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Should Jamie Oliver Shut Up?

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Message 1 - posted by FarkaryTwarx, Oct 4, 2006

In light of remarks by Boris Johnson, is it time that these big-mouth celebrities pipe down and stop bossing us around?

Although people should be eating healthier and providing healthy meals for their kids, I don't think anyone, least of all some multi-millionaire celebrity chef has any business telling us what to eat.
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Message 2 - posted by Bazza, Oct 4, 2006

Could it be that he became a millionaire, because he brought to attention, what poor quality food people eat?
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Message 3 - posted by pixiemeat, Oct 4, 2006

fairplay that he made people aware of unhealthy foods!

but i still find him annoying!

i feel bad on the dinnerladies! its not their fault kids are getting fatter!


think of the dinnerladies, people!!
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Message 4 - posted by Blackcountrybloke, Oct 4, 2006

Should Jamie Oliver Shut Up?

YES.
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Message 6 - posted by W.L.Warrior, Oct 4, 2006

Yes

His cheeky, chirpy, cockney, wide boy, shop at Sainsbugs image gets on my wick.

Mrs Warrior fancies him too which makes him doubly irritating.
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Message 7 - posted by charmOffensive, Oct 4, 2006

YES

Celebs are our capitalist dictators, media channels perpetuate this.
Fair play to the women who stood up to this nanny-state neo-fascism.

However, why can't any of the interviewers actually say to Jamie:-

"what business is it of yours?"

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Message 8 - posted by FarkaryTwarx, Oct 4, 2006



However, why can't any of the interviewers actually say to Jamie:-

"what business is it of yours?"


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Exactly my point. I don't remember electing Jamie Oliver to the role of national busy-body? So what if kids want to eat chips? So what if people eat so much they get morbidly obese? It's their body to do with as they wish. If they want to weigh 50 stones and get carried in and out of bed on a harness let them.
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Message 9 - posted by W.L.Warrior, Oct 4, 2006

YES

Celebs are our capitalist dictators, media channels perpetuate this.
Fair play to the women who stood up to this nanny-state neo-fascism.

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So I guess a Jade Goody workout video isnt high on you xmas list then?
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Message 10 - posted by FatPeace - A Promise to Heather, Oct 4, 2006

I'm glad someone's finally told him exactly what many right-thinking people in the UK have been thinking for a long time. Like most self-appointed 'lifestyle' experts he's an irritating, sanctimonious phoney. I can't stand Mockneys anyway, far less when one thinks that waddling round in fat suits deliberately perpetuating hatred and ridicule of bigger people in order to court publicity and further 'inflate' his own oversized ego is somehow witty or clever.

Of course he wouldn't have achieved anything like the fame and popularity for his evangelical anti-obesity crusade had he not been indulged all the way by an intellectually and creatively bankrupt New Labour government whose policy sheet reads like the comment pages of a tabloid newspaper.

Ultimately someone's lost sight of the priorities somewhere along the line. From what you read in the newspapers now you'd think that giving your kids Turkey Twizzlers for tea is up there with paedophilia and should be punished every bit as harshly. Weight has been an acceptable criteria for refusing the adoption of children for years. Even good ol' Auntie's got in on the act - two years after the scaremongering 'Fat Nation' campaign, BBC messageboards are crammed with users stating in all seriousness that bigger people must be sterilised or have their children removed by force; headline-grabbing stories from the Government talk of compulsory weigh-ins at school, higher income taxes, denial of healthcare and even measures to 'force' fat folk to use the stairs at work.

Ultimately in a world where the immense and conflicting pressures exerted on the mental health of us all - especially on children and teenagers - by the competitive society is finally being recognised, what is worse - a few pudgy kids (and it really isn't reaching the epidemic proportions screamed by the headlines) or a mire of stress, mental illness, eating disorders, bullying, depression and even ultimately suicide that faces those who don't 'measure up'? Should the Government and doctors really be lining up to tell kids that they're all too fat when they're just repeating the same message churned out ad infinitum for many years by girlie magazines, FHM and various TV shows?

Ultimately I'm sick and tired of the condemnation and snobbery now being directed at everyone who doesn't live the fashionable, Islington trendy, lentil-eating health-fad obsessed New Labour approved lifestyle. We are all different; we all have different priorities and believe it or not some of us will never be 9 stone however much that upsets the Government, lifestyle media or Jamie Oliver. People go on about British culture; well we're losing a vital part of it day by day - the right to be oneself without being nannied, pressurised, moralised to or pigeonholed.

Worryingly I increasingly find myself having a lot of time for these loose cannon free-thinking Tory firebrand politicians. It's a sad state of affairs when Boris Johnson and Ann Widdecombe are the closest thing we have to the voice of common sense in British politics.
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Message 11 - posted by W.L.Warrior, Oct 4, 2006

I guess you dont want a Jade Goody work video for xmas either then Rich.
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Message 12 - posted by FatPeace - A Promise to Heather, Oct 4, 2006

Nope. Or a Jamie Oliver cookbook for that matter. I suspect I'm probably off Gillian McKeith and Rosemary Conley's Xmas card lists too... lol
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Message 13 - posted by funnyBracken, Oct 4, 2006

I wish I'd said that. Is there any way I can vote for you? <smiley>
I'm glad someone's finally told him exactly what many right-thinking people in the UK have been thinking for a long time. Like most self-appointed 'lifestyle' experts he's an irritating, sanctimonious phoney. I can't stand Mockneys anyway, far less when one thinks that waddling round in fat suits deliberately perpetuating hatred and ridicule of bigger people in order to court publicity and further 'inflate' his own oversized ego is somehow witty or clever.

Of course he wouldn't have achieved anything like the fame and popularity for his evangelical anti-obesity crusade had he not been indulged all the way by an intellectually and creatively bankrupt New Labour government whose policy sheet reads like the comment pages of a tabloid newspaper.

Ultimately someone's lost sight of the priorities somewhere along the line. From what you read in the newspapers now you'd think that giving your kids Turkey Twizzlers for tea is up there with paedophilia and should be punished every bit as harshly. Weight has been an acceptable criteria for refusing the adoption of children for years. Even good ol' Auntie's got in on the act - two years after the scaremongering 'Fat Nation' campaign, BBC messageboards are crammed with users stating in all seriousness that bigger people must be sterilised or have their children removed by force; headline-grabbing stories from the Government talk of compulsory weigh-ins at school, higher income taxes, denial of healthcare and even measures to 'force' fat folk to use the stairs at work.

Ultimately in a world where the immense and conflicting pressures exerted on the mental health of us all - especially on children and teenagers - by the competitive society is finally being recognised, what is worse - a few pudgy kids (and it really isn't reaching the epidemic proportions screamed by the headlines) or a mire of stress, mental illness, eating disorders, bullying, depression and even ultimately suicide that faces those who don't 'measure up'? Should the Government and doctors really be lining up to tell kids that they're all too fat when they're just repeating the same message churned out ad infinitum for many years by girlie magazines, FHM and various TV shows?

Ultimately I'm sick and tired of the condemnation and snobbery now being directed at everyone who doesn't live the fashionable, Islington trendy, lentil-eating health-fad obsessed New Labour approved lifestyle. We are all different; we all have different priorities and believe it or not some of us will never be 9 stone however much that upsets the Government, lifestyle media or Jamie Oliver. People go on about British culture; well we're losing a vital part of it day by day - the right to be oneself without being nannied, pressurised, moralised to or pigeonholed.

Worryingly I increasingly find myself having a lot of time for these loose cannon free-thinking Tory firebrand politicians. It's a sad state of affairs when Boris Johnson and Ann Widdecombe are the closest thing we have to the voice of common sense in British politics.

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Message 14 - posted by FarkaryTwarx, Oct 4, 2006

Rich_Edwards79, how eloquently put!
I am about the correct weight for my height, I eat well and excerise. However it really gets my goat to see the appalling attitude of people like Mr Oliver and the press constantly demonising fat people. As you say, why must people conform to the image perpetuated by skinny perma-tanned celebrities? Have they not thought that some people are happy being fat and perhaps aren't as obsessed with their appearance as Jamie Oliver and his ilk?
Good for them I say. Eat, drink and wear whatever you damn well like and b*ll*cks to everyone else.
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Message 15 - posted by Researcher 2922573, Oct 4, 2006

No body ever does a jewish cook book !
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Message 16 - posted by Researcher 2922573, Oct 4, 2006

I like those fried potato and onion cakes but have forgotten what they are called.
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Message 17 - posted by FatPeace - A Promise to Heather, Oct 4, 2006

FunnyBracken, it's not the first time someone's suggested that I go into politics, but to be honest my snout isn't long enough to reach the bottom of that trough and a directorship with a privatised utility company doesn't appeal to me. If I ever did I'd run as an inependent because although I'm broadly in support of Green objectives, I can't imagaine my views on the 'obesity epidemic' would go down too well with a load of lycra-clad muesli-eating pro-biotic types unfortunately.

And I think the Lib Dems destroyed any chance of government when they kicked Charles Kennedy out - despite his well-documented problems, he was probably one of the most genuine, trustworthy and dignified politicians the UK has seen in a long time. He came across as a true nice guy rather than a snake made to look nice by the spin doctors (Blair / Cameron).

FarkaryTwarx (v. cool name by the way!) I think that if the government spent as much time actually running the country (which to be honest they've made a complete hash of to date) as they do moralising at us and sticking their noses into what goes on behind the closed doors of individual citizens, the UK would be one of the best-run nations on earth.

As it is we have billions spent on an almost universally hated war, rampant house price inflation which only seems to benefit greedy speculators, obscene energy bills, a collapsing NHS swamped by constant initiatives which promise much and deliver little, crime rates which by most measures are out of control, an education system which teaches kids how to jump through hoops to pass exams, and a general lack of respect, a shallow consumer culture and a distain for genuine wisdom and compassion...

...and all they care about is reducing the numbers of fat people by any means necessary.

I really do despair for society some days.

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Message 18 - posted by bigfatprodigalson, Oct 4, 2006

come on - you dont want a nation looking like its had mass immigration from Texas do you wobbling about everywhere and smelling funny
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Message 19 - posted by Speedo, Oct 4, 2006

What surprises me is that being fat is now right up there with smoking,alcoholism,drug abuse etc (all self-inflicted, no self-control) - and no-one mentions the fundamental difference.
You can stop smoking and boozing completely: might be tough but if you can do it, end of problem.
But you can't just stop eating and therefore it's hard for every individual to get it right all the time.
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Message 20 - posted by Researcher 2922573, Oct 4, 2006

Rob there someone talking about you on here !<biggrin>
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