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Our govt. want G.P's to do surgical produres?

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Message 1 - posted by Broseleypipes, Oct 15, 2006

Or more. Apparently some surgeries do minor ops.already. Would the govt. consider opening up the Cottage Hospitals that have suitable facilities before wasting money on revamping G.P.'s premises? Broseleypipes apendicsless and tonsilsless courtesy of G P back in the 60's!
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Message 2 - posted by lysis, Oct 16, 2006

You are so right. My Mum had her appendix remove by her GP on the kitchen table when she was 12. 77 years later she died suddenly. Need I say more.
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Message 3 - posted by Ghostlyfemale, Oct 16, 2006

my GP already carries out minor procedures, and very good she is as well. <ok>
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Message 4 - posted by lysis, Oct 18, 2006

When did an "operation" become a "procedure"?
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Message 5 - posted by Lizziedripping, Oct 18, 2006

From my experience as a scrub nurse. No, not a scubber! Operations did proceed in an orderly fashion. Counted the swabs in and counted them out. Most of the time!
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Message 6 - posted by U5209345, Oct 18, 2006

Good Afternoon everyone

I think it is a good idea for GPs to carry out minor surgical roles - it would lessen the burden on hospitals and travelling time for patients - not to mention a lot of patients would feel happier with a doctor they know and can see as and when. This procedure is carried out a lot in Spain and Italy very well (chemists are also much more involved in patient care).

The only trouble I can foresee is getting GPs to actually do it - they don't seem to want to do more than they have to at the moment. We have lost our 24 hour cover because the GPs can earn an unbelievable amount per hour working for a centralised emergency medical system than they can for covering for their own patients.
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Message 7 - posted by Lizziedripping, Oct 18, 2006

Hi there Astro,
We've met over at Woody's. Welcome to Shropshire. I agree. A new breed of G.P's needs to come to the fore. Trouble is the hard shell of respect that was formed pre NHS and for some glory years post 1948,takes some cracking. I finally demonstrated with my feet having lost confidence in my G.P.. My new one knows me not. I don't bother him, so he doesn't bother me. However, my vulnerable husband who requires medical treatment and apathetic grown up children will not follow me. Until G.P's can feel the financial benifit to do a good service we are stumped.Just hope the Govt. don't waste too much of our money doing up their surgeries!
Pom Pom having a happy day of chat in Shropshire.<smiley>
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Message 8 - posted by U5209345, Oct 18, 2006

pompom, I don't believe that the government always throwing money at things is the answer. Comptetition is the answer. The trouble, I feel, is that too many people get paid regardless of how useless they are. If GPs want respect they have to accept that, like the rest of us, they have to earn it.

I'm lucky in that my GP is great and I wouldn't change GPs for anything but trying to get to see her is a nightmare - those damned receptionists!!

I know what you mean about spouses and offspring - I changed from my original GP to my present one but my hubby and my son just can't be bothered and their GP is nicknamed 'Dr Death'!!!
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Message 9 - posted by Lizziedripping, Oct 18, 2006

Astro. Do so agree. I posted a discussion a while back about Tea Ladies. I had my husband's G.P. receptionists in mind. Do they really need highly paid miserable receptionists I'm sure the Tea lady would do the job at half the cost iemoney and G.P. reputation to boot. (where did I get that expression from? - Lysis!) <whistle>
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Message 10 - posted by U5209345, Oct 18, 2006

Agreed on that pompom. Someone, years ago, once referred to medical receptionists as gatekeepers for GPs and I think they took that phrase to heart. Talk about 'it's a great job but the patients spoil it'. Trying to get an appointment is like running the gauntlet on Gladiators: is this appointment necessary, no just thought I'd sit up here for an hour and catch every illness in the place, have people sneeze and cough all over me.

We shall have to think of a cunning plan to put it alright (preferably to suit us) ;-)
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Message 11 - posted by Ghostlyfemale, Oct 18, 2006

OOO I tell ya theres one up our surgery that would actually make you ill looking at her. With the miserble face on her, if you weren't ill when you went in, you will be you leave!

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Message 12 - posted by U6196471 - alt id 5, Oct 18, 2006

Better to have the fiddly bits still tended to by the discreet and careful genito-urinary chaps.And you are less likely to meet them in your corner boozer.
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Message 13 - posted by U5209345, Oct 18, 2006

Hey, you're a funny guy


Better to have the fiddly bits still tended to by the discreet and careful genito-urinary chaps.And you are less likely to meet them in your corner boozer.

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Message 14 - posted by John of Paddington, Oct 19, 2006

G.P.s alway did surgery in the local cottage hospital, I had a hernia done in one by my local G.P. and a very good job it was. Then along comes Blair(the NHS is safe in my hands) and starts closing the local hospital if favour of new Privately built bigger central ones(they are poorly designed and can not cope). Now he finds the waiting lists he promised to reduce are getting longer, so its back to the 'old days', but where are the local hospitals with operating facilities now?
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Message 15 - posted by Lizziedripping, Oct 19, 2006

Good Morning John,
Wellington Cottage hospital G.P. unit closed 1989. One of the axed hospitals in Shropshire to make way for the dynamic new Princess Royal Hospital for Telford. I think sensible people new that the PRH wasn't going to succeed as they could not open it without using the staff and patients of those closed hospitals and staff from the other major hospital in the County, Royal Shrewsbury. They were ages building up the A/E dept., surgical and paediatrics units and now they have decided that they can't afford them and perhaps they'd best go back to Shrewsbury!!!
The Cottage was opened as a museum /store for ambulance service I believe until it was restored to local authority run Day Centre for respite. Maybe it will revert to 24 hr care again one day! Have you any news of lost Community Service?
Pompom must get down to this Wycliffe Ward closure topic.
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Message 16 - posted by pompomwhiting, Dec 5, 2007

About time to. Get the G.P's back to doing a proper job instead of being spokespersons for the government. All women want is an opportunity not to have an unwanted pregnancy while pandering to their partner's sexual urges. Will have much more time for the important activities of life.

Pom looking forward to seeing the addition of drug induced abortion clinics at all the G.P. surgeries. Perhaps they should be run on the same day as the male sterilisation clinic.
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Message 17 - posted by Mr_Secretary230, Dec 5, 2007

Pom, my old Docs did a male op on Saturday afternoons. the trouble was the more I thought about it, the more my eyes watered and i never did get it done.
A pity realy as it was not just cheap, it was a real snip....<laugh>


Sec230
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Message 18 - posted by pompomwhiting, Dec 5, 2007

Morning Dave. Mr Pom would never have considered the snip which is just as well as he is married to a woman who wanted to populate the world!

Pom thinks it is a shame that more menapausal women can't be employed to satisfy the young studs. Oh alright! You men can impregnate until eternity. Well done.
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