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Take me to the gay bar?

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Message 2001 - posted by Spike, Feb 22, 2008


I supose that Homosexuals are inferior in number compared to the Heterosexuals

Plenty of Homosexuals out there Do hate Heterosexuals!

These too are facts but they do not stop me interacting with my gay friends and work colleagues! The thing is Spike, everyone else on this board seems to interact with people of the other sexual persuation and have no problem with it but you. I take it you have still never met a tolorant Hetero?

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HI ClubSmed. Nice to hear from you again.

I have now met ONE heterosexual who sees me as an equal - the first one ever. However I wouldn't really describe him as heterosexual in his attitude, behaviour and so on. But he's the only one in 33+ years of living and I don't see that exactly increasing.
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Message 2002 - posted by Spike, Feb 22, 2008


OK. I'll rephrase my question. Why would any heterosexual, in this case a married couple like yourselves, have the need to go into a gay bar?


I have already given examples of why this situation might arise and you know it Spike!
I go out with work mates who are gay, I also work at the same place as my wife. There for if I am out with a group from work with my wife and the majority of the party (who may be gay) want to go to Canal Street then does this mean that I can not join them?

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Hi again.

You misunderstood what i said slightly, probably becuase I worded it badly. I didn't mean the situation you describe. Instead what I meant in this case is why a heterosexual couple (or heterosexuals in general) would go into a gay bar apart from sisister reasons.
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Message 2003 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Feb 22, 2008


HI ClubSmed. Nice to hear from you again.

I have now met ONE heterosexual who sees me as an equal - the first one ever. However I wouldn't really describe him as heterosexual in his attitude, behaviour and so on. But he's the only one in 33+ years of living and I don't see that exactly increasing.

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WOW. You see I was the other way round, I never met any other gay people until i was in my mid 20s, had more straight friends that accepted me as I was.

Do you see that it could just be your perception that heterosexuals dislike you and not the other way round? I know some dont like gays, but most do.
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Message 2004 - posted by U3220267, Feb 22, 2008

Probably for the same reasons that Gays go into your everyday pubs.

Can't see anything 'Sinister' about that!

Instead what I meant in this case is why a heterosexual couple (or heterosexuals in general) would go into a gay bar apart from sisister reasons.

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Message 2005 - posted by Spike, Feb 23, 2008


HI ClubSmed. Nice to hear from you again.

I have now met ONE heterosexual who sees me as an equal - the first one ever. However I wouldn't really describe him as heterosexual in his attitude, behaviour and so on. But he's the only one in 33+ years of living and I don't see that exactly increasing.


WOW. You see I was the other way round, I never met any other gay people until i was in my mid 20s, had more straight friends that accepted me as I was.

Do you see that it could just be your perception that heterosexuals dislike you and not the other way round? I know some dont like gays, but most do.

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We all have different experiences Alexander but when mine are negative every time then you can understand my point of view, or at least see why I have this point of view.
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Message 2006 - posted by Spike, Feb 23, 2008

Probably for the same reasons that Gays go into your everyday pubs.

Can't see anything 'Sinister' about that!

Instead what I meant in this case is why a heterosexual couple (or heterosexuals in general) would go into a gay bar apart from sisister reasons.

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Yes but homosexuals behave in such a way as not to result in hassle due to heterosexuals not liking us whereas heterosexuals appear in our spaces to hassle and disrespect us, hence my use of the word sinister. These spaces exist becuase we are not accepted outside of our venues but heterosexuals see it as fair game to appear in those spaces to have a go at us nonetheless.
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Message 2007 - posted by ClubSmed, Feb 27, 2008


OK. I'll rephrase my question. Why would any heterosexual, in this case a married couple like yourselves, have the need to go into a gay bar?


I have already given examples of why this situation might arise and you know it Spike!
I go out with work mates who are gay, I also work at the same place as my wife. There for if I am out with a group from work with my wife and the majority of the party (who may be gay) want to go to Canal Street then does this mean that I can not join them?


Hi again.

You misunderstood what i said slightly, probably becuase I worded it badly. I didn't mean the situation you describe. Instead what I meant in this case is why a heterosexual couple (or heterosexuals in general) would go into a gay bar apart from sisister reasons.

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Surely my example explains a situation where both Heterosexual couples (and heterosexuals in general) would go into a gay bar for reasons other than sinister ones doesn't it?
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Message 2008 - posted by Spike, Feb 27, 2008

Yes but it's rather rare though because, for example, how often do you see one gay lad followed by a trail of fag-hags? far too often and that's part of the problem as well.

It saddened me that there seemed to be a higher than usual quota of hen parties when I was in the Village this last weekend. More unwanted tourists me thinks.

However, my point remains why would heterosexuals want to go there for no reason at all other than for sinister reasons? After all, why would you go with your wife to the Village on your own?
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Message 2009 - posted by ClubSmed, Feb 27, 2008

What do you mean why would they, I have already given you the scenario that leads to me going into the village most of the time. Is that not credible enough for you? Does my reason seem sinister?
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Message 2010 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Feb 27, 2008

Where do you suggest people with mixed sexualities go for a night out then spike ?

Should they be sepperated into their respective groups ?
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Message 2011 - posted by Spike, Feb 28, 2008

What do you mean why would they, I have already given you the scenario that leads to me going into the village most of the time. Is that not credible enough for you? Does my reason seem sinister?

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No. I'm talking about why heterosexual couples (and groups of heterosexuals) would elect to go into a gay bar rather than the millions of other bars Manchester, and everywhere, has to offer. I'm not talking in this instance, about you and your wife going with those gays that you know but about if you and her decided to go there for no specific reason. Gay bars were set up as a safe place for us to go because we don't have that ability anywhere else so if you get loads of heterosexuals in these places then that safe space is no longer there is it. We don't have anywhere else to go to be comfortable etc, just the Village and the scene so a laod of heterosexuals appearing takes away that safe place doesn't it.
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Message 2012 - posted by Spike, Feb 28, 2008

Where do you suggest people with mixed sexualities go for a night out then spike ?

Should they be sepperated into their respective groups ?

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No. I'm talking about heterosexuals entering gay venues for no reason other than ebcuase they can, and then go on to engage in public displays of affection and so on and so on.
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Message 2013 - posted by ClubSmed, Feb 28, 2008

No. I'm talking about why heterosexual couples (and groups of heterosexuals) would elect to go into a gay bar rather than the millions of other bars Manchester, and everywhere, has to offer. I'm not talking in this instance, about you and your wife going with those gays that you know but about if you and her decided to go there for no specific reason. Gay bars were set up as a safe place for us to go because we don't have that ability anywhere else so if you get loads of heterosexuals in these places then that safe space is no longer there is it. We don't have anywhere else to go to be comfortable etc, just the Village and the scene so a laod of heterosexuals appearing takes away that safe place doesn't it.

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If anyone goes anywhere then it is usually for a reason, in the case of bars it is usually the atmosphere and/or people. As for it making it a non safe place, surely that only happens if they are making trouble?
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Message 2014 - posted by Spike, Feb 28, 2008

Not at all. You can get a venue which suddenly becomes invaded by heterosexuals and even if they aren't being openly homophobic the place becomes not a safe space for us to be.

I accept that people go to specific places for things like atmosphere but I go to places where I know I will be safe and around my own kind, if you like. Mercifully there are a few places remaining where I can still do that here in Manchester.
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