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London's streets slick with blood

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Message 101 - posted by Thump666, Jan 2, 2008



27 kids die in LOndon alone in 2007.

2 more die at the beginning of this year - one in London - one in Liecester.

Where will this craziness end ?

Do we have to go to bed in armoured houses ?

Car jackings ?

House siezures ?






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Message 102 - posted by londoncallingyou, Jan 4, 2008

blimey he does go on a bit..
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Message 103 - posted by gayedevice, Jan 5, 2008

act like monkeys, look like monkeys,put em in cages and feed em bananas..it's all they know.
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Message 104 - posted by The Tower Bridge Fox, Jan 5, 2008

I think you need to watch less TV ,and get out a bit more,
Criminals are very few and far between.
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Message 105 - posted by nonemoreblack, Jan 5, 2008

Perhaps a sense of perspective here. 27 murders of young people in London in one year are too many. One would be too many. But London's population is c7 million, more than some entire countries. With due respect to those tragically bereaved (and the murderers must get life, no less), London is, by international standards, a relatively safe city. Add to that the fact that it's now a very international city, with every race under the sun, I think it does rather well, especially in comparison with USA cities and those of other countries.
When the two Leeds fans were brutally murdered in Istanbul, local reports suggested that the police seemed so nonchalant about it because a couple of knife murders in Istanbul on a weekend was so commonplace it was hardly newsworthy.
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Message 106 - posted by beerboy6, Jan 5, 2008

Perhaps a sense of perspective here. 27 murders of young people in London in one year are too many.

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Maybe another sense of perspective would be, its 5th Jan and we have already had 2 young people murdered in London so far.

Won't be long before last years tally is equalled I'm thinking.
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Message 107 - posted by Thump666, Jan 7, 2008

blimey he does go on a bit..

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You thick or something. This is not good. This is not a good trend at all.
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Message 108 - posted by NewCastleIndianaUSA, Jan 21, 2008

Hi. I've recently been listening to 'world' news via podcasts. And last night and today I heard one that really irked me.Victoria Derbyshire. Victoria's program from January 21, 2008

As someone that lives in USAmerica, I am shocked at what I heard on these two shows.

1. It sounds like everyone that calls in has either been mugged or knows someone close that has been. I have never had anything stolen, never been mugged/assaulted, or my home broken into. The most I can ever recall was someone broke out my neighbor's car window one night, some 9 years ago or so.

2. Police take reports and investigate. They do not protect. They might, on the best of days, deter something; perhaps if you're standing next to them.

3. Protection. One of the callers said he had his plumber's hammer as protection. I recall a scene from the movie The Untouchables where Sean Connery says something about bringing a knife to a gunfight. Seems to me a hammer is a poor choice of self-defense weapons.

I know that people in England think it barbaric in some instance, but we have the ability to carry firearms to protect ourselves, family, friends from violent, potentially-fatal attacks. Not to carry out crime against others, but to STOP the threat of violence against the innocent. I feel much safer knowing that I at times have TWO guns and a knife on me, when my wife and three kids and I are out and about.

Don't you agree that thugs on the street, that KNOW their potential victims are armed such as I am, think twice about attacking me/us? Both my wife and I could be armed, and are at times. It's not a cowboy thing, it's a life vs. death thing.

We ate the other day at a place where a (common citizen/non-police) lady was dining with her husband, and she had a full-sized handgun on her belt (in a holster). No one batted an eye. And, she didn't attack anyone, commit a crime,.... just readied herself in case something were to happen.

Okay, can Londoners (and visitors) carry pepper spray (OC), tasers, stun guns at least?
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Message 109 - posted by nonemoreblack, Jan 21, 2008



I know that people in England think it barbaric in some instance, but we have the ability to carry firearms to protect ourselves, family, friends from violent, potentially-fatal attacks. Not to carry out crime against others, but to STOP the threat of violence against the innocent. I feel much safer knowing that I at times have TWO guns and a knife on me, when my wife and three kids and I are out and about.

Don't you agree that thugs on the street, that KNOW their potential victims are armed such as I am, think twice about attacking me/us? Both my wife and I could be armed, and are at times. It's not a cowboy thing, it's a life vs. death thing.


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But what is appropriate in the USA isn't necessarily appropriate in the UK and vice versa. There is a cultural difference here. In England gun laws are very strict, meaning that only the gangland underworld tend to have them. It is unheard of here for a burglar to carry a gun, and rare for them to be armed at all, meaning a lower form of defence is necessary.
And the gun laws contribute to the fact that, despite media headlines, gun crime, including murder, in the UK is statistically far behind other countries.
I admire the USA in many ways. Te get ahead, win at all costs attitude means the USA is far ahead of the UK in sporting achievement, and richer financially. Many products we take for granted were invented in the USA. But, big but, I feel very safe here and that's important to me.
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