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Kill It Cook It Eat It !!

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Message 1 - posted by Rhyme&Reason, Mar 10, 2007

Did anyone see the recent BBC 3 show 'Kill It Cook It Eat It'?

I caught some of the episode with the cow and was left traumatised by what I saw.

I confess right here that I had already stopped eating animals some years ago and that I was already aware that many animals are still conscious following the stunning process BUT all of my previous knowledge had not prepared me for seeing the actual horror involved!

I was so moved that I found myself uncontrollably crying as I stomped up and down in despair trying to work out how on Earth to stop this violence to these beautiful sentient creatures.

I was so moved that I had to write the following:

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THE BILLION

If you'd seen that cow on tele
Looking up to say hello
As they shot a steel bolt in his skull
Then you would surely know

If you'd seen the way he struggled
As the knifeman slit his throat
Hung upside down by tethered legs
Then you'd know how to vote

And when the knifeman finally detached
His frightened severed head
If you'd seen that - perhaps like me
You'd wish that you were dead!

ONE BILLION LOVELY ANIMALS
Are killed right here each year
And most of them are terrified
And PRAYING YOU WILL HEAR!!

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And then of course the saying
'IF NOT YOU - WHO?'
comes to mind.

Government figures show that 1 BILLION animals are killed in Great Britain for food each year! Yes 1,000,000,000,000!!!

Almost 3 MILLION every day! Day in - day out!

2083 every minute! EVERY MINUTE!!! Just in Britain!!

That's a lot of Death. A lot of Violence. A lot of Fear. A lot of Terrified Beautiful Animals.
And all of it completely uneccessary!

Non animal eaters can survive & thrive perfectly well and in fact have considerably less chance of being cut down by the big 3 - heart disease, cancer(some) & stroke.

There are countless examples of veggies who made a quality impact e.g. Einstein, Pythagoras, George Bernard Shaw and even examples of vegetarian world beaters in the sporting world too - Martina Navratilova - 9 times Wimbledon champion, Carl Lewis - double olympic gold medallist, Ruth Heidrich - 3 times Ironman etc.

So that leaves us with just two reasons for eating aninmals - taste & preference.

Now I ask you, are those good reasons to cause pain, suffering & death to 1,000,000,000,000 beautiful animals in Great Britain each year?
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Message 2 - posted by everything2go, Mar 19, 2007

I'm very happy by what I saw on that program. It showed animals being killed humanely, albeit still quite distressing if you've never seen an animal being slaughtered before.
Your maths is very impressive, although i think your figures may be slightly warped, the UK simply does not have enough abattoirs to slaughter 1 billion animals a year. It's true that the UK probably consumes close to a billion a year but most of that is imported. Official figures showed that last year UK abattoirs killed close to 30 million cattle, sheep and pigs, and 900 million poultry. No where near 1,000,000,000,000.
As touching as your poem is, I feel there may be some slight inaccuracies with that too. Did you actually write that? And did you actually watch the same program as me?
"As they shot a steel bolt in his skull" From what I recall they electrocuted the cow, and even went so far as to explain why they don't use a steel bolt anymore, as that was quite clearly inhumane.
I am in no way condoning pain suffering and death to animals, as I would feel very uncomfortable eating meat which had not been treated well. It also doesn't taste as good. But this program was most definitely not about killing some animals for television, it was about getting people to understand what their eating and where its come from. And as its quite unlikely that your poems are going to persuade us all to stop eating meat. Perhaps it's a good thing that a TV program can at least persuade us to care about what we're eating, and that the animal has come to no harm.
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Message 3 - posted by jaqueline, Mar 19, 2007

and that the animal has come to no harm.

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it's just been killed.
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Message 4 - posted by Rhyme&Reason, Mar 22, 2007

I'm very happy by what I saw on that program. It showed animals being killed humanely, albeit still quite distressing if you've never seen an animal being slaughtered before.

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This was the creme de la creme of UK abattoirs so it is interesting that you still recognize it as distressing.
i think your figures may be slightly warped, the UK simply does not have enough abattoirs to slaughter 1 billion animals a year.

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The confusion here appears to be that I am using an american billion which is 1000,000,000 yet I have written it as a UK billion. Apologies for that however my research shows that most people these days mean an American billion when they say a billion.

It's true that the UK probably consumes close to a billion a year but most of that is imported. Official figures showed that last year UK abattoirs killed close to 30 million cattle, sheep and pigs, and 900 million poultry. No where near 1,000,000,000,000.

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These numbers add up closely to a US billion especially if you take into account the 26 million Turkeys, 20 million Ducks and the 1 million Geese also killed in the UK.
As touching as your poem is, I feel there may be some slight inaccuracies with that too. Did you actually write that? And did you actually watch the same program as me? "As they shot a steel bolt in his skull" From what I recall they electrocuted the cow.

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Yes and Yes! I am sure I saw them shoot the cow with the bolt but as you questioned it I trawled the net to find any other comments on the program. I found : "I saw the cow, sheep and pig episode. First the animal is sectioned in a small pen. Then the slaughterman takes hold of the killing device - for a cow it is a gun and for the sheep and pig it is a set on tonges that sends an electrical current through the animals brain.." amongst others, so I stick by what I believe I saw.

And yes I wrote the poem. If you know of a library shelf full of such readymade poems I can use in future please let me know :)
I am in no way condoning pain suffering and death to animals, as I would feel very uncomfortable eating meat which had not been treated well.

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To use your own phrase, I think the idea that an animal which has been shot or electrocuted then had it's throat slit has been well treated, is more than 'slightly warped'!
But this program was most definitely not about killing some animals for television it was about getting people to understand what their eating and where its come from.

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If that were true then why choose the unrepresentative Mettricks abattoir? It is known as an exemplary place which if it smells of anything, it smells of bleach. It is a 'best practice' abattoir where animal welfare is a top priority. It is also small so the slaughtermen don't rush the animals through as they would on the more common production line. Mettricks,they say, is as good as it gets.
As the animal on most people's plate will not have been killed at Mettricks, I would contest that this program, whilst showing the method of kill, did not show most people where it has come from and the more normal hurried and terrifying circumstances of the kill.

And as its quite unlikely that your poems are going to persuade us all to stop eating meat.

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You say the nicest things :)At least it reminded you of what you - at least what you think - you saw, and given your next sentence I see that as a success. After all I did not stop paying to have animals killed for me to eat overnight, it was a gradual process of layer upon layer of information building up in my brain. For some my poem may be the final piece of the puzzle. Who knows?
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Message 5 - posted by U3220267, Mar 22, 2007

Cattle, sheep and pigs etc would become extinct if we didn't eat them.

Nobody keeps them for the fun of it.
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Message 6 - posted by U3220267, Mar 22, 2007

Forgot to mention it but if they aren't meant to be eaten..........why are they made of meat?
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Message 7 - posted by Rhyme&Reason, Mar 22, 2007

Cattle, sheep and pigs etc would become extinct if we didn't eat them.Nobody keeps them for the fun of it.

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Do you honestly think that is a good reason to inflict pain, suffering and death on a billion animals in the uk each year?

Why do you care if they become extinct?

Do you care about them?

If they are going to live a miserable life and then be terrified as they are killed surely it is better that they are not born?
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Message 8 - posted by Rhyme&Reason, Mar 22, 2007

Forgot to mention it but if they aren't meant to be eaten..........why are they made of meat?

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Oh I see Rob! You mean like we humans are eh?
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Message 9 - posted by U3220267, Mar 22, 2007

Because we won't have any meat.

Why do you care if they become extinct

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Message 10 - posted by Rhyme&Reason, Mar 22, 2007

Because we won't have any meat.

Why do you care if they become extinct

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So you don't actually care if they become extinct you just care about yourself. So why dress it up?
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Message 11 - posted by U3220267, Mar 22, 2007

I'm not averse to cannibalism......if there's a good steak going<laugh>
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Message 12 - posted by Rhyme&Reason, Mar 22, 2007

I'm not averse to cannibalism......if there's a good steak going<laugh>

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Ok Rob so we can now see who you are.
NEXT !!
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Message 13 - posted by U3220267, Mar 22, 2007

Where did I dress anything up?

Said it as it is........as I see it!
Because we won't have any meat.

Why do you care if they become extinct
So you don't actually care if they become extinct you just care about yourself. So why dress it up?

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Message 14 - posted by Tommysanstarfish, Mar 22, 2007

Dressed crab is the cruellest...

www.bbc.co.uk/food/g...
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Message 15 - posted by U3220267, Mar 22, 2007

Just had an excellent beef chilli.

You just can't beat it!
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