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Take me to the gay bar?

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Message 141 - posted by a_new_leaf, Jul 27, 2006

No you are just a tard who thinks all straits are meatheads.

get over your predjudices, you are just as bad, if not as embarrassing, as any group of meatheads.
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Message 142 - posted by Ramslad, Jul 27, 2006

Spike, isn't it always the case that the minority who cause trouble for those people they consider "different" to themselves give the mojority a bad name. Surely in the same way as there are straight "meatheads" there must be a gay equivalent who dislike straight people - this does not tar everyone with the same brush.

I've no problems with gays drinking in any pubs/clubs that I may be in, and although the situation has not arisen would like to think that I would be accepted in a gay bar should i decide to go in one
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Message 143 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Jul 27, 2006

Im on the fence on this, i cant decide one way or another and can see both sides of the story. All my friends are straight and i was the only gay guy. But depends on what mood im in dictated where i went clubbing.

I like mixed clubs, where you know most people are gay friendly and you can take your straight friends but i dont feel as though you could snog your boyfriend on the dance floor without it being a huge issue to some people, but most are so off there heads they dont really care and have a good night dancing anyway.

Ive seen more trouble in predominatley straight clubs than anywhere else, i guess alot of people go out looking to get laid or to fight. But i think thats just people that cant handle there drink.

I do however feel 100% safe in a predominatley gay club and you just cant get that friendly atmosphere anywhere else, i have seen a few straight people in gay clubs and im not bothered by them atall, if they are not bothered by me, but you can just completely relax, not have to think if i chat to this bloke is he gonna thump me or be friendly, but its the people that go that make a place what it is.

Some of the clubs i been to, you know where you stick to the floor and worry that someone will stab you in the toilet for looking at them let alone what they would do if they found out you were gay lol..

I have been attacked in a straight pub before becuase someone knew i was la homosexual and there mates thought i was an easy target... they were so wrong but thats another story.

I ask why people would want to go to a gay club anyway, they always say its becuase of the music, gay people know how to party, atmospehere etc, and i agree, but i do wonder if they realise that gay people make clubs gay, if they stop going or are forced out, it will just turn into another normal commercial everyday club and there are plenty of those about.

Kind of like clothed people at a nudist colony.

I honestly dont think you can have both without one side or another being upset by each other, its just a hard fact of life.
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Message 144 - posted by Spike, Jul 27, 2006

i agree with a lot of what you say 4L3X. I would never feel safe anywhere other than a gay venue.

Also, it is a known fact that gay venues are the safest becuase gays don't cause trouble, only hets cause trouble when they go there. Also, the reason you see police vans all over our city centres is because the hets fight each other regardless of whether they get what they want (ie laid) and intimidate everyone with their noises, mating/breeding rituals (such as the catcalling between groups of men and groups of nearly naked women) and their behaviour. I am so glad my sexual orientation takes me away from that.

As for mixed clubs, they are not safe spaces for gays to be. They are caleld "mixed" because they want the pink pound but they are just the same as any other non gay club.
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Message 145 - posted by grum_back_seat_driver, Jul 27, 2006

iAlso, it is a known fact that gay venues are the safest becuase gays don't cause trouble, only hets cause trouble when they go there

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Rubbish.

Rub-ish.

I used to go to a gay club in cornwall with gay and straight people and the only trouble I ever saw was from some idiot I vaguely know who is gay.

Do you know what he did - pretended he was straight so he could start on the gay lads who weren't interested in him. The fact that he was a big meathead builder really takes the biscuit.

<doh>

You are so hardline spike that I doubt many people will take you seriously.
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Message 146, Jul 27, 2006

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Message 147 - posted by merak, Jul 27, 2006

i agree with a lot of what you say 4L3X. I would never feel safe anywhere other than a gay venue.

Also, it is a known fact that gay venues are the safest becuase gays don't cause trouble, only hets cause trouble when they go there. Also, the reason you see police vans all over our city centres is because the hets fight each other regardless of whether they get what they want (ie laid) and intimidate everyone with their noises, mating/breeding rituals (such as the catcalling between groups of men and groups of nearly naked women) and their behaviour. I am so glad my sexual orientation takes me away from that.

As for mixed clubs, they are not safe spaces for gays to be. They are caleld "mixed" because they want the pink pound but they are just the same as any other non gay club.

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Spike matey, I'm disagreeing with you here. I've seen many a sturmash in a gay venue. Mixed venues I've always found ok as well. It's down to you mate - you've got your own take on it, and nobody is going to change that, or so it would seem. I could liken you to some hetros who'd argue the bit that homosexuality isn't normal etc - you're doing much the same thing, but from the gay angle. Shame really - I'll bet you're a really nice lad.
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Message 148 - posted by Norant, Jul 27, 2006

i agree with a lot of what you say 4L3X. I would never feel safe anywhere other than a gay venue.

Also, it is a known fact that gay venues are the safest becuase gays don't cause trouble, only hets cause trouble when they go there. Also, the reason you see police vans all over our city centres is because the hets fight each other regardless of whether they get what they want (ie laid) and intimidate everyone with their noises, mating/breeding rituals (such as the catcalling between groups of men and groups of nearly naked women) and their behaviour. I am so glad my sexual orientation takes me away from that.

As for mixed clubs, they are not safe spaces for gays to be. They are caleld "mixed" because they want the pink pound but they are just the same as any other non gay club.

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spike,i hate to have to say this but you are the type of gay person that would make a hetrosexual person feel uncomfortable!are you the type who will stand in the bar looking and critising the strait people because they are in a gay bar?your gay bar?a bar exclusively for gays?i dont believe there is such a thing and i dont believe it would ever be allowed to happen.

i started on hear saying that i have been in strait bars and i have been in gay bars,and of the two i prefered the gay bars because of the atmosphere,but lord only knows that if i walked into a gay bar that you was in that atmosphere would change strait away.not because of me but because of your predijice of hetrosexual people.

in a perfect world i can see you with gays on one side of the fence and straits on the other side and never the twain shall meet,you have obviously had a few bad experiences of being around strait people in strait and gay bars.

the fact is that i didnt start going into a gay bar out of choice because i did think that they were for gay people,i thought (stupidly)that i would be chatted up and i would have to stand with my back to the wall all night(the old ones are the best)but it was the fact that a gay friend of mine harry asked me to go to the gay bar with him and i said yes i would,he told me that one gay can spot another one for miles and that i would be perfectly ok.when i got there i was greeted in a freindly fashion and had a really good night,not something i would expect in a strait bar.

i do hope you find your EXCLUSIVE gay bar,that only gays go to feel comfortable around each other,but i have a feeling that no matter where a gay bar opens after a while it will start to become frequented by straits aswell,and the real trouble would start when they are turned away in favour for gay people only.
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Message 149 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Jul 27, 2006

I can honestly say ive never had any trouble except that one time in the pub. I dont advertise the fact im gay, only the very perceptive people know i am and the rest are sometimes supprised.

I guess its where you go also, i have only ever experienced the scene in london, gay, straight and mixed clubs, but even the straight clubs had gay people in them, i always found the people really friendly no matter there sexual orientation, yeah they were probably on drugs but i always enjoyed myself.

Inner city local clubs i always find extremely unfriendly, i guess when you have regulars and alot of them in one area is when you get trouble, long time fueds between groups of people that know one another and dont get on. You dont seem to get that problem in London as people come from all over to enjoy the night out so everyone is new and only small close circles of friends go out together for the music and a good night. So something like a group of rowdy lads destroys the calm atmosphere and creates a ripple of intimidation which puts people on edge and well in turn does ruin the night basically for anyone.

LOL Norant, i can never quite work out how the gaydar works, but it does, its really weird.
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Message 150 - posted by Spike, Jul 28, 2006

I shall take your word for that merak. I have never seen any form of trouble in a gay bar apart from when heteros have appeared and started being homophobic and when that happened I and my friend sjust kleft and went somewhere else.
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Message 151 - posted by Spike, Jul 28, 2006

norant I can think of several exclusively gay bars in Manchester and one exclusively gay club and I will be frequenting them this evening in fact.

Gay bars were set up so that we could go somewhere without getting hassle, where we could be ourselves and not be hated/disrespected. That still stands all these years later. They are there where we can be ourselves without fear of being disrespected.

Thinking back on my nights out when I used to go out in Leeds, every time I went out I would see hoards of heteros in the so-caleld gay clubnight. It would be swarming with near-naked het females and het males would be after them, leering at them. The only gays in site were the hairdo queens who were surrounded by these fag-hags. It was a very intimidating atmosphere and even magazines are saying that this event is now "not what it was." Similarly, in a club which had always been a gay club, the hets used to appear and start 'breeding' in the middle of the dancefloor and the club specifically to disrespect us, to intimidate us and make us feel uncomfortable and the place got degayed, leaving again only thw hairdo queens and their faghags. And in the gay bars, the amount of times hets have appeared and taken the mickey out of me, my friends and those around ahs bene unreal. All I want is to go to bars and clubs where I can be around my own kind - other gay people in a safe space without fear of hets appearing and being disrespectful.
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Message 152 - posted by Spike, Jul 28, 2006

One other point from the second half of merak's posting given that there isn't the "quote message" function anymore.

I think it is unfair to equate me to those heteros who think that homosexuality isn't normal. I never said that or even hinted at that. It is fair to say that hets don't find homosexuality normal because if they did then they would treat us as equals and with respect wouldn't they.
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Message 153 - posted by grum_back_seat_driver, Jul 28, 2006



I think it is unfair to equate me to those heteros who think that homosexuality isn't normal. I never said that or even hinted at that. It is fair to say that hets don't find homosexuality normal because if they did then they would treat us as equals and with respect wouldn't they.

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"breeding"????

My days spike, you realy are completely immune to opinion unless it makes you feel injured in some way.

In the respect that you will not be convinced that "hets" are sometimes not in the least bit interested in homosexuality either way, it is just people. So comparing you to those people isn't really innapropriate as it is exactly the same mindset that spawns it: fear.
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Message 154 - posted by merak, Jul 28, 2006

think it is unfair to equate me to those heteros who think that homosexuality isn't normal. I never said that or even hinted at that. It is fair to say that hets don't find homosexuality normal because if they did then they would treat us as equals and with respect wouldn't they.

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It's not unfair Spike - you appear to have the same contempt for hetros that many hetros have for homos!
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Message 155 - posted by Norant, Jul 28, 2006

spike.

you keep banging on about the same old thing,your great fear of hetro's what you dont seem to understand is that a far majority of hetrosexual males dont give a hoot what you do to other men!

as for your experiences of seeing hetrosexuals practically breeding in your gay bars,do you stand and watch?or do you go and complain to the management,it seems to be so of putting to you.

i have this strange notion that no matter what i put on this board you are only going to repeat what you have said on previous post's.


and i too have seen gay men fighting in gay bars?that part of our human nature is not exclusive to hetrosexuals,you seem to be anti hetro,thus i can see why trouble heads your way.
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Message 156 - posted by Spike, Jul 29, 2006

when I say 'breeding' I measn heterosexuals 'making out', shall we say, as they frequently do in public and seem to ened to do in gay venues to take the mickey out of the clintelle the bar is there to cater for.
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Message 157 - posted by miahigh, Jul 29, 2006

well thats one take we got on you spike.you cant breed :-)
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Message 158 - posted by Spike, Jul 29, 2006

Fighting isn't part of my human nature and I don't have the need to use my fists and nor do anyone I know. No matter what the situation there is no need for fighting and I have never seen it on Canal Street or any other gay venue although I have heard of it happening but that was by the hets who appeared to cause trouble.

As for the 'breeding' in gay places, the last time I saw it someone who was with me complaiend and they were asked to leave as they wer ehaving oral sex in the middle of the bar. The time before when someone complaiend, the complainer was told to leave and we all left immediately after. The time before, two mixed sex couples started making out in the middle of the danceloor and the dancefloor suddenly emptied and the club emptied out soon after way before chuck-out time and that venue has subsequently been straightened out.

Anyway, I had my night out in Canal Street and yes the club I went to was 100% gay as I knew it would be. If not then I wouldn't have spent the money on the trainfare.
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Message 159 - posted by Spike, Jul 29, 2006

lol true miahigh. I definately do NOT breed!!
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Message 160 - posted by Norant, Jul 29, 2006

spike.

do gay people in bars not kiss,cuddle and dance in the gay bar?please dont tell me no because i have seen it myself.do they do that just to take the mickey out of the hetrosexuals?

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