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Our Wonderful New Smoking Ban!

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Message 1 - posted by jerseyisdead, Jan 8, 2007

So we have a smoking ban!

How pathetic is it that we have to walk trough clouds of smoke to get in to the new "cleaner environment"?

It will be worse in the summer and eating
‘al fresco’ another joke.

Smoking should be banned in ALL areas where the public have access.
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Message 2 - posted by 800lbGorilla, Jan 8, 2007

However, I suppose it will still be all right for alcohol to be used, resulting in streets covered in vomit, lots of violent assaults, etc.?

You are yet another bigotted, petty despot crackpot! Go away.
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Message 3 - posted by U4357578, Jan 8, 2007

Hmmmmmm. You suppose do you Grill? I didn't see any opinion on alcohol put forward in the opening post. Yet you appear to have worked a couple of things about the person that wrote it. Perhaps you suppose too much.
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Message 4 - posted by Lavey6, Jan 8, 2007

Well said Jonah! Is attack your only attempt at defence, 800lbGorilla? Throw in a bit of name calling as well . . .

I'm delighted smoking is banned in bars & restaurants. No, it's not pleasant to walk through the cloud of smoke, but I'd rather that than sit in it inside all night. It's not perfect, but it's a damn site better!
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Message 5 - posted by Rob, Jan 8, 2007

Just be careful that you don't choke on the BBQ smoke!
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Message 6 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Jan 8, 2007

Just be careful that you don't choke on the BBQ smoke!

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Or the vehicle fumes that you breath in while enjoying a cigarette smoke free meal in the beer garden. lol
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Message 7 - posted by 800lbGorilla, Jan 9, 2007

Jonah - do not be an idiot! Talk sense!
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Message 8 - posted by Lavey6, Jan 9, 2007

Still angry about something Gorilla! Calm down, you're very grumpy about all this! Are you a smoker trying to give up or something?
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Message 9 - posted by U4357578, Jan 9, 2007

Ha! Caught out Grill. Who's the idiot? You for making assumptions about someone or me for pointing out the (very basic) flaw in your assumptions.

Idiot!
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Message 10 - posted by jerseyisdead, Jan 9, 2007

Given that reply I take it you are a smoker?

Well I am fed up of breathing in second hand cigarette smoke put there by those with a selfish attitude.<steam>
That has nothing to do with alcohol. Obviously, I must have written extra lines that only the ‘chosen’ can read.
Perhaps the cigarette smoke is obscuring vision?;)

I do not understand how you can call me a “Crackpot” and “Dictator” just because I have an alternate opinion to you.:(

If we have to go down the road of the petty insult, I give it that you are in fact the bigot
and most definitely irrelevant in a modern society.

Sorry, I will not go away!
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Message 11 - posted by Tamarin, Jan 11, 2007

The smoking ban has made going out much more pleasant for the majority of people - well done those who brought this in
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Message 12 - posted by mickeymay, Jan 15, 2007

Look I think everyone should be entitled to their rights, smokers and non smokers, perhaps if pubs went back to their own public and saloon bars, one could be classed as smokers only and non smokers. And one other thing, you'll never stop the farmers and their morning pint and a fag, out in the country.
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Message 13 - posted by 800lbGorilla, Jan 15, 2007

Ha! Caught out Grill. Who's the idiot? You for making assumptions about someone or me for pointing out the (very basic) flaw in your assumptions.

Idiot!

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False assumptions? I don't think so, Jonah.

The reason people such as I respond to these attacks on smokers' rights as we do is not only because attack is the best means of defence but that any reasoned approach gets nowhere with the anti-smoking brigade, who only seem interested in getting all their own way with any sort of compromise being unthinkable.

I do wish these people would realise that smokers are actually a pretty reasonable lot on the whole - we don't object to smoking bans where provision of smoking areas is impractical e.g. theatres, cinemas and we are quite happy to have specific areas set aside for smokers and non-smokers so that the latter do not have to put up with something they do not like and smokers can smoke if they wish.

Why is the Brigade so against compromise?
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Message 14 - posted by U4357578, Jan 15, 2007

Grill. You got caught out, admit it.
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Message 15 - posted by U6196471 - alt id 5, Jan 15, 2007

Having just spent three weeks ski-ing in smoke free Aspen I have no doubt that it is a good idea. All the bars cafes and restaurants were thriving.
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Message 16 - posted by jerseyisdead, Jan 16, 2007

Really, it is quite simple...
This discussion is about smoking and not alcohol, car fumes or anything else.


Smoking kills.
Passive smoking kills (Roy Castle, anybody?)

Smokers have no right to effectively commit manslaughter.
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Message 17 - posted by U5848678, Jan 16, 2007

The car fumes analogy will never work unless all smokers do not drive.

You smokers all know it's slowly killing you but you have no right to slowly kill others too and you all know that secretly you make that new years resolution which lasts a whole two hours.

Think of the money you'll save to buy more alcohol. :)
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Message 18 - posted by Lavey6, Jan 16, 2007

Wish people would stop comparing smoking to drinking. Nobody ever said smoking caused violence, etc. I'm pretty sure when it was decided to approve the ban, it wasn't listed in the reasons to do so either. I'm not condoning excessive alcohol consumption by any means, but it's a separate issue. And what's with all smokers whinging on about the "working man's pub?". If all you smokers are so fond of them how come none of you know if there are any. Is this just another straw you're trying to clutch?
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Message 19 - posted by Tettie-Hat, Jan 16, 2007

Wish people would stop comparing smoking to drinking. Nobody ever said smoking caused violence, etc.

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It might cause violence, if you deprive the smokers of nicotine <laugh>
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Message 20 - posted by Lizziedripping, Jan 16, 2007

I'm all for the state protecting me from smokers who smoke in public places that I have no choice about frequenting but I resent them taking the power from me to choose what privately owned cafe, bar etc I may want to frequent. But then the government want people to smoke don't they. Good money earner.
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