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Do you have unruly students in your" Village"

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Message 1 - posted by BroadgateBee, Dec 5, 2006

We live adjacent to a student campus! UPPs sorry, now called a "Student Village" sounds idyllic doesn't it.<laugh>
The Planning Committees who allowed it to happen should be made to move in and endure the unbridaled noise.<steam>
One of the same Planning Committees have passed plans for a new Hotel within the Sacred University Grounds but the Uninversity would not allow it's Village to be built within its Sacred Grounds.<doh> Double standards I think.
We would like to hear from anyone with similar problems.
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Message 2 - posted by quietDocBaxter, Dec 5, 2006

I live in the Lenton area, which might just as well be called a Student Village, there are so many of them (on the drive where I live, there are over 150 houses and the majority are student homes.) The biggest problem here is rubbish; some of the houses, and there are up to six students a house, are awash with rubbish. That is no exaggeration; the Council and/or University have monitored the area and for a while things improved, but are slipping back again. Noise is an intermittent problem and late-night drunkenness is quite common. It sounds churlish, but roll on the Christmas hols when they've all gone. I don't think any of them have any inclination to be a "proper" member of this community, and treat it solely as a stopping-off point - I'm pretty sure they'll be unable to go back to their own, or rather parents', homes and behave as they do here. If I sound grumpy about all this, it's because I am - you have to live in a community like this is now to appreciate how the students dominate it and sadly not for the betterment of the community generally.
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Message 3 - posted by Lizziedripping, Dec 5, 2006

It's all about numbers. My daughter, when aged 12, started to complain about the convenient comprehensive school she was attending. After a lot of hassle with the LEA we got her transferred to a different school of her choosing. The Headmaster of the new school told us that he was sceptical, as in his experience "once a school hopper always a school hopper". After 3 weeks New Headmaster and daughter were content. Headmaster admitted he was wrong and daughter declared "you know Mum there are yobs at this school but not nearly so many"!
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Message 4 - posted by BroadgateBee, Dec 5, 2006

To all Local Council Tax Payers,
Surely local councillors should be relating to the requests of the people who made them councillors in the first place, not power mad, squabbling, indecisive puppets whose strings appear to be pulled by outside influences. They complain about outside pressure being applied upon making decisions, if these decisions are important to the area concerned it is the local residents who have to live with them forever as the councillors may not be re-elected. So councillors stand up for your electors and show it can make sense.
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Message 5 - posted by Gemma,Hucknall, Dec 5, 2006

Hi,
I am working on a programme for BBC Radio Nottingham about student life in Nottinghamshire. I am looking for a resident in Lenton to keep an audio diary about what it's really like living near students. This would just involve recording your thoughts and feelings over the next few days before the end of term, the 15th of December. Full training and instructions will be given.
If anyone would like to record an audio diary over the next 10 days please email gemma.hibbard@bbc.co.uk or call 0115 9021878.
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Message 6 - posted by Lizziedripping, Dec 5, 2006

Hi Gemma. For a monment there I thought you may be offering the students a course on how to be respectable. Do they really need training on how to record their thoughts and feelings? Isn't that covered at primary school? Sarcastic Pompom. I'd have been a good teacher in my day.
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Message 7 - posted by Gemma,Hucknall, Dec 5, 2006

Hi Pompom,
I meant training for the resident on how to use the machine. Any takers please get in touch.
Thank you,
Gemma
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Message 8 - posted by Lizziedripping, Dec 5, 2006

Apologies. My mis interpretation. Stupid Pompom. I'll stay in Shropshire in future! Or Telford to be more specific "where the delinquents come from" I was once told. Don't seem to have much binge drinking though.
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Message 9 - posted by BeestonBod, Dec 6, 2006

We live adjacent to a student campus! UPPs sorry, now called a "Student Village" sounds idyllic doesn't it.<laugh>
The Planning Committees who allowed it to happen should be made to move in and endure the unbridaled noise.<steam>
One of the same Planning Committees have passed plans for a new Hotel within the Sacred University Grounds but the Uninversity would not allow it's Village to be built within its Sacred Grounds.<doh> Double standards I think.
We would like to hear from anyone with similar problems.

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You are not alone, BroadgateBee. Putting over 2,000 students in such a confined area is neither good for them nor their neighbours :-( . Particularly when all the people who dumped them here like Broxtowe and City Planning Committees and Nottingham University don't give a toss now they've arrived.
Some people may have problems with sudents living in private houses, but they haven't got huge delivery and refuse lorries clogging up their roads during the day, and taxis all night (plus students cars that are supposed to be parked on/in the lovely Broadgate Park Village)<steam>.
And of course there is the noise at any time of the night when they've been "enjoying themselves" and fall off the bus and shout their way back home.
Even UPP or Jarvis or whatever they are called now don't seem to be able to control their tenants.
This was a nice place to live, once.

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Message 11 - posted by Slimtone, Dec 7, 2006

As you will have noted, I live in the Lenton area but I'm afraid I couldn't undertake to do an audio diary as I uldn't trust myself to be objective or even non-abusive!
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Message 12 - posted by Ramslad, Dec 7, 2006

Slim, that doesn't sound like the old you, I'm sure you will be tolorance personified - after all you've put up with being a Red Dog all these years<laugh>

Hope you are okay Mate<ok>
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Message 13 - posted by Slimtone, Dec 7, 2006

Hin Rams - I'm back but only for a while. How are you? Don't take any notice of the sour comments - it's 'cos they lost on Tues. and I aint recovered yet.
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Message 14 - posted by Gemma,Hucknall, Dec 7, 2006

If you live in Lenton and would be able to keep an audio diary about having students living near you, please contact Gemma at BBC Radio Nottingham.
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Message 15 - posted by masterActivist, Dec 7, 2006

There are local Councillors that spend a large amount of their time dealing with student issues and relating to requests of those people who elect them in the first place. In Nottingham City a Housing Restraint Area Policy was passed unanimously by Full Council. This was challenged by a developer and a Planning Inspector made a ruling that completely weakened this policy. This was followed by a new policy called Building Balanced Communities; again this was passed unanimously and indeed strengthened by amendments at a Full Council meeting. Yet again this has been challenged by two large development companies. The Council has instructed a Barrister in order to represent them in Court.

On two occasions Nottingham City Council has led delegations with residents to London to lobby Ministers for changes to the law to enable them to tackle this very issue. A Student Strategy Manager has been employed and funding set aside in the 06/07 budget for extra work planned. Extra street cleaning and graffiti removal teams have also been resourced specifically for areas with high numbers of Houses in Multiple Occupation.

A one day conference is being led by Nottingham City Council in February, inviting Councillors from Towns and Cities across the Country with large Universities in order for Councillors in those areas to form a National Lobby to share good practice, new ideas and ways forward. The aim is also to press the Government from all directions to face up to the challenge faced by communities.

Frankly, all Governments are afraid to interfere in the private housing market, but they do need to listen to local communities on this issue.

P.S. The Planning Inspector was also rude to local residents during the Planning Appeal.
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Message 16 - posted by BeestonBod, Dec 7, 2006

Thanks for your information, but all this stuff about Nottingham City Council is no help at all if you live in the Broxtowe Borough Council area, and next to Broadgate Park <steam>!

Even if Broxtowe Planners shared your views, and had actually wanted to restrict this dreadful development (which I really doubt) the Council has missed chance after chance to do anything at all to help their Council Tax payers :-(.

They couldn't have done a better job to encourage the "Broadgate Student Village" if they'd been paid for it!

I don't suppose they'll bother to attend the conference in February either.
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Message 17 - posted by BroadgateBee, Dec 8, 2006

About the lack of control UPP have over the few rowdy, unpleasant, out of control so called
neighbours in UPPs rented accommodation, if it was a small private landlord the Councils would drop on them like a ton of bricks and make them conform to the regulations, as they should do, but because this company is large they are frightened to death to do anything about it.

You get the same spin-doctor answers every time you complain ether to the UPPS or the Council. The local live in wardens must ether live somewhere else or be stone deaf. They know who are responsible so why don't they throw them out for breaking their own rental agreement.

Local residents are asked to police the noise by reporting it to UPPS, please read the planning agreement they signed up to, its called 106 Agreement, supposed to be very strict about causing noise to local residents, if the City and Broxtowe Councils enforced the 106 agreement then UPPS would have to close down the Broadgate Campus thus upsetting all the people who are making money out of this situation.

Both planning Committees new what would happen and applauded the University for what they had done, obviously the University was rubbing it's hands because it had made lots of money and vanquished its responsibilities to UPPS.

People have moved away from areas like Dunkirk because of the same problems yet our Councils have not learned from their mistakes.

Like the high rise flats of the 60s the people responsible should be made to live next to these so called village and endure what we have to put up with every night.
Thanks for your information, but all this stuff about Nottingham City Council is no help at all if you live in the Broxtowe Borough Council area, and next to Broadgate Park <steam>!

Even if Broxtowe Planners shared your views, and had actually wanted to restrict this dreadful development (which I really doubt) the Council has missed chance after chance to do anything at all to help their Council Tax payers :-(.

They couldn't have done a better job to encourage the "Broadgate Student Village" if they'd been paid for it!

I don't suppose they'll bother to attend the conference in February either.

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Message 18 - posted by BroadgateBee, Dec 8, 2006

Another bitter pill for you.:( It is reported in the Evening Post tonight that catering firm Sodexho Sevices Group Ltd have submitted a licence application to the city council for a " CAFE BISTRO" in Turnpike Lane,Broadgate Student Village.
There is already an offlicence and bar in the same area,why not go the whole hog and move Beeston High Road into the Village, at least this might stop the litter from chip papers ,plastic trays, suppermarket trollys, and bottles left on the route back to the Village.
We live adjacent to a student campus! UPPs sorry, now called a "Student Village" sounds idyllic doesn't it.<laugh>
The Planning Committees who allowed it to happen should be made to move in and endure the unbridaled noise.<steam>
One of the same Planning Committees have passed plans for a new Hotel within the Sacred University Grounds but the Uninversity would not allow it's Village to be built within its Sacred Grounds.<doh> Double standards I think.
We would like to hear from anyone with similar problems.


You are not alone, BroadgateBee. Putting over 2,000 students in such a confined area is neither good for them nor their neighbours :-( . Particularly when all the people who dumped them here like Broxtowe and City Planning Committees and Nottingham University don't give a toss now they've arrived.
Some people may have problems with sudents living in private houses, but they haven't got huge delivery and refuse lorries clogging up their roads during the day, and taxis all night (plus students cars that are supposed to be parked on/in the lovely Broadgate Park Village)<steam>.
And of course there is the noise at any time of the night when they've been "enjoying themselves" and fall off the bus and shout their way back home.
Even UPP or Jarvis or whatever they are called now don't seem to be able to control their tenants.
This was a nice place to live, once.


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Message 19 - posted by BroadgateBee, Dec 11, 2006

Nottingham City Council could have refused the planning application for Broadgate but why should they?
The problems encounted would be by Beeston residents not city residents,I think this is called passing the buck.
Unfortunately it is the Broxtowe Tax Payers that have to pay for the City Planners mistakes.
Now we have the problem of the proposed Hotel,the Village should have been built on the other side of Woodside Road and the hotel built near the conference centre it will serve.
Thanks for your information, but all this stuff about Nottingham City Council is no help at all if you live in the Broxtowe Borough Council area, and next to Broadgate Park <steam>!

Even if Broxtowe Planners shared your views, and had actually wanted to restrict this dreadful development (which I really doubt) the Council has missed chance after chance to do anything at all to help their Council Tax payers :-(.

They couldn't have done a better job to encourage the "Broadgate Student Village" if they'd been paid for it!

I don't suppose they'll bother to attend the conference in February either.

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Message 20, Dec 11, 2006

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