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NHS Disaster

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Message 61 - posted by pompomwhiting, Oct 11, 2007

G.P wages!
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Message 62 - posted by Lambchop13, Oct 11, 2007

That's the problem with 'today' Bcb, everyone thinks "Shove more money at it, it'll get sorted" but it doesn't work that way.

More = more waste.
Take it back to the 'shop floor' so to speak. Make each Ward Sister answerable to Matron, both used to be thought of as tyrants, but they got the job done.

Trim the upper levels that sit at desks and concentrate on the work force that actually do the job, cut the 'meetings' and 'initatives' which are the start of the wastage.
Get rid out 'contracting out' with that, the responsibilty goes too, the buck is forever being pushed elsewhere.

Heck, if I ran my home/house like they are running the NHS, it would have resulted in my kids being taken away and me serving a sentence with HM.

LC500
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Message 63 - posted by pompomwhiting, Oct 11, 2007

Quite so Lamb. I would have so much more respect for that chief executive if he'd turned from the camera, rolled up his sleeves and stormed into the hospital saying "I'll sort this out"

Pom thinks that there are too many chiefs and not enough indians. Which would be alright if the chiefs weren't lazy bums.
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Message 64 - posted by Lambchop13, Oct 11, 2007

Spot on Pom, go to the head of the waiting list <laugh>
But, you are so right, if more Managers had to spend a week a month doing the jobs on the 'shop floor', oh wouldn't everyone's life be so different?

LC500
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Message 65 - posted by Blackcountrybloke, Oct 17, 2007

Another hard working,conscientious Nurse leaving the NHS because of the bureaucratic wasters in charge.

Some more wasted Tax payers money down the drain.

But I suppose thats ok though,there are plenty of hard working,conscientious folk to take her place!!!!!!!!!!!

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Message 66 - posted by Junk2Rubbish, Oct 26, 2007

Spot on Pom, go to the head of the waiting list <laugh>
But, you are so right, if more Managers had to spend a week a month doing the jobs on the 'shop floor', oh wouldn't everyone's life be so different?
LC500

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And top of the list of the 'shop floor' jobs should be cleaning up the infected wards that make the NHS hospitals such dangerous places to go into.
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Message 67 - posted by Lambchop13, Oct 28, 2007

Yes, 1 or 2 weeks every couple of months, getting their hands dirty, would make them realise what it is to provide a service with the amenities they have available.

Cleanliness next to Godliness?
Or, lack of it fast-tracking to meeting your Maker? <erm>

LC500
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Message 68 - posted by Blackcountrybloke, Oct 31, 2007

Back to the top again, not suprising is it!!

New Labour have squandered some more hard earned Tax payers money.

130 MILLION POUNDS to cure "70" yes "seventy" drug addicts!!!!

When is someone going to shout from the top of Big Ben to say "THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED"where has the money gone? total incompitents from the folk in charge.

One Hundred and Thirty Million Pounds, beyond belief. Another disgrace.
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Message 69 - posted by Junk2Rubbish, Nov 1, 2007

Many government run institutions arrive at a point when senior staff realise that true success might well see their numbers diminish and their empires contract.

From that point onwards an institution's main aims become focused on itself - keeping numbers up, salaries up, and empires going rather than producing real results.

Hence the objective of this particular institution may well be to 'contain the problem' rather than cure any addicts.
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Message 70 - posted by Blackcountrybloke, Nov 9, 2007

Courts of Appeal crap.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/...

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Message 71 - posted by Blackcountrybloke, Nov 22, 2007

What a disgrace!

Folk have died and suffered, being told there isn't enough money to supply certain drugs and equipment!!

The incompetents are now saying there is a surplus of 1.8 Billion pounds.

Whats that saying about a brewery!!
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Message 72 - posted by pompomwhiting, Nov 22, 2007

Will someone answer me. Can I opt out of the NHS.

Pom doesn't trust it.
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Message 73 - posted by VeryTrue, Nov 22, 2007

Courts of Appeal crap.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/...


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Make your mind up! The Government reneged on an agreement with these overseas doctors to give them permanent residency, and all the court did was to rule the Government's behaviour unreasonable. Surely, as someone who always thinks that anything this Government does is evil, you should applaud this act of basic equity.

Or does the fact that on this occasion the Government's behaviour only affects foreigners, many with a tanned appearance, over-ride your usual fixation?
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Message 74 - posted by VeryTrue, Nov 22, 2007


Will someone answer me. Can I opt out of the NHS.

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Of course you can, Pom. I am sure BUPA or PPP would be very happy to receive your premium. Unfortunately, you wouldn't be allowed to claim back what you are paying in taxes to support the NHS, but as I understand it you are not currently a contributor to the Exchequer, so the point os moot.
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Message 75 - posted by pompomwhiting, Nov 22, 2007


Will someone answer me. Can I opt out of the NHS.

Of course you can, Pom. I am sure BUPA or PPP would be very happy to receive your premium. Unfortunately, you wouldn't be allowed to claim back what you are paying in taxes to support the NHS, but as I understand it you are not currently a contributor to the Exchequer, so the point os moot.

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So in other words I can't. That 40 years of contributions has just been flittered away.

Pom is currently providing her own medical care. Wouldn't want to sponge off the state in that direction. She is even doing her bit to save them money by disuading her husband from taking the drugs that his G.P has got him hooked on. When will he believe me? He will not die if he doesn't take the 40 mgs of simvastatin that he is prescribed. He's down to 20 mgs. Has anyone seen a pill cutter about?
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Message 76 - posted by VeryTrue, Nov 22, 2007


So in other words I can't. That 40 years of contributions has just been flittered away.

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On the contrary, the 40 years of contribution have covered the 40 years of support you have had to-date. And your childrens'. And the support you had when you were a child. And the support that you are getting now.

As for deciding what the appropriate dose is for your husband's statins, I somehow doubt that there is much difference in cost to the NHS between a 40mg does and a 20mg dose, so all you are doing is helping to clog your husband's arteries. Should this incredibly arrogant disregard for the medical profession's judgement as to dose result in him having a stroke or a heart attack, you can be sure that your "savings" will result in huge medical bills at the taxpayer's expense. Good job!
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Message 77 - posted by patsy, Nov 22, 2007

pom,

Do you have a home blood pressure machine so you can check hubby's BP?

Are you cutting his medication for Hypertension by half without medical advice?

I believe he has had a CVA in the past?
<erm>

Pats.

She is even doing her bit to save them money by disuading her husband from taking the drugs that his G.P has got him hooked on. When will he believe me? He will not die if he doesn't take the 40 mgs of simvastatin that he is prescribed. He's down to 20 mgs. Has anyone seen a pill cutter about?

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Message 78 - posted by pompomwhiting, Nov 22, 2007

For a moment there Patsy I thought you were going to say there is a way out of the NHS. Mr Pom knows that if he hadn't had his wife to fight his corner he would have at best left PRH with an infected bed sore, head injury from falling out of bed, suffering undernourishment, in a wheel chair with no prospect of ever walking again. At worst in a shroud. It took me a few years to realise that the community service, that I had worked in for the previous 14 years, was not better. All I need to do now is convince him.

yes Pom does have a sphygmomanometre and stethescope. Acquired back in the 70's when I did an intensive care course in Edinburgh. I remember buying a thermometer when I started a family - didn't use that either. Always knew if they were feverish. Infact, I was able to tell my first born that she was allegic to aspirin. Temperature went sky high after using the paediatric dose for her teething.
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