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What should Plymouth do to make it better?

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Message 1 - posted by skipster2k2, Apr 3, 2006

Rather than the usual moaning about what other people are trying to do to make Plymouth better, this is a board for your suggestions on what you think would make it better. No doubt it will all end up with a negative spin though! <erm>

For example I think that the glazing should be replaced in Charles Cross church so that it is more obvious as a memorial and not just a derelict building.
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Message 2 - posted by Kim, Apr 3, 2006

I was told last year that Charles Church is going to have a visitor centre next to it and a walkway from there to the Barbican, demolishing Staples. That would be great. I think once the shopping centre is complete attention should be turned to The Hoe, more restaurants and cafes in that area are needed. One of our friends commented recently that he has travelled around the world with the Navy but Plymouth must have one the finest waterfronts he has seen - lets make more of it!

Skipster, lets see how long this threat remains positive - not long I fear!
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Message 3 - posted by skipster2k2, Apr 3, 2006

Hi Kim

I think that idea was put foward in the mackay vision but he did say that it was unlikely that the god awful staples building would be knocked down anytime soon as it is so new, Bah Ive gone negative already! :-)I agree that there needs to be more to draw people towards the hoe but it needs to be done in a sensitive way so as not to remove the character of the place. Another idea I thought could be good was that rather than leaving the Lido empty over the winter I wouldnt have thought it would be that difficult to erect a seating area and you could have plays down there. With the sound as a backdrop that would be awesome, although the weather might cause a few problems!
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Message 4 - posted by U2448401, Apr 3, 2006

Glaze what remains of Old Town Street and the Eastern ends of Cornwall and New George Streets.

Gut the interior of the Pannier Market.Use the space for a top quality market for the best of local meat fish cheese bakery and floral produce. Alternatively built a stylish new market in Armada Way and use the unusual 60s interior of the pannier market as a shell for a performance venue.

Get some decent buses trams or new suburban light trains. Create a Congestion Charge zone enclosing the area within Stonehoue Bridge, Milehouse,Sungates,the Embankment and Laira Bridge.

Get a new team of Urban Planners.

Stop overselling the woeful tourist sites until they have been brought up to standard.Learn the lessons of the Dome,Mayflower Centre and the Lido.

Preserve the important waterside sites like Sutton Harbour and Mill Bay before they become amorphous gated marinas.

Lift the Dispersal Area status so visitors and new residents stop thinking the public areas are unsafe.
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Message 5 - posted by skipster2k2, Apr 4, 2006

Like your pannier market idea guz who actually owns it is it the council? Would be ashame to tear the entire building down from the outside from a distance it looks really cools like with its ridged roof but inside and up close it does look rubbish and needs updating.
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Message 6 - posted by U2448401, Apr 5, 2006

Better parking at the railway station?
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Message 7 - posted by skipster2k2, Apr 6, 2006

Moving the railway station altogether its rubbish where it is, mind you only about 5 mins from my house so cant moan to much :-)
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Message 8 - posted by skipster2k2, Apr 7, 2006

How about an enormous see through cover to keep the rain out :-(
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Message 9 - posted by U3508276 - alt id 4, Apr 7, 2006

It could do with somewhere really smart to drink or eat.
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Message 10 - posted by U2379384 - alt id 3, Apr 8, 2006

Got cajoled to the bar and restaurant under the big new hotel on the 'International Business Park' near B&Q.Much hyped but not up to it.I agree the city could do with a smart cool hotel with a really smart bar.Got wined and dined in the St David's hotel in Cardiff Bay last week.Why not something like that here?
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Message 11 - posted by jimbogreen, Apr 8, 2006

oh for gods sake.

I really believe you and jannermaid just love complaining, I really do.

Please move somewhere else. PLEASE!
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Message 12 - posted by skipster2k2, Apr 9, 2006

Has anyone been to that african restuarant, I cant remeber what its called. on Notte Street thats really nice. Really relaxed atmosphere and the food was amazing a bit like indian food but more fruity. yum!
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Message 13 - posted by U2448401, Apr 9, 2006

Which one?I thought there was a sort of west indian place.
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Message 14 - posted by U2448401, Apr 9, 2006

Thought someone was asking for suggested improvements which presumably involves saying what we'd like and need and sadly there will sometimes be comparisons with the present.

Plymouth is beginning to provide a few surprises eg that Japanese place Yukisan. The jury's out on the Moroccan place.

The general problem is that the city hasn't quite crossed the threshold which pulls really good traders and restauranteurs. We're certainly closer than we've been in a long time.

Perhaps when the architects realise that vast acreages of toughened glass brushed steel and downlighters is not the only formula we will get some better buildings too.

We go out at least three nights a week looking for good food drink and entertainment.We are always delighted if we can find something which is better than Plymouth norm.

Has anyone used the new Barbican Kitchen for an everyday lunch yet?
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Message 15 - posted by U3508276 - alt id 4, Apr 9, 2006

Now who's moaning for no reason? This thread seems fairly upbeat. From what I read of the redevelopment thread it would seem that no one including MacKay doubts that one of the old problems which hasn't gone altogether yet is that Plymouth people tolerated 'mediocrity' for too long.Now that contributors are coming up with positive suggestions you're upset about that as well.
oh for gods sake.

I really believe you and jannermaid just love complaining, I really do.

Please move somewhere else. PLEASE!

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Message 16 - posted by skipster2k2, Apr 9, 2006

Err the big yellow fronted one, I think they do west indian food too. I will try and tack down the name.

Which one?I thought there was a sort of west indian place.

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Message 17 - posted by harveyshideout, Apr 15, 2006

my recomdations to improving Plymouth,

build higher, and move families back into the centre,
have some quality bakers on mutley and in town,
remove those gry bunker style buildings like Dingles and replace them with nicer stone buildings that have personality,
create a Plymouth Boxwars,
do something with Drakes Circus,
and have that food fair at least three times per year.

www.boxwars.co.uk
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Message 18 - posted by U3508276 - alt id 4, Apr 15, 2006

The bunker style buildings like Dingles and most of Royal Parade/Armada Way are faced with Portland stone as used in major quality urban work especially London from the Great Fire onward.Nothing wrong with it unless you mistakenly believe that it's concrete.

Plymouth is still doing high rise very badly.There are already many hundreds of families in and around the immediate centre.But the centre has no good schools or shops....yet.

The developers and council say they are doing a lot with Drake Circus. Lets hope it works........the proof of the pudding....

The food fair was a treat for those who've never been to a decent market but marketing razzamatazz with a team of TV chefs doesn't give us somewhere to buy any of the fantastic local produce originating round here but only available in other towns and cities. Things are looking up, slightly, now that the farmers' market is fortnightly but why can't it be weekly or even daily?
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Message 19 - posted by U3775715 - alt id 1, Apr 15, 2006

There's a lot going on but what does it amount to?
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Message 20 - posted by harveyshideout, Apr 16, 2006

yes, Dingles may be made from Portland Stone but the building is still awful and looks like a bunker
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