takes something, and why not, they work they pay their way they are respectable members of society, if they want to get off their faces at the weekend and let down their hair then why shouldnt they ? Its perfectly legal to drink yourself to death thats a drug and does more damage to peoples health as well as costing the tax payer millions on policing, Emergency treatment, cleaning up the puke afterwards, drink driving.

When was the last/first time you ever heard of a cannbis related incident ?
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Message 31 - posted by pompomwhiting, Jul 23, 2007

Well said Alex.<ok>
Pom fed up of being told things like "some disabled people need a special parking space so ALL disabled people must have one" Correction, those who get themselves assessed. ASSESSORS - who are they?
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Message 32 - posted by John of Paddington, Jul 23, 2007

4x2, I thought they had banned fags in enclosed places. I gather they have also banned drinking in Public places. Now if you want a pint and a puff you have to pop in and out like the people on a weather house. Cannabis rots the brain, well known medical effect, it means the ten who confessed, plus other that didn't,will not be the sharpest knives in the box. All drugs should be banned and draconian punishment for those found in possession.
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Message 33 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Jul 24, 2007

4x2, I thought they had banned fags in enclosed places. I gather they have also banned drinking in Public places. Now if you want a pint and a puff you have to pop in and out like the people on a weather house.

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Yes, but what has this got to do with drugs or this subject John of Premoddington ?


Cannabis rots the brain, well known medical effect, it means the ten who confessed, plus other that didn't,will not be the sharpest knives in the box. All drugs should be banned and draconian punishment for those found in possession.

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Really ? I didn't know brain rot was a well known medical effect, I know alcohol rots the liver. Anyway, cannabis THC or tetrahydrocannabinol mimics a natural chemical already in the brain, maybe someone needs to read up on the effects/subject before passing such comments.

Its fine to have a "draconian" attitude towards the subject, however it just highlights your ignorance.
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