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The truly good things about Plymouth.

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Message 1 - posted by U5980963, Oct 5, 2006

Not the oversold and hackneyed controversial claims but the genuinely great features of one of Britain's historic communities.This is not about the pretence of style culture or fine shops and restaurants.Lets see if we can agree on a selection of unchallengeable gold stars.


The best natural harbour in Europe.

A city set at the focus of natural food resources,farms fruit cheese fruit fish and more.

The fantastic hinterland of Dartmoor.

Sailing as good as anywhere including the Solent.

A good ferry link to France and Spain.

The Royal Albert Bridge.

The National Marine Aquarium.

The Citadel and Hoe Promenade.Bits of the Barbican.
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Message 2 - posted by U4409815, Oct 6, 2006

The best natural harbour in Europe.

A city set at the focus of natural food resources,farms fruit cheese fruit fish and more.

Sailing as good as anywhere including the Solent.


1/ Apart from Falmouth harbour
2/ Apart from Truro (Truro having some Georgian/Victorian character to entice people - Plymouth being a 50-60s concrete and pebble dash mausoleum)
3/Apart from falmouth Harbour/Carrick Roads (Also alot prettier than the Plymouth end of the Tamar)
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Message 3 - posted by jofphater, Oct 6, 2006

Its a shame the british have to constntly knock what they have. Plymouth is not the pretiest of cities, but it is a great city in a great location, Exeter will always be my favorite, bieng born there, but there is nothing wrong with plymouth, an sure the great whingers of this country will disagree!!
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Message 4 - posted by Enoch_P (3), Oct 6, 2006

Smelly, too many speed cameras, hard to find somewhere to park, same old same old shops, very little local produce.

Ugliest new building in the world, as you drive in to Plymouth it looks like the ruined church is trying to fly.

The sad thing is all town centres are becoming the same no character, even Launceston is loosing the market town feel.
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Message 5 - posted by skipster2k2, Oct 6, 2006

Architecturally and in terms of town planning I think Plymouth has been a bit 'directionless' since it was flattened by the Luftwaffe it has never really recovered from that and has lacked the character that other cities with older structures have (such as exeter).

However I really like it down here I moved here from Bristol about 10 years ago and I dont know many other cities where you can get out to such great countryside as easily as you can in Plymouth.

The locals are a mostly nice bunch apart from the scallys that like to beat each other up but you get that in any city, I feel safe walking around plymouth even down notoriuos bits like union st at night, I have never felt threatened.

I actually quite like the city centre as it is its nice being away from traffic I dont like the look of the new mall though looks like a architecture students coursework where they have tried to show off wiith as many different styles as possible, i like to refer to it as architecturely confused :-)
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Message 6 - posted by Enoch_P (2), Oct 6, 2006

The truly good things about Plymouth, is its in Devon.
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Message 7 - posted by jofphater, Oct 6, 2006

this is typical of the british, negative!! no pride in their towns, no pride in themselves!
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Message 8 - posted by 1950sman, Oct 6, 2006

The fifties/sixties buildings in Plymouth are some of the best in the UK, if not the world. Buildings such as the Pearl Assurance House, Dingles (minus the extensions), TK Maxx, NatWest, Royal Bank of Scotland, Market, and the Civic Centre, are just a few of the outstanding and unusual examples of their time in Plymouth. Architects such as Thomas Tait and Giles Gilbert Scott were behind these buildings (which are not concrete, but Portland and Ham Stone), and Plymouth is the only place in the UK where so many oustanding examples exist in such a large area. We must be proud of this - studies have been comissioned into these buildings, and european architects are paying great attention to Plymouth's 1950s architecture. If we are clever, we could sell Plymouth on this alone.
I can understand why drake circus has been described as an 'insult'. It goes against the beauty that is Plymouth.
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Message 9 - posted by skipster2k2, Oct 6, 2006

I have to agree I think dingles looks great with its flying terraces, I also like the exterior of the market looks like a giant woodlice, and thecivic centre with the wing type structure on the roof is very 'thunderbirds' they all just need to have a bit of a spruce up really.
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Message 10 - posted by U5980963, Oct 6, 2006

Most of the remaining Foulston architecture.
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Message 11 - posted by 1950sman, Oct 6, 2006

English Heratige have the landscaping outside the Civic Centre in a feature about outstanding post-war architecture,and they have even offered to make all of the city centre a grade 2 listed conservation area (needless to say, the council refused).
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Message 12 - posted by U5980963, Oct 6, 2006

The city makes a passing good job of maintaining its share of Mount Edgecumbe Park.
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Message 13 - posted by Enoch_P (2), Oct 6, 2006

this is typical of the british, negative!! no pride in their towns, no pride in themselves!

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You have twice posted negatives remarks stating everyone is negative, could it be u thatz negative?

Lead by example and say something interesting, shame you chose this thread, better still practice what you preach and stop posting negative comments.
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Message 14 - posted by U5980963, Oct 6, 2006

This thread is not about the undoubted vast amount of horrid ugly tat but the good stuff. Pride in rubbish and mediocrity is a sad delusion.We do not have to be proud of anything but we need to maintain our self-esteem.Back to the thread subject please.
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Message 15 - posted by U5980963, Oct 9, 2006

The Herald have upped the ante and started a campaign to find out what makes Plymouth 'great'. The suggest the 'lido' the theatre and the Pavilions.Well..........
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Message 16 - posted by johnharrison, Oct 10, 2006

Want an English city with great countryside on your doorstep? Well try Preston and just about every other city in the north of England.
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Message 17 - posted by skipster2k2, Oct 11, 2006

Yeah but its full of northerners ;-)

Talking of the Evening Herald, their office is a pretty cool building, shame its built in such a location that its hardly visible.
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Message 18 - posted by U5980963, Oct 11, 2006

Never very good at planning at Plymouth Council.
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Message 19 - posted by 1950sman, Nov 4, 2006

"Horrid ugly tat"

Just ask English Heratige. Even Kevin McCloud and David Mackay have acknowledged the Post War buildings in Plymouth. Perhaps my last post was a little hyperbolic, and my opinion may seem deluded, but having researched the 1943 Plan, consequent architecture, and its context within its situation and time, we do have some 1940s/1950s buildings whose importance and value are actually quite great, even within the architecture of the rest of the country.
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Message 20 - posted by U6532874, Nov 7, 2006

I like where it is.
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