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Take me to the gay bar?

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Message 1 - posted by manc-host1, Mar 27, 2006

What makes a gay bar gay? Should the majority of the people in there be homosexual? Some bars on Canal Street think so, and to keep straight people out, they're actually testing men and women for their 'gayness'.

But should this be an issue at all? Does it matter what sexuality you are when youíre out on in the Village? Are gay venues right to turn away straight punters?

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Message 2 - posted by icecommando, Mar 27, 2006

You should be advised you are not aloud to mention gay or homosexual items on this board. it might offend someone
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Message 3, Mar 27, 2006

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Message 4 - posted by none/MAS!, Mar 27, 2006

Arf,Arf.<biggrin>
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Message 5 - posted by Dwaine Benzie, Mar 27, 2006

It does seem prejudice, but how else are you going to discourage the skinhead gay-bashers from drinking there and starting trouble?

Most of the girls I know enjoy drinking down Canal Street and don't even think of the relevance of the name 'The Gay Village'. It's a different story for straight guys though. I've gotta say I would feel slightly uncomfortable drinking down there (being straight and all!). Shame, cos it looks like a really nice place to drink and enjoy the sunshine. But thatís probably why itís a nice place to be, cos there are no knuckle-dragging meatheads there!
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Message 6 - posted by DURHAMMAN, Mar 27, 2006

I'm a gay man and trying to get into Essential, in particular, is a horrible, humiliating experience.

Isn't the whole point of the gay village to have a space where gay people feel comfortable?
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Message 7 - posted by Fluffypeg, Mar 27, 2006

What do you have to do to get into Essential??
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Message 8 - posted by Norant, Mar 27, 2006

dwaine,

i am a strait guy and a friend of mine who is gay named harry took me to a gay bar once,and its was a really good night.no meatheads,no trouble just good people.

i never felt uncomfortable.
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Message 9 - posted by grum_back_seat_driver, Mar 27, 2006

Gay venues can turn away whom ever they choose, it is private property after all - R.O.A.R.
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Message 11 - posted by Dwaine Benzie, Mar 27, 2006

dwaine,

i am a strait guy and a friend of mine who is gay named harry took me to a gay bar once,and its was a really good night.no meatheads,no trouble just good people.

i never felt uncomfortable.

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Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't feel uncomfortable because I was surrounded by gay men, i'd feel uncomfortable because i felt like an imposter! I suppose it would be different if I was there with gay friends who knew the scene.

Also, I have had the odd daytime drinking session along Canal Street. It doesn't scare mee that much <yikes>
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Message 12 - posted by DURHAMMAN, Mar 27, 2006

I've gotten in twice before, you just have to convince the doorman that you are gay and not drunk!

My bf accidentally tripped on the curb when moving forward in the queue and the bouncers immediately said get lost!

The doorman also interrogates you "where have you been drinking tonight?"
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Message 13 - posted by smurray1986, Mar 27, 2006

I can see the purpose of the idea but such a practice is quite frankly disgusting. We are now, thankfully, beginning to live in a world that regards discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation as unacceptable, and indeed illegal. The European Convention On Human Rights 1950 recognises, by Article 14, that this contrary to human rights to allow disrcimination on the basis of inter alia sexual orientation; and this has been incorporated into English law by the Human Rights Act 1998. There can be no doubt that refusing entry to any club on the basis of sexual orientation is simply unacceptable, but due to the fact that the clubs are not public bodies they cannot be held liable under the HRA 1998.
Leaving the law aside one can easily see how awful such an apporach is if one views it from the reverse perspective. Imagine the public outcry if other Manchester clubs decided that "to promote the culture and atmosphere of the club" (the quoted reason for the Canal Street club's decision) they would refuse to admit anyone who was homosexual, and began asking people to prove their heterosexuality before being granted entry. Politicians would fall over themselves to condemn such a practice, but somehow positive discrimination is deemed acceptable.
As a frequent heterosexual visitor to the clubs on Canal Street I would hope that I would not be made to feel like a second class of citizen through being straight, but that is all that can come of this! Absolutely disgusting!!
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Message 14 - posted by U2448401, Mar 27, 2006

As soon as it becomes overrun by hets the gays avoid it for a couple of weeks and the hets will move on.
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Message 15 - posted by Triquetra, Mar 27, 2006

For one reason or another, most of my closest and longest standing friends are gay, and I go out clubbing with them regularly. If this was brought into force, you would be looking at a version of "Apartheid". When I go out on the "Gay Scene" it is always with my gay friends and a mixed group, and neither I, or my group have any intentions of making gay poeple feel uncomfortable. I understand the concerns of the venue's in the village, but I have been going out there for many years, and also in Blackpool and I have not witnessed problems other than would happen on a usual night out in any club. Please don't separate, gay-friendly hetro's from their friends. That sort of attitude, would surely prove to be counter-productive and create more intolerance and ingorance in the long run amongst the general public.
What makes a gay bar gay? Should the majority of the people in there be homosexual? Some bars on Canal Street think so, and to keep straight people out, they're actually testing men and women for their 'gayness'.

But should this be an issue at all? Does it matter what sexuality you are when youíre out on in the Village? Are gay venues right to turn away straight punters?

www.bbc.co.uk/manche...

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Message 16 - posted by Dwaine Benzie, Mar 27, 2006

Plus, from an economical perspective, the gay village has brought a lot of tourism into Manchester. Events such as Madi gra (sic!) etc.

Guys, if you are that envious of Canal Street and its scene, help promote a place which is equally as chilled and hetro-friendly, and stop tolerating the knuckle-heads!
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Message 17 - posted by Goaltender, Mar 28, 2006

Most gay people don't have a major problem with the average 'straight' person using the bars ........however there are more and more braindead types coming in, treating it at best as a side show others purely to create problems. In the bar I use trouble was almost unheard of, now it happens on an almost regular basis - almost always started by non-gays. A major problem is ill behaved hen-parties descending on a bar - last week a group of 20 plus 'hit' the village in one bar all the gays left - so when the hen-party left - the bar was empty. The gay village is promoted as a must-see by many tourist sites, or articles on Manchester, they should stop!!
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Message 18 - posted by manc_village_idiot, Mar 28, 2006

I am a straight village resident but i no longer drink on canal street. This is not because i feel uncomfortable doing so but because there are plenty of straight bars in manchester and to me the village is becoming more "gay-friendly" rather than "gay". because of this i think it has lost a lot of the charm it had a few years ago which is a great shame.
as to there being no meatheads, on sunday night we had some moron shouting derogatory comments about "fags" outside our flat. it's disgusting but quite common.
friday night, two weeks ago, there was a load of coppers outside view because a girl had been alledgedly raped in the toilet. if it was true, i can't see a gay man wanting to do that to a girl somehow.
unfortunately, the trouble does seem to be caused by the straight people so i would be in full support of any bar wanting to keep us out.
as to getting in essential, i even had trouble getting in when i had my "i love essential" membership card!! not missing much though!!!

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Message 19 - posted by xcjx06, Mar 28, 2006

"I've gotta say I would feel slightly uncomfortable drinking down there (being straight and all!)."

How ridiculous isn't it sad that a full grown straight bloke isn't secure enough in his own sexuality to sit in a gay bar.

Im straight in a relationship for 3 yrs and i have been drinking in the village since i was 16 yo. Never did me any harm
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Message 20 - posted by applepiecheesecake, Mar 28, 2006

I have to say, as a bi-sexual female who dresses in a 'straight' way, I've had a few funny looks from canal street regulars over the years, even though I'm clearly drinking with gay friends. That I can cope with. What I have more of an issue with is that surely, I should be able to go out in a mixed group with gay friends to somewhere they have a remote chance of pulling...if I had to drag them to straight places all the time if they wanted a night out with me then that would be outrageous. It's wrong to assume that all heterosexuals on canal street are out to trick the gay community and equally wrong to suggest that hetero and bi people don't ever want to go for a quiet drink in their gay mate's local...
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