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Super Casino to Manchester, Large Casino to Leeds

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Message 1 - posted by bigfatprodigalson, Jan 30, 2007

Not being into gambling at all it looks to me that Manchester will gain a 9 carat (Argos syle) asset rather than what I would say should have been its spiritual home - Blackpool.

Think the whole thing is tacky and will be a carbuncle on where ever it is built - apart from Blackpool, where it would have al least been a carbuncle on a carbuncle so to speak.

Manchester may be celebrating this - wonder if they will regret it in a few years time - anything to regenerate its eastern area.

Think a "large" casino is bad enough

Both will be filled with blokes who suit trousers do not match their jackets and Bette Lynch lookalikes on their arms - classy
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Message 2 - posted by Tyke Bhoy, Jan 30, 2007

I suspect the reason the Dome didn't get it is more to do with the questions that would have been asked about why it got it.

Yes Blackpool is the town most resembling Las Vegas so it would have been least out of place there.
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Message 3 - posted by Fothers45, Jan 30, 2007

I suspect the reason the Dome didn't get it is more to do with the questions that would have been asked about why it got it.

Yes Blackpool is the town most resembling Las Vegas so it would have been least out of place there.

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Yeah, I suppose Blackpool resembles Las Vegas in many, many ways! Identical climate. Plush hotels. International cuisine. Service with a smile. Who are you trying to kid?
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Message 4 - posted by U2836684, Jan 30, 2007

Yes Blackpool is the town most resembling Las Vegas so it would have been least out of place there.

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<laugh>
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Message 5 - posted by bigfatprodigalson, Jan 30, 2007

Blackpool is tack personified - then again the place I would least like to visit in the US is Las Vegas - I cannot think of a tackier place
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Message 6 - posted by Vasili_Zaitsev, Jan 30, 2007

Las Vegas is foul, but worth seeing for the sheer ludicrous spectacle of it all
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Message 7 - posted by *RebelBadger*, Jan 30, 2007

Blackpool is tack personified - then again the place I would least like to visit in the US is Las Vegas - I cannot think of a tackier place

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Some parts of Las Vegas are not tacky. The more recently built hotels and casinos are beautiful and it was a pleasure to walk around them. I stayed in the MGM Grand and it was pure class.

Their whole materialistic plastic way of life is obscene though. I couldn't deal with staying there for over 2 weeks as you just crave a bit of peace and quiet.
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Message 8 - posted by bigfatprodigalson, Jan 30, 2007

If Manchester wants to move in that direction then by all means. This will either regenerate that area - or will make the place notorious and a place to avoid - unless you like slot machines - if they were going to install some of those machines where you drop a coin in and it lands on the step with a chance of knocking a lot more coins out when the steps go in I might look on it more favourably

Only goes to show that our "democracy" is as open to lobbying by interest groups as the US - ie gambling, fast food chains, breweries, tobacco and warmongers.

If we are going to import more Americanisms - where's the UK's Porno Valley going to be ? Doncaster ?, Crewe ? Reading ? if so I'm already in training !
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Message 9 - posted by Vasili_Zaitsev, Jan 30, 2007

Some parts of Las Vegas are not tacky. The more recently built hotels and casinos are beautiful and it was a pleasure to walk around them. I stayed in the MGM Grand and it was pure class.

Their whole materialistic plastic way of life is obscene though. I couldn't deal with staying there for over 2 weeks as you just crave a bit of peace and quiet.

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I've been to Vegas 3 times, unfortunately (business for 2 of em) and have stayed in the MGM Grand. I found it a vile place. It was like being trapped in a shopping centre and every time you moved into a different area there was a different overpowering cleaning fluid smell, which meant I went away thinking it reminded me of a giant toilet.

Some nice scenery just outside LV tho - Red Rock Canyon is cool
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Message 10 - posted by bigfatprodigalson, Jan 30, 2007

American malls put me on edge - cant help looking for zombies <laugh>
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Message 11 - posted by bigfatprodigalson, Jan 30, 2007

Besides - awarding the casino to Manchester also gets the govt out of having to pay for the regeneration of the area - bit like awarding City of Culture to Liverpool and Glasgow before it to attract EEC money rather than from UK coffers.

Call me cynical
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Message 12 - posted by thedukeofhunslet, Jan 30, 2007

Good luck to Manchester. They can keep it. Spinning wheels with flashing cherries on only attract idiots.

I enjoy a game of chance. But slot machines are not that. They are designed to take your money more efficiantly then a pick pocket. Good luck to all the mancunians who will soon be addicted to them and for whom the phrase 'beat the system' will soon be their mantra despite never being able to.

It will mean there will be an increase of cheap suit shops in east manchester - because they won't let people in if they're wearing a white tracky and reeboks.

Dispatches on C4 last week foretold all this. How Atlantic city saw an increase in gambling addicts - when they investigated it further they found that people were moving there just so they could be nearer the slots...mad!
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Message 13 - posted by Tyke Bhoy, Jan 30, 2007

Anybody know where they plan to build it? Moss Side?
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Message 14 - posted by bigfatprodigalson, Jan 30, 2007

It is also worth wondering whether house prices will be affested by the devlopement - and whether they will go up or down - I would not want to live near it - would you ?
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Message 15 - posted by rockyvalley, Jan 30, 2007

I hope they do build it in Moss Side as it will cut down on collateral damage. We don't want all those armed gangs to have to travel too far do we?
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Message 16 - posted by *RebelBadger*, Jan 30, 2007

I've been to Vegas 3 times, unfortunately (business for 2 of em) and have stayed in the MGM Grand. I found it a vile place. It was like being trapped in a shopping centre and every time you moved into a different area there was a different overpowering cleaning fluid smell, which meant I went away thinking it reminded me of a giant toilet.

Some nice scenery just outside LV tho - Red Rock Canyon is cool

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Well I guess its a difference of opinion. I certainly didn't find that it smelt of cleaning fluid and I have a very keen sense of smell. I thought it was one of the better hotels there and I would definately go back there. It was clean, beautifully decorated, well laid out and all the staff were really nice.

I agree with you though on the scenery outside the city, it took my breath away.
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Message 17 - posted by Colonel_Mustard_43, Jan 30, 2007

Definately should have been built in Blackpool. Would have made the perfect addition to the already tacky town.
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Message 18 - posted by Vasili_Zaitsev, Jan 30, 2007

i stayed in this place the last time I was there. www.reviewjournal.co...

It was a lot more relaxed than the mega hotels
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Message 19 - posted by seeformiles, Jan 31, 2007

What worries me about this is how they're going to advertise this tack-fest. Gambling (along with drinking, smoking, drugs and sex) are vices (for want of a better word) and don't require any encouragement. I believe in freedom of choice and I'm all for legalising the lot but find the promotion of them, while an advertising agency's dream, pretty sinister as they quite happily sell themselves. There are already bans on cigarette advertising and severe restrictions on when alcohol ads can be shown and their content - but there doesn't appear to be much regulation of gambling promotion (e.g. National Lottery). Having known several problem gamblers, problem drug users, and too many alcoholics to mention - legalise but don't encourage. (I bet the advertising campaign has already been handed to someone like Saatchi......)
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Message 20 - posted by Tyke Bhoy, Jan 31, 2007

Is advertising gambling permitted?

The Lottery is obviously, but the Government have a vested interest in that making money. Bingo is advertised too. But aren't the bookmakers and on-line gamers restricted to sponsoring tv programs (mainly sports) and advertising hoardings at sports events?

I agree though it doesn't really need to be encouraged.
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