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Planet Devon

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Message 1 - posted by JohnCoates, Feb 13, 2007

BBC Devon are launching Planet Devon - a campaign to inform and encourage the listeners to BBC Radio Devon, and the users of BBC Devon On-line about Climate Change, Carbon Emissions, Sustainability etc.
We seek to encourage consideration of lifestyle and actions that might lead to a reduction in carbon emmisions.
I look forward to learning about your opinions, your considerations and of the actions that you are taking in support of the Planet Devon Campaign.
John Coates
BBC Devon
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Message 2 - posted by Sholesa, Feb 13, 2007

Good morning, John (in the middle of the afternoon.)
I think your title might generate some nods, winks, and nudges....
Can you imagine it?
"Earth to Planet Devon....."
No response!
"Earth to Planet Devon....."
No response!
"Earth to Planet Devon..... WAKE UP, BEEB!"<yikes>

And who knows what greater sense of isolation you might give to the Cornish!!!<biggrin>

Just kiddin'!
Sure, anything to make everyone more aware of the environment.
"Devon to Earth, I'm awake! Receiving you strength 1......<biggrin>
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Message 3 - posted by U6196471 - alt id 5, Feb 13, 2007

Sounds like a ludicrously local thing when the problem is not just national but worldwide.

Or will we have to keep it on 24/7 waiting for news that seawalls dykes and meadows have burst and flooded and have the county is up to its elbows in molten Greenland.

Little Justin Leigh will blow an air raid warden's whistle and we shall all be required to run for the high peaks of Dartmoor leaving grandma snoozing in her beach deckchair oblivious that the tide has turned forever and is running in faster than she ever could?
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Message 4 - posted by JohnCoates, Feb 13, 2007

Thanks for this Ernie. This is a matter of personal responsibility because it is individuals who create carbon emissions. I look forward to hearing how you have changed your own actions and added to other people's contribution to Planet Devon.
Cheers
John Coates
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Message 5 - posted by JohnCoates, Feb 13, 2007

Receiving you Sholesa - loud and clear.
Thankfully the Cornish are mounting their own campaign, but later in the year!
Do let us know how, even from your distant location, you will be helping us.
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Message 6 - posted by U6196471 - alt id 5, Feb 13, 2007

We've changed the bulbs to flourescent twirls switched to real ale and turned off 38 gadget transformers and standby switches.Not much we can do about dogs bottom methane but we've checked the OS map and here in Mannamead the risk of flooding is still a decade or so away.
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Message 7 - posted by John of Paddington, Feb 13, 2007

John, do you really believe what the Politicians are saying? Do you believe that the Green tax is to stop 'Global warming' and is not a 'Brown' tax in mufti. This Earth has warmed and cooled many time and more CO2 is put into the air by a volcanic eruption than this Country will do in a centuary. So I've lagged the roof, changed the bulbs, planted a few trees, what more do you expect? Do you agree with the MP for Exeter that we should return to War time rationing.
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Message 8 - posted by JohnCoates, Feb 13, 2007

Well done Ernie. As somebody says - 'Every little helps

John
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Message 9 - posted by JohnCoates, Feb 13, 2007

Hi John
Thankfully it's not just politicians to whom we've been listening. Here in Devon we want to defend our lovely countryside against avoidable changes caused by Climate Change.
There are many ways of looking at the causes of the problems but the worst thing is probabaly to do nothing.
Cheers
John
John, do you really believe what the Politicians are saying? Do you believe that the Green tax is to stop 'Global warming' and is not a 'Brown' tax in mufti. This Earth has warmed and cooled many time and more CO2 is put into the air by a volcanic eruption than this Country will do in a centuary. So I've lagged the roof, changed the bulbs, planted a few trees, what more do you expect? Do you agree with the MP for Exeter that we should return to War time rationing.

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Message 10 - posted by U7457427, Feb 13, 2007

Our planet is surrounded by a blanket of gases which keeps the surface of the earth warm & able to sustain life. This blanket is getting thicker, trapping in heat as we release greenhouse gases by burning fossil fuels for energy. We cut down forests & replace them with agricultural land. This, of course, has been happening particularly since the Industrial Revolution & continues to accelerate.

Scientific research indicates that, because of climate change, we will experience more intense & more frequent extreme weather events. A gradual increase in temperature also has big implications for ecosystems, growing seasons, animals & their habitats plus problems for the economic & social systems which sustain civilised society.

Some changes to the climate are inevitable - even if we stop emitting gases now - the gases we have already released will have a continuing effect. Today's weather is somewhat influenced by hydrocarbons released into the atmosphere arounf 50 years ago. However, we must do everything we can to avoid further changes & to adapt to the new situation we find ourselves in.
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Message 11 - posted by John of Paddington, Feb 13, 2007

John, Global warming in a natural process, one cause could be that the lungs of the Earth, its tropical forests and other woodland is being cleared and burnt. We, in this Country, produce 2% approx of Global CO2, China is building dozens of power station fed with soft coal. The Amazon basin is being defoliated, the forests of Indonesia are being cut and burnt. Tell me, in truth, what this small County can do? Bye the by, why is Cornwal starting later, does it take longer for things to sink in there? I believe this is a politically led 'Hype' to raise more tax and to restrict our freedom of movement and choice.
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Message 12 - posted by JohnCoates, Feb 13, 2007

Thanks Heavitree
By putting a brake on, we won't come to a halt immediately. Unless we apply the brake etc etc
Cheers John
Our planet is surrounded by a blanket of gases which keeps the surface of the earth warm & able to sustain life. This blanket is getting thicker, trapping in heat as we release greenhouse gases by burning fossil fuels for energy. We cut down forests & replace them with agricultural land. This, of course, has been happening particularly since the Industrial Revolution & continues to accelerate.

Scientific research indicates that, because of climate change, we will experience more intense & more frequent extreme weather events. A gradual increase in temperature also has big implications for ecosystems, growing seasons, animals & their habitats plus problems for the economic & social systems which sustain civilised society.

Some changes to the climate are inevitable - even if we stop emitting gases now - the gases we have already released will have a continuing effect. Today's weather is somewhat influenced by hydrocarbons released into the atmosphere arounf 50 years ago. However, we must do everything we can to avoid further changes & to adapt to the new situation we find ourselves in.

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Message 13 - posted by JohnCoates, Feb 13, 2007

Thanks John
Have you not put your finger on it? Why are we chopping down trees, and thus contributing to, in your words, 'a Natural Process'.
Cornwall are catching up rapidly!
Cheers
John
John, Global warming in a natural process, one cause could be that the lungs of the Earth, its tropical forests and other woodland is being cleared and burnt. We, in this Country, produce 2% approx of Global CO2, China is building dozens of power station fed with soft coal. The Amazon basin is being defoliated, the forests of Indonesia are being cut and burnt. Tell me, in truth, what this small County can do? Bye the by, why is Cornwal starting later, does it take longer for things to sink in there? I believe this is a politically led 'Hype' to raise more tax and to restrict our freedom of movement and choice.

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Message 14 - posted by John of Paddington, Feb 13, 2007

As you say John, Why are they destroying the forests, could it be Greed? What can we in Devon do about it apart from not buying tropical hardwood furniture? You don't reply to my comment that this 'Natural Process' roller coaster is being jumped on by Politicans for their own purposes. This talk of a 'Carbon footprint', would it make more sence if the first 't' was not crossed. Please to hear that Cousin Jack is catching up. Cheers John.
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Message 15 - posted by Sholesa, Feb 13, 2007

Receiving you Sholesa - loud and clear.
Thankfully the Cornish are mounting their own campaign, but later in the year!
Do let us know how, even from your distant location, you will be helping us.

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Seriously, John, I say go for it, because it will only be the collective ideas and actions of individuals that will make it happen. And we can all learn from each other.
If you've read my posts you'll know I really am distant, although my roots are in Devon and Cornwall. Here, the climate is far harsher that yours, with max summer temps up to +35 and min winter temps -40 (the temp has not been above -15C for the past 10 days, and we've had 20 inches of snow!) Wife and I own an "sfd" (acronym for single family detached) home, with air conditioning (with air all around us, the most uneconomic type of unit one could find, but built and purchased when times were different). Our heating is a forced air, natural gas furnace, and we have an electronic thermostat to control furnace and air cond.
In winter we set the thermostat to 70F (it's calibrated American) during the day, and 66F at night. In summer we set the a/c to come on at 28 during the day, and "off" at night (because the humidity here is extremely low the daytime heat dissipates rapidly at sundown). I set it to "Heat" only in winter, and "Cool" only in summer, and never use the "auto" feature.
We use energy-saving lights, and I've sealed just about every crack I can find that would let cold air in. When we can afford it, we're going to replace our furnace with a high efficiency model.
In recent years, high density residential units have returned to the scene, because of the high cost of sfd housing, and because high density is more economically managed, and "green." We are in retirement and when we become less active we'll head down the the high density route too.
One of our biggest bugaboos is transportation, and the private automobile reigns supreme (it has to!) At 75,000 population Lethbridge has its own bus service, but, with a service of only three per hour, it does not encourage those who do own cars. Vancouver, Edmonton, and Calgary have LRT (light rapid transit) rail systems, but nothing like London Transport's for coverage or service frequency. We have NO (repeat, NO) long distance passenger rail service in western Canada. A high-speed link between Calgary and Edmonton has been bandied for years, but first, the capital cost would be horrendous. It's 180 miles downtown to downtown, and the existing highway allows for driving most of that non-stop in 3 hours. But when you add the convenience factor at both ends, it would still be faster to drive (and probably cheaper, too!) Currently, there is an hourly non-stop (Greyhound) bus service between Calgary and Edmonton that takes three hours.
On a personal note, all of our family live in Edmonton.... 300 miles from Lethbridge. There are five Greyhoud bus services per day between Lethbridge and Calgary, where we would have to change. The total bus trip from here to Edmonton is a minimum of 8 hours, plus the waiting times, plus the commute at both end, and it costs $90, one-way, EACH. By car, we make it, literally non-stop (including the stretch through Calgary) in less than five hours, at a TOTAL fuel cost of about $30. Add to that we have independent transportation when we're there, and it's not rocket science that public transportation holds little attraction for us!!!
I don't know if that helps you in making comparisons, but as I said before.... only by knowing each other's problems can we get the clearest picture of the magnitude of what we all face.....
.....and any information exchange is better than nothing!
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Message 16 - posted by U6196471 - alt id 5, Feb 13, 2007

I read the Morning News feature report on Ben Bradshaw but also heard him closely questioned on the rationing claim by little Justin Leigh on radio devon. He had plainly said no such thing and the WMN had got a third hand distortion which it extra twisted to suit the anti-government Harmsworth press. Good on Ben and little Justin for setting the record straight.
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Message 17 - posted by U6196471 - alt id 5, Feb 13, 2007

This refers to Jo msg 7.
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Message 18 - posted by U6196471 - alt id 5, Feb 13, 2007

Perhaps the first programme could illustrate how much of our coastal settlements would be swamped by sea level rises of say one five ten fifteen ot ywenty metres. Looe Sidmouth Dawlish Plymouth Barbican and Stonehouse and Exeter St Thomas Gideford etc would all have serious cause for concern.
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Message 19 - posted by JohnCoates, Feb 14, 2007

We 'launched' Planet Devon at a small event in Topsham today. The Devon Manager for the Environment Agency is able to provide a forecast on what will happen to certain areas in Devon given a certain set of Climate incidents. Keep looking on the website www.bbc.co.uk/devon/planetdevon when a series of maps will appear. This will take some time, but I hope it will abswer your question Ernie.
John Coates
Perhaps the first programme could illustrate how much of our coastal settlements would be swamped by sea level rises of say one five ten fifteen ot ywenty metres. Looe Sidmouth Dawlish Plymouth Barbican and Stonehouse and Exeter St Thomas Gideford etc would all have serious cause for concern.

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Message 20 - posted by Sholesa, Feb 14, 2007

It's going to be pretty interesting, for sure!
Certainly worth a bookmark.
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