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Message 2261 - posted by Slimtone, Jan 29, 2008


I notice you killing types ignored m2240 - bit near the mark, eh?
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Message 2262 - posted by littleAdgeCutler, Jan 29, 2008

You do know what suppresive vaccination means don't you?


Yes. And if I didn't, I'd look it up ! derrr

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So tell me how i vaccinate my animals?

Can I get it from the vets tomorrow?
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Message 2263 - posted by U4357578, Jan 29, 2008

I'm guessing that if the EU veterinary committee has authorised it, yes.

Show me why that assumption would be wrong.
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Message 2264 - posted by littleAdgeCutler, Jan 29, 2008


I notice you killing types ignored m2240 - bit near the mark, eh?

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I didn't ignore it.
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Message 2265 - posted by littleAdgeCutler, Jan 29, 2008

I'm guessing that if the EU veterinary committee has authorised it, yes.

Show me why that assumption would be wrong.

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Trouble is Jonah.....they haven't !
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Message 2266 - posted by Slimtone, Jan 29, 2008


Trouble is Jonah.....they haven't

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Oh? Evidence then.
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Message 2267 - posted by littleAdgeCutler, Jan 29, 2008


Trouble is Jonah.....they haven't


Oh? Evidence then.

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How is the disease controlled?
The basic disease control policy is the slaughter of all susceptible animals on premises infected with FMD and dangerous contacts. This is in keeping with EU legislation and OIE guidelines. Movement restrictions are also put in place to help contain the disease.

There is an EU wide ban on the use of prophylactic (routine) vaccination, which has been in place since 1992. This allows EU Member States to retain the highest FMD status under international rules of “countries free from foot-and-mouth disease without vaccination”.

However, the new EU Directive gives greater prominence to the potential use of emergency vaccination in the event of an outbreak as an adjunct to the basic slaughter policy. The Government accepts that emergency vaccination should be considered as a disease control option from the start of any outbreak of FMD.

The UK has its own stocks of 8 different FMD antigen strains held, on its behalf, by a commercial supplier. In addition, the EU Vaccine Bank holds a range of antigens for emergency use.

www.defra.gov.uk/ani...


Will that do you?

The lessons are free by the way.
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Message 2268 - posted by littleAdgeCutler, Jan 29, 2008

Its a debate with the under nines !!

Come on !!

Give me something to think about !!!!
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Message 2269 - posted by Slimtone, Jan 29, 2008

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A little entertainment for you to go to bed with, as you dream of killing things !!

Under -nines? Not sure what you mean. Would that be your IQ or something?
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Message 2270 - posted by U2836684, Jan 29, 2008

Good god aokey me ole fella me lad.


You still here i thought you had,had enough of this.


did adge help you out with your patches like he promised?
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Message 2271 - posted by RebelBadger, Jan 30, 2008


Badgers can do what they like of course !!!

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<biggrin>

Slimtone,

Just a couple of questions.

I am in no way an advocate for fox hunting, but can you give an alternative? I just don't see any other way...I would rather a fox be given a sporting chance (again when it goes to ground it should be left alone!)than poisoned, snared or shot.

Also what airline do you work for?
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Message 2272 - posted by Slimtone, Jan 30, 2008


Hi, RebelBadger/

I work for TWA (Travel Without Arrival.) :-D

I know our hunting friends will go into apoplexy when I say - LEAVE THE FOXES ALONE!!

Have a good day.
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Message 2273 - posted by RebelBadger, Jan 30, 2008


Hi, RebelBadger/

I work for TWA (Travel Without Arrival.) :-D

I know our hunting friends will go into apoplexy when I say - LEAVE THE FOXES ALONE!!

Have a good day.

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TWA - very good, very good! ;)

I'd love it if we could leave them alone Slimtone. The facts are that we share this Island with them, they have no natural predators and a constant supply of food, be it garbage, lambs, chickens, wild rabbits and other small creatures. We're two species that impact on each others lives and that's not going to change. There's only harmony through controlled culling (...if you can call that harmony :( ) It's just how we go about that culling that's the issue.

You have a good day too.

Aren't they talking about re-introducing wolves, bears and beavers back into this country? What do people think about that?

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Message 2274 - posted by Tettie-Hat, Jan 30, 2008

They are talking about re-introducing 500 wolves to Scotland to control an exploding population of red deer.

They claim it would have substantial conservation benefits.

Saves having to shoot, poison or snare the red deer, suppose.

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Message 2275 - posted by RebelBadger, Jan 30, 2008

Hmmm 500 wolves? I think this might be more trouble than it's worth. The wolves might decide they prefer the taste of lamb. Lambs and sheep are alot easier for a wolf to catch and kill too. They could develop a taste for cat, dog...human <yikes>
....or fox? Could we not genetically engineer wolves that loved the taste of fox and fox only? Ok just a bit far fetched.

Why don't we just control the exploding red deer population ourselves? Venison is gorgeous!
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Message 2276 - posted by Tettie-Hat, Jan 30, 2008

We have a few escapee's from Whipsnade [or maybe even private zoo's??] who help with the deer population round these here parts.

I've seen a lynx with my very own eyes, merrily chomping on a Muntjac in a field by the side of the road early one morning, as I drove on my way to work.

Shame I didn't have a camera at the time. What a beautiful cat - the lynx.

Point is; provided the preditors don't have a population explosion themselves, they don't pose much of a threat to livestock. Lynx are shy creatures by nature, prefering to keep away from humans where possible. I believe the wolf is the same.


I like your genetically modified idea <ok> That'll teach those pesky fox's!<laugh>
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Message 2277 - posted by BashfulAnthony, Jan 30, 2008


Read this carefully, and then, hunters, argue your corner - IF YOU CAN !!

www.ifaw.org/ifaw/df...

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Message 2278 - posted by Crusader, Jan 31, 2008

Bashful, it doesnt even get to first base. It starts 'CPHA BELIEVES.....' !!!

No facts, just a bald statement of BELIEF that hunting is 'cruel'. I am not a cruel man, and I would not take part in something which was cruel. Prof. Linzey is speaking through his nether regions, and his argument is grossly naieve and misleading.

Read this carefully, and then, hunters, argue your corner - IF YOU CAN !!

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Message 2279 - posted by BashfulAnthony, Jan 31, 2008

No facts, just a bald statement of BELIEF that hunting is 'cruel'

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It is not intended to be factual (you noticed !) The entire question is as much a matter of perceived right and wrong as it is about facts. You say it is merely a statement of belief, and then ingenuously make your own statement of belief. Great debating !!

I am not a cruel man

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In light of your activities, which are voluntary, then that comment is pure humbug.

Prof. Linzey is speaking through his nether regions

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You always have to include a bit of abuse, eh? A sure sign of the paucity of your argument.

Professor Linzey is grossly naieve

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The gentleman is an Oxford professor and theologian, and highly respected. I would back him against you in any debate - naive he is not. And you be misleading if, as you say, we are not dealing in facts?
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Message 2280 - posted by littleAdgeCutler, Jan 31, 2008


Read this carefully, and then, hunters, argue your corner - IF YOU CAN !!

www.ifaw.org/ifaw/df...



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It doesn't really apply as the suffering of the hunted animal is not the object.

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