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Smoking police

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Message 1 - posted by Tony_Wadsworth, Feb 15, 2007

Thousands of council workers are being trained to police England's smoking ban when it comes into force in July.

The Government-funded course, which is costing 29.5 million, is expected to train 1,200 council employees in the next few months, followed by more later.

They will be able to issue on-the-spot fines to people in bars, restaurants and shops who flout the law and even be allowed to film or photograph people suspected of smoking.

What does this say for civil liberties?
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Message 2 - posted by patsy, Feb 15, 2007

Excellent!
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Message 3 - posted by U6196471 - alt id 5, Feb 15, 2007

A very good plan, pity we can't trust publicans.
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Message 4 - posted by Ibstock Panther, Feb 16, 2007

This is just becoming ridiculous. What a waste of money. If you look at Scotland or Ireland as well as pubs in this country that have already banned smoking you will see that there has been little trouble.

Smokers either go outside or to a designated smoking area. Smokers are not all louts and hooligans, most are actually law abiding citizens. Publicans will not risk losing their licences so anyone who does spark up where they shouldn't will be dealt with. Really looking forward to seeing the abuse these people are going to get snooping around the city.

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Message 5 - posted by BasfordBill, Feb 16, 2007

Well, the 'smoke police' are to cost Notts taxpayers 750.000 (initially)

www.thisisnottingham...

I wonder what the actual cost of these 'cops'
will be in the long run?

I'm so relieved that 'real' crime in our city has finally been stamped out completely <whistle> and that now, all our leaders can think of is wasting our money on jobsworths to look for petty offenders to hound and fine.

The QMC's ICU will need to be expanded to cope with the high numbers of 'snoops' being admitted after attempting to issue OTSF's on any alcohol/drug induced footie hooligans lighting up in a pub after the match, especially if their team lost.....<laugh>

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Message 6 - posted by patsy, Feb 16, 2007

So why would anybody get abusive?
if as you say 'smokers are not all 'louts and hooligans' <erm>

posted by Mark-Ibstock
Smokers are not all louts and hooligans, most are actually law abiding citizens.
Really looking forward to seeing the abuse these people are going to get snooping around the city.

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Message 7 - posted by alanamp, Feb 16, 2007

Is it true that the council worker will be armed with a bucket of water . to put the offending ciggie out . Will this increase the water rates as I am a poor pensioner.


yours faithfully ,

Worried Liverpool
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Message 8 - posted by Blackcountrybloke, Feb 16, 2007

Some more hard earned tax payers money being wasted by Labour.
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Message 9 - posted by Junk2Rubbish, Feb 16, 2007

Thousands of council workers are being trained to police England's smoking ban when it comes into force in July.

The Government-funded course, which is costing 29.5 million, is expected to train 1,200 council employees in the next few months, followed by more later.

They will be able to issue on-the-spot fines to people in bars, restaurants and shops who flout the law and even be allowed to film or photograph people suspected of smoking.

What does this say for civil liberties?

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It says civil liberties have been forgotten about along with the fact that the Nazi party was a socialist party.

I never voted for this oppressive NuLabour Mafia.

Sadly, too many were taken in.
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Message 10 - posted by 800lbGorilla, Feb 16, 2007

I certainly hope some of the pathetic little nonentities who will form the anti-smoking snoopers brigade get a good going over. If I see one getting a thumping I will have "seen nothing".
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Message 11 - posted by patsy, Feb 16, 2007

800lbGorilla,
You realy do make it sound as if smokers are a load of thugs! <yikes>
So as well as breaking the anti-smoking law, they will also be guilty of GBH? which by your own admittance you will be condoning.

certainly hope some of the pathetic little nonentities who will form the anti-smoking snoopers brigade get a good going over. If I see one getting a thumping I will have "seen nothing".

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Message 12 - posted by Junk2Rubbish, Feb 19, 2007

No, the thugs are the ones who are using propaganda (in the form of 'cherry-picked' and biased statistical reports) in order to introduce draconian laws and remove civil liberties.

We have a crazy socialist government which thinks it can legislate its way to Utopia.

Nazi Germany: Someone remind me, was it the pesky Jews or the pesky Smokers who were supposed to be the root of all their problems?
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Message 13 - posted by 800lbGorilla, Feb 19, 2007

So as well as breaking the anti-smoking law, they will also be guilty of GBH? which by your own admittance you will be condoning.

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Spot on, I certainly would condone it. We are all capable of extreme action when pushed too far.
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Message 14 - posted by patsy, Feb 19, 2007

800lbGorilla,
You speak for yourself! <erm>

We are all capable of extreme action when pushed too far.

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Message 15 - posted by 800lbGorilla, Feb 19, 2007

But is not forcing your views through against a large minority "extreme action"?
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Message 16 - posted by patsy, Feb 19, 2007

I would have thought that ignoring the views of an even larger majority would be extreme inaction.;)

posted by 800lbGorilla

But is not forcing your views through against a large minority "extreme action"?

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Message 17 - posted by 800lbGorilla, Feb 20, 2007

That is the point, Patsy - smokers do not want to force their habit on others - just to have adequate provision made for them. <smiley>
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Message 18 - posted by U7487816, Feb 20, 2007

That is the point, Patsy - smokers do not want to force their habit on others - just to have adequate provision made for them. <smiley>

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If your not forcing your habit on me, will you tell the smoke that invades my clothes in most pubs, even those with ventilation systems. <steam>
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Message 19 - posted by U5848678, Feb 20, 2007

But is not forcing your views through against a large minority "extreme action"?

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A large minority ha ha, trying to make the cancer stick brigade sound like more than a large majority ha ha. If you blow smoke at me, you won't be condoning brute force, you'll be receiving it. ;)
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Message 20 - posted by 800lbGorilla, Feb 20, 2007

<laugh> WIMP! As I've said before - you couldn't punch your way out of a rice paper bag and intellectually speaking (sorry about the big word - buy a dictionary and look it up, as the old joke goes, if brains were explosives you couldn't blow your hat off! <laugh><laugh>
But is not forcing your views through against a large minority "extreme action"?


A large minority ha ha, trying to make the cancer stick brigade sound like more than a large majority ha ha. If you blow smoke at me, you won't be condoning brute force, you'll be receiving it. ;)

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