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Should Junk Food Be Banned?

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Message 21 - posted by Yodell, Mar 2, 2006

My doctor told me there wasn't that much wrong so it must be the drink so I told him I'd come back when he was sober.
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Message 22 - posted by moll99y, Mar 2, 2006

Your right get back on track to the topic in hand it's the children we have to worry about, nice one, junk food is fast food, fast food is what you get when you have not got time for nutrition, you name and they will deep fry it for you. Lets feed our children good healthy food, they are talking about snack machines in schools, getting new ones with healthy snacks, not chocolate and crisps, cola and fizz, but health bars, dried fruit, fresh fruit drink, and cold water, cadburys supply the machines for the chocs etc., free but the schools are complaining that now they will have to pay for the healthy option (the vending machines). But should the kids be snacking between meals, or should they be sent of to school with a piece of fruit/healthy snack from home. note; some schools already have the healthy option vending machines.
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Message 23 - posted by moll99y, Mar 2, 2006

Your right get back on track to the topic in hand it's the children we have to worry about, nice one, junk food is fast food, fast food is what you get when you have not got time for nutrition, you name and they will deep fry it for you. Lets feed our children good healthy food, they are talking about snack machines in schools, getting new ones with healthy snacks, not chocolate and crisps, cola and fizz, but health bars, dried fruit, fresh fruit drink, and cold water, cadburys supply the machines for the chocs etc., free but the schools are complaining that now they will have to pay for the healthy option (the vending machines). But should the kids be snacking between meals, or should they be sent of to school with a piece of fruit/healthy snack from home. note; some schools already have the healthy option vending machines.
Hey look guys.....I think this differing of opinions should go to arbitration so on that basis I'll arbitrate.

We're off subject whether we realise it or not!

The thread concerns the alarming growth in obesity amongst children. Adults can please themselves and face whatever results they should accrue, be it state sanction, express route to the crematorium or just a complete wardrobe full of clothes that have been patched together with the remnants of the millenium dome. That's their choice!

With kids it's all different. The obesity problem is growing at a phenomonal rate (pun intended) and it ain't funny. This is the next generation we're talking about here and as such we have some responsibility in ensuring we've done our best in preventing the future nation ensuing into a plethora of brightly coloured hot air ballons requiring a tonka truck with a lift-hoist to get them to work.

The question was should junk-food be banned?

The answer should be, there's no such thing as junk food. There is food that ensures you're minimising the potential effects of too many additives, too much carbohydrate, too much fat, too much artificial colouring and flavouring.
And of course, there's the other type.

You may have noticed I used the phrase too much or too many in my previous paragraph. That's important because there is little within the modern food industries repertoire that could be described as bad food......if it's consumed in moderation.

Parents must be educated and held responsible for their children's eating habits in their formal years. Parents busy life-styles should not be allowed to spill over into their children's diets.
If that education, by whatever subtle means the state can contrive, can punch the serious the situation into the minds of the parent then our spiralling dive into early obesity will no longer plummet out of control.

Be what you will.....but be sensible with the kids.

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Message 24 - posted by marvoon, Mar 2, 2006

Tell the kids to eat all the rubbish going, tell them it's good for them.
Tell them if you ever catch them eating fruit or vegetables you'll give them a bloody good hiding.

You all know what will happen next.
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Message 25 - posted by flyingtwinkle, Mar 2, 2006

yes as the name suggests junk it is and not funky with all those extra callories empty callories fat sugar and no nutrients
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Message 26 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Mar 2, 2006

If you make sweets crisps and junk off limits to children when they become older they will end up with eating disorders. Your better off allowing these kinds of thing in moderation.

Unfortunatley we live in an instant society. we dont appreciate our food compared to our European cousins as we dont have the time. We get in from work, find that by the time we have spent a few hours preparing a meal its what 8pm, The easiest option would be to grab a fat ridden ready meal that takes 20 mins to cook and eat infront of the TV. No one sits down around the table for a long meal these days. Both parents have to work so no one is at home preparing a nice meal.

I dont think you can blame one thing, its more of a combination of things.

Banning junk food will not solve any problems, would only create ones for people that do know what a balanced diet is. Education is what is needed not a Nanny.
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Message 27 - posted by Yodell, Mar 2, 2006

The best way to get young uns' to eat broccoli is to tell them its snot.
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Message 28 - posted by philiom, Mar 2, 2006

Yes Marvoon....it frequently seems that way but I don't suppose we, as the previous generation, are that much better.

Somebody tells me I can't have a drink and I'm suddenly dying of thirst. Got to get up in the morning, oh please, just one more minute.

I guess Nature implanted a micro-switch somewhere that senses what's good for us and what's bad and some sod reversed the polarity of the brain's electrical supply.

Still, I digress. Molly-whatsits comments above are correct in many ways but I'm not sure we should be looking at what goes on during school dinner-breaks to alleviate the problem.

If for example, I feed my cat (if I had one that is) a dish of smoked salmon in the morning and again in the evening then eventually little Tiddles would cock-a-snoop at a lunch-time bowl of vitamin enriched Whiskas served up for lunch. If I pander to it's natural instinct to eat tasty fish then anything else would become almost abhorrent to it's taste buds. And that's why I don't have a cat. But I do have kids! and they're conditioning at home during mornings, evenings and weekends in the relaxed and pandering environment of their private worlds is the culprit. They don't even need to ask for junk food in the majority of homes....it's there to be taken from the biscuit tin, the fridge or the food cupboard where the latest giant economy sized bag of Walker's assorted flavours crisp packets reside.

So, I reckon it's up to us! But it's not easy to deny the little angels anything is it? Blast!
Tell the kids to eat all the rubbish going, tell them it's good for them.
Tell them if you ever catch them eating fruit or vegetables you'll give them a bloody good hiding.

You all know what will happen next.

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Message 29 - posted by grum_back_seat_driver, Mar 3, 2006

I've spent one week in hospital in my life (50 years). I was 9, I fell down some stairs. Had concussion.

How on earth you can equate treating a person for an ailment brought on by being overweight, to keeping somebody on a pension or in a nursing home for anything up to 25 years completely baffles me. The latter would cost much, much more. People dying before they reach retirement age are actually doing you a favour!

I pay my taxes. If I'm not entitled to treatment, stop taking money out of my wages.


By the way, I have no children at school, so why should I pay towards education?
See what I mean, if we all applied your logic to the problem we'd be in one hell of a state.

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A week in hospital? Self inflicted, I want a rebate.;-)

Seriously though, you raised some good points I hadn't thought through properly.

I don't want to go to a nursing home, nor will I because the time I would be admitted is coincidentally the time I will be attempting to be the oldest person to swim the channel.

The whole point of refusal of treatment for the morbidly obese was as a means of getting the point across that if you are huge you are harming your body. It seems the only time most people sit up and take notice is if you take something away from them.

Children need to be taught how to care for their bodies and the consequences of not doing so. People get eye-watering body piercings but they are not allowed them at school. Once you are an adult do what you will but until then you should leave education at your full potential, not handicapped by unfitness and prejudice (by people like I was :-()

The present arrangement where any fat whatsoever is labelled bad causes some people to go for the opposite and starve themselves which is also seriously unhealthy.

The value of a healthy lifestyle should be made available to everyone while they are young, if parents choose to ignore that issue but found it cheaper to feed and execise their offspring than pay for private treatment and ply them with crap food and xbox's then there might be a change in the health of the nation.
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Message 30 - posted by philiom, Mar 3, 2006

The best way to get young uns' to eat broccoli is to tell them its snot.

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Wrong again Yodell. That's spinach!;)
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Message 31 - posted by MJB, Mar 6, 2006

The best way to get young uns' to eat broccoli is to tell them its snot.

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Or bogeys! <laugh>
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Message 32 - posted by Tierrah, Mar 7, 2006

I dislike the thought of my future children eating junk food. However I do not want them to go nuts when they see it and turn out with an eating disorder.

I think junkfood in moderation is fine, I will not let my future children eat McDonalds or anything like that on a regualr basis, maybe as a treat or not considering the nutritional value of cardboard)

As a young child, junk food and glucose/sucrose was removed from my diet altogether and I have ended up needing and craving sugary foods a huge amount of the time. I do not want my children to become like this, and crash out on sugar all the time.

I t was proven by Jamie Oliver that children who eat junk food are irritable and nasty, and those who east healthier have a generally nice temperament.

If children are not given the option to eat junk food they will HAVE to adapt. This goes for packed lunches too.
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Message 33 - posted by U3220267, Mar 7, 2006

Easily said as a future parent!
Wait until you actually have those children, and have to put up with the tantrums and peer pressure etc.
You may just do anything to shut the little angels up.
Up to a point that is>
I dislike the thought of my future children eating junk food. However I do not want them to go nuts when they see it and turn out with an eating disorder.

I think junkfood in moderation is fine, I will not let my future children eat McDonalds or anything like that on a regualr basis, maybe as a treat or not considering the nutritional value of cardboard)

As a young child, junk food and glucose/sucrose was removed from my diet altogether and I have ended up needing and craving sugary foods a huge amount of the time. I do not want my children to become like this, and crash out on sugar all the time.

I t was proven by Jamie Oliver that children who eat junk food are irritable and nasty, and those who east healthier have a generally nice temperament.

If children are not given the option to eat junk food they will HAVE to adapt. This goes for packed lunches too.

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Message 34 - posted by Tierrah, Mar 7, 2006

Easily said as a future parent!
Wait until you actually have those children, and have to put up with the tantrums and peer pressure etc.
You may just do anything to shut the little angels up.
Up to a point that is

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I am the oldest of 5 children, the youngest two being under the age of 7. I brought them up from birth pretty much as my mum had Post Natal Depression. I KNOW what kids are like, and I am glad to say they usually dont throw tantrums. They eat healthily ^^

I wouldnt ever give in to them OR my future children.
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Message 35 - posted by U3220267, Mar 7, 2006

As I said easier said than done.
Come back when you have some real experience.
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