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Gays here have it easy.

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Message 101 - posted by bigfatprodigalson, Jun 7, 2007



whoops, lost for words. what I meant to post was;

Mike, after your last post, I've just got to ask (before anyone else does) are you just curious then?

Yeah, I'm just curious. I'm generally curious about physical and psychological conditions and their causes. Bit like child sexual abuse. I've been involved in child protection and now have two kids of my own. Like any normal person CSA repulses me but there is a kind of, call it morbid, fascination with what goes on in the mind of an abuser. Theft and that, I can understand, there's financial gain involved. But an abuser, what on earth goes on in their minds? We can say it's sick, and it is, but we need better answers than that if we are to address the problem. Science is about that, I hope. Giving us insights to better resolve the problems of humanity.

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That is a very complex issue flower - sorry - will stop it now.

All levels of sexuality are very complex - be it hetrosexuality, bestiality, lesbianism or peadophilia. Remember the Age of Concent is notional - I agree with it but it is still a rule of thumb at best - be it 16, 18, 21, 14 - just a number. Peadophiles you will find are usually abused themselves - therefore they are not simply "monsters" as the bozo press like to dismiss them - todays victim is tomorrow's abuser so to speak. I don't have any answers in all honesty - guess you could speak to a psychiatrist who has researched it - not someone who just enjoys winding people up
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Message 102 - posted by U2999339, Jun 7, 2007


But on a slightly different tack, anyone any idea what causes it? Some say a 'gene', others a chemical imbalance in the brain or whatever. Others say it's upbringing: dominant mother, weak or non existent father. I'd appreciate people giving their opinion here, especially homosexuals themselves who are arguably in a better position (no pun intended) to know.


I would suggest a bit of self examination is called for here as you use of language and obvious "I have a mate who" suggests you are in denial ???

I am a supporter of the idea that those who are very anti something (yet interested as you are) live in fear that they see such tendencies in themselves - stop fighting the urges - it is 2007 - come out of the closet - and say in a loud manly voice - "I like boys and I am proud to say so and my favourite colour is pink"

What a bizarre post. If I want to be psycho-analysed, I'll go to a shrink, mate! ('Ooh, 'mate', macho term, trying to hide that he's gay!')
I'm not offended by your accusation. For the record, I don't bat for the other side. (Ooh, denial, obviously hiding that he's gay!') I'm not bothered if you think I'm a three headed psychotic squid from Mars ('ooh, use of humour to deflect from the fact he's gay') I just find your post really puzzling.
What's with 'I have a mate who...?' I haven't said that. But yes, I admit to having homo mates. Doesn't make me homo any more than having female friends makes me a woman!
And do you infer I'm 'anti'? Where from for Pete's sake? I've made it perfectly clear I'm not anti homo! So, if you'd care to explain your strange posting, please do.
Needless to say, my question hasn't been answered. I feel like the interviewer of a politician who, when I ask him a straight question, goes 'ah, that's not the question. What the question is, is...' and goes off at a complete tangent! ('Ooh, he's gone on a bit here - insecure, must be gay!')
Look forward to hearing from you, Mr Freud.



Like ABL says - bit over defensive aren't we <laugh> - are you hiding something - or not being honest with yourself <hug>. Your use of the term "homo" is also a little bit grating - try to think of another word - you must be aware that the gay man usually has a creative streak

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Ah, Mr Freud again, still on with the psycho-analysis. Shall I tell you about my childhood?<smiley>
'Homo' is fine. Call me lazy, saves me typing out 'homosexual' time after time! And I don't like 'poof', 'queer', 'faggot', 'shirtlifter', 'bender' etc. I think they're offensive. Are you, er, homosexual, by the way? Fine if you are (obviously!)
Creativity? Absolutely! And a positive advantage in some professions (hairdressing, drama etc).<smiley>
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Message 103 - posted by U2999339, Jun 7, 2007



whoops, lost for words. what I meant to post was;

Mike, after your last post, I've just got to ask (before anyone else does) are you just curious then?

Yeah, I'm just curious. I'm generally curious about physical and psychological conditions and their causes. Bit like child sexual abuse. I've been involved in child protection and now have two kids of my own. Like any normal person CSA repulses me but there is a kind of, call it morbid, fascination with what goes on in the mind of an abuser. Theft and that, I can understand, there's financial gain involved. But an abuser, what on earth goes on in their minds? We can say it's sick, and it is, but we need better answers than that if we are to address the problem. Science is about that, I hope. Giving us insights to better resolve the problems of humanity.


Mike I don't disagree on this above. My last post was meant in jest, you left yrself open, especially as bigfat pointed out with the terms you used

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Yeah, fairy snuff, 69. I wasn't quite sure how to interpret your question, it's so difficult to get nuances and emphases over in print, isn't it? I guessed your meaning and got it wrong!
I stand by the term I use, though, as explained in my post to bigfat. I'm comfortable with it, and will continue to use it. Better than a lot of others (even though, ironically, one of my homo mates himself uses 'poof'!)
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Message 104 - posted by Bazza, Jun 8, 2007

I am a poufter, that as enabled me, by my being to enjoy life.

Had a couple of flings with two real nice blokes, and then I met the man of my life, and I did not like or fancy him ( Aussie). Though after a few months I was madly in love with him.

We have Lived in a few overseas places , an issue that same sex couples, of different nationalities have had to. Now we are settled in OZ.

We have never met any animosity towards us ever, as a same sex couple, anywhere in the world we have been or lived.

Therefore, may I say to those who have negative attitude towards gay/lesbian people, Its not your world, the world belongs to us all.

When you accept that, you may also find happieness in your life, as we have.


Bazza & Baz xx
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Message 105 - posted by FarkaryTwarx, Jun 8, 2007

I knew it wouldn't be long before paedophilia was mentioned.

I find it sad that even today people (usually with a malicious homophobic agenda) always seek to link homosexuality with child abuse.

The fact remains, homosexuals are no more likely to 'fancy' children than heterosexuals. In fact the vast majority of CSA's are actually parents and 'straight' members of the family.

Unfortunately this proves the sort of ignorance gay people continue to face in modern society.

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Message 106 - posted by Bazza, Jun 8, 2007

I think the paedophile label, comes from basic social ignorance.

The assumption being,that you are different to me, therefore you are a pervert.

yet statistically 98% of child abuse, occurs in the home environment. Either by a family member, relative, or someone close to the family.

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Message 107 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Jun 8, 2007

I wana know what Gays are supposed to have easy ?

Not saying that life is hard, life is great, small restrictions on what I couldnt do have been removed to grant equal opportuinities thats about all and that was long over due.

I dont care about the homophobic comments from gay people that married women to fit in and now think every other gay person should do the same becuase they made a mistake and are suffering for it!

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Message 108 - posted by FarkaryTwarx, Jun 8, 2007

Paradoxically, there is also a tendency for the same ignorant people to think all gay people (or lesbians) will automatically fancy them, regardless of whether they're actually attractive.

There are exceptions of course, but gays usually don't go for scruffy, ugly rednecks, especially when they have the pick of 20 or 30 somethings.


I think the paedophile label, comes from basic social ignorance.

The assumption being,that you are different to me, therefore you are a pervert.

yet statistically 98% of child abuse, occurs in the home environment. Either by a family member, relative, or someone close to the family.


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Message 109 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Jun 8, 2007

Yup.

Its a case of self flattery. You must fancy me just becuase im male lol.

I dont see how these numpties think gays can be peadophiles, i mean when was the last time you met a rough shaven muscular child with a hairy chest and a deep voice!

Ive seen the way some dirty old me look at 12 year old girls who are old enough to be their grandad and then they have a cheek to say were perverted peadophiles LMAO!

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Message 110 - posted by Bazza, Jun 8, 2007

I was always amazed that the most ugly hetrosexual and ignorant males that where born, when in or near their company in a public place, assumed you are after them.

There again, when they have been rejected so many times, its to be understood.





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Message 111 - posted by FarkaryTwarx, Jun 8, 2007

Exactly what I would like to know.

We have the same problems and issues that effect everyone else, however we have the added problem of having to suffer the rantings of moronic rednecks and religious bigots.

Contrary to popular homophobic opinion, gay pride events etc. are not intended to convert everyone into homosexuals or to ram our lifestyles down people's throat. There are simply meant to be a fun occassion (as similar Asian and Afro-carribbean festivals are).


I wana know what Gays are supposed to have easy ?


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Message 112 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Jun 8, 2007

"dirty old me" lol... MEN.
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Message 113 - posted by Bazza, Jun 8, 2007

Chris you made a comment earlier in the blog. What is your comment now mate?

"Gays have it easy"!

Irrespective of what age you are, when you show indifference to others, you show igorance to the lives and wellbeing o of others.

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Message 114 - posted by FarkaryTwarx, Jun 8, 2007

We have encountered this, ironically in the so-called gay village in Manchester.

However obnoxious, old, ugly, badly dressed or overweight, straight men always seem to assume you fancy them. Do they think gay people are all deaf, blind and bereft of a sense of smell or what?

I was always amazed that the most ugly hetrosexual and ignorant males that where born, when in or near their company in a public place, assumed you are after them.

There again, when they have been rejected so many times, its to be understood.


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Message 115 - posted by asianboyleeds, Jun 8, 2007

but gays usually don't go for scruffy, ugly rednecks, especially when they have the pick of 20 or 30 somethings.

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but those 20 or 30 somethings dont for for scruffy ugly rednecks either, so your luck's out :P
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Message 116 - posted by asianboyleeds, Jun 8, 2007

However obnoxious, old, ugly, badly dressed or overweight, straight men always seem to assume you fancy them. Do they think gay people are all deaf, blind and bereft of a sense of smell or what?

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i think that stereotype of gay men being more predatory and trying it on with anything that moves, whilst is obviously exaggerated, there is some truth in it I beleive.
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Message 117 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Jun 8, 2007

Yeah its called human nature, all men a predatory, its nothing to do with sexuality.
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Message 118 - posted by FarkaryTwarx, Jun 8, 2007

but gays usually don't go for scruffy, ugly rednecks, especially when they have the pick of 20 or 30 somethings.


but those 20 or 30 somethings dont for for scruffy ugly rednecks either, so your luck's out :P

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Shame, I guess that means you're also on the shelf then? Unless you can find someone who needs a guide dog to assist them across the road.
<laugh>
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Message 119 - posted by asianboyleeds, Jun 8, 2007

i'm 23, there's no need to sound bitter of us younguns :)
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Message 120 - posted by FarkaryTwarx, Jun 8, 2007

The gay men who are predatory are usually the closeted, married ones in my experience. The creepy type who stare at you on trains.
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