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4 x 4s.

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Message 1 - posted by camelrider, Nov 15, 2005

Am I the only one who loathes 4 x 4s - these gas-guzzling dangerous to pedestrians monsters on the road. The people driving them invariably can't park them properly - look in any supermarket/multi-storey car park. They are often driven by a lone blonde woman with mobile phone clamped permanently to the ear, and sunglasses on top of hair. The meaningless'child on board' notices which are always stuck on the rear window (merely obscure the drivers rear view) - why don't the brats walk to school?
On the motorway, I'm invariably tailgated by these insecure drivers who need to prove the size of their bank balance to the world - have thet no cares as to environment at all? Answers anticipated!
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Message 2 - posted by Alexander Rednaxela, Nov 15, 2005

They also think because they are bigger that they have right of way when cars are parked on their side of the road. I find driving at them and forcing them to pull in or go up onto the pavement works, after all going up the curb is what they brought them for. Im not scared, after all its my right of way and they would be picking up the bill should they scrape past me.

There is no use for these gigantic passenger lorries, its a status symbol nothing more nothing less, they should be taxed heavily and learn that they dont own the roads.

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Message 3 - posted by westderbycop, Nov 15, 2005

Your so right about the 4x4 idiots, I placed a message about them and the types who drive them on the Birmingham board last week as that's where I live (take a look). Nobody replied so I guess from that, it maybe just us that are moaning gits <grr>, Or maybe we are the silent majority either way they should be banned and the drivers strung up <steam>
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Message 4 - posted by Sparky, Nov 15, 2005

I do think it's a little unfair to pick on 4 x 4 owners as a class. Their vehicles are popular because of their versatility and convenience, they stand out from the crowd and any driving errors or misjudgments the owners make are therefore much more noticible than those made by a driver of, say,a Fiat Panda. If you were to analyse the driving behaviour of drivers generally, I think you'd find roughly the same proportion of arrogant, inconsiderate prats and incompetents amongst them.

Sparky (not a 4 x 4 driver).
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Message 5 - posted by DaveDD, Nov 15, 2005

I say chaps, steady on now!
What about those of us who need them for towing and to earn a living in the fields?
Please don't tar us all with the same brush.
I'd much rather moan about those Numptys who drive around with their foglamps on. Magpie syndrome, small brains and a fasination with shiney things!
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Message 6 - posted by camelrider, Nov 15, 2005

Agree with you - they are not for town use. Country people need 4x4s.
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Message 7 - posted by electricvoltaire, Nov 16, 2005

I don't own a 4x4; I don't even like 4x4s but if you've got the dosh and a baby, who are you to say someone can't own one and dangle a sign in the window stating "my testicles are functional".
4x4s make people feel safe in a world where people are generally feeling less safe - go to work in your Fiat Panda, eat your vegetables and lighten up.
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Message 8 - posted by CornishOwl, Nov 16, 2005

Am I the only one who loathes 4 x 4s - these gas-guzzling dangerous to pedestrians monsters on the road. The people driving them invariably can't park them properly - look in any supermarket/multi-storey car park. They are often driven by a lone blonde woman with mobile phone clamped permanently to the ear, and sunglasses on top of hair. The meaningless'child on board' notices which are always stuck on the rear window (merely obscure the drivers rear view) - why don't the brats walk to school?
On the motorway, I'm invariably tailgated by these insecure drivers who need to prove the size of their bank balance to the world - have thet no cares as to environment at all? Answers anticipated!

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I'm not sure it is so much a status symbol on the people you describe as a safety mechanism. A friend of mines wife answers your description perfectly and frankly, Jane should not be driving. So my firend surrounds her with as much metal as he can to make his beloved wife and kids as safe as possible. I mentioned that he is putting everyone else at increased risk but as he points out, you look after your own first.
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Message 9 - posted by JohnfromPaddington, Nov 23, 2005

Am I the only one who loathes 4 x 4s - these gas-guzzling dangerous to pedestrians monsters on the road. The people driving them invariably can't park them properly - look in any supermarket/multi-storey car park. They are often driven by a lone blonde woman with mobile phone clamped permanently to the ear, and sunglasses on top of hair. The meaningless'child on board' notices which are always stuck on the rear window (merely obscure the drivers rear view) - why don't the brats walk to school?
On the motorway, I'm invariably tailgated by these insecure drivers who need to prove the size of their bank balance to the world - have thet no cares as to environment at all? Answers anticipated!

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I totally agree, 4x4s are a waste of time for urban and motorway use. Drivers are far safer in smaller cars ie most renaults that have excelent crumple zones and saftey features. Ok you might not have so much car left after an accident, but it is surley better to have a written of car, but a significantly increased chance of walking away alive or with less injuries. It is a falicy that 4x4s are safer on impact, and do nothing but waste fuel around town and on moterways. They do have a place towing or on poor driving surfaces. People who drive them for immage are rather dull people. Other cars can easily and comfily accomidate tall adults, most 4x4s are not comfy.
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Message 10 - posted by JohnfromPaddington, Nov 23, 2005

Am I the only one who loathes 4 x 4s - these gas-guzzling dangerous to pedestrians monsters on the road. The people driving them invariably can't park them properly - look in any supermarket/multi-storey car park. They are often driven by a lone blonde woman with mobile phone clamped permanently to the ear, and sunglasses on top of hair. The meaningless'child on board' notices which are always stuck on the rear window (merely obscure the drivers rear view) - why don't the brats walk to school?
On the motorway, I'm invariably tailgated by these insecure drivers who need to prove the size of their bank balance to the world - have thet no cares as to environment at all? Answers anticipated!


I'm not sure it is so much a status symbol on the people you describe as a safety mechanism. A friend of mines wife answers your description perfectly and frankly, Jane should not be driving. So my firend surrounds her with as much metal as he can to make his beloved wife and kids as safe as possible. I mentioned that he is putting everyone else at increased risk but as he points out, you look after your own first.

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Jane is no safer in a 4x4, the crumple zones are alful. she is far safer in a smaller car with decent crumple zones air bags ect. Meganes are a good example. I would rather a crushed car and no injuries.
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Message 11 - posted by JohnfromPaddington, Nov 23, 2005

I don't own a 4x4; I don't even like 4x4s but if you've got the dosh and a baby, who are you to say someone can't own one and dangle a sign in the window stating "my testicles are functional".
4x4s make people feel safe in a world where people are generally feeling less safe - go to work in your Fiat Panda, eat your vegetables and lighten up.

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It is a falicy that 4x4s are any safer in an accident. They do not have sufficiant crumple zones to absorb the impact in in accidents.
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Message 12 - posted by tis me Noved_diam, Nov 23, 2005

Am I the only one who loathes 4 x 4s - these gas-guzzling dangerous to pedestrians monsters on the road. The people driving them invariably can't park them properly - look in any supermarket/multi-storey car park. They are often driven by a lone blonde woman with mobile phone clamped permanently to the ear, and sunglasses on top of hair. The meaningless'child on board' notices which are always stuck on the rear window (merely obscure the drivers rear view) - why don't the brats walk to school?
On the motorway, I'm invariably tailgated by these insecure drivers who need to prove the size of their bank balance to the world - have thet no cares as to environment at all? Answers anticipated!


I'm not sure it is so much a status symbol on the people you describe as a safety mechanism. A friend of mines wife answers your description perfectly and frankly, Jane should not be driving. So my firend surrounds her with as much metal as he can to make his beloved wife and kids as safe as possible. I mentioned that he is putting everyone else at increased risk but as he points out, you look after your own first.


Jane is no safer in a 4x4, the crumple zones are alful. she is far safer in a smaller car with decent crumple zones air bags ect. Meganes are a good example. I would rather a crushed car and no injuries.

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They are a meance on the roads. The centre of gravity is not right for cornering. They roll over..at least they do where I live. A real 4 wheel driver is one who lives in 'bush' drives on a dirt road,and the vehical is perminately covered in red dust. Bull bars are there to save the vehical against impact from a kangaroo or wild pig or bull etc. Not some lah de dah individual who couldnt drive around a car park and reverse in to park to save their life...<doh> <doh> <doh>
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Message 13 - posted by galadriel, Nov 23, 2005

I hate them. They are unsafe for both the passengers and the pedestrian who is knocked over by one of them.
4x4s are for drivers who enjoying showing the world that they earn a lot of money!
(I'd much rather have a small expensive sports car !
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Message 14 - posted by CornishOwl, Nov 23, 2005

Am I the only one who loathes 4 x 4s - these gas-guzzling dangerous to pedestrians monsters on the road. The people driving them invariably can't park them properly - look in any supermarket/multi-storey car park. They are often driven by a lone blonde woman with mobile phone clamped permanently to the ear, and sunglasses on top of hair. The meaningless'child on board' notices which are always stuck on the rear window (merely obscure the drivers rear view) - why don't the brats walk to school?
On the motorway, I'm invariably tailgated by these insecure drivers who need to prove the size of their bank balance to the world - have thet no cares as to environment at all? Answers anticipated!


I'm not sure it is so much a status symbol on the people you describe as a safety mechanism. A friend of mines wife answers your description perfectly and frankly, Jane should not be driving. So my firend surrounds her with as much metal as he can to make his beloved wife and kids as safe as possible. I mentioned that he is putting everyone else at increased risk but as he points out, you look after your own first.


Jane is no safer in a 4x4, the crumple zones are alful. she is far safer in a smaller car with decent crumple zones air bags ect. Meganes are a good example. I would rather a crushed car and no injuries.

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That is the sad irony.
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Message 15 - posted by Steve, Nov 24, 2005

Are we talking about all 4x4s or are fiat panda 4x4s ok??
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Message 16 - posted by Guy_on_a_bike, Nov 24, 2005

I think the topic concerns gas-guzzling, road-hogging tart's-tractors rather than off-road bean tins..<laugh>
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Message 17 - posted by Steve, Nov 24, 2005

oh i see,so its not a 4x4 issue. its a size of car thing. or is it a fuel efficiency thing? Nothing in the above postings seem any different from prejudice against bmw/volvo/small car/big car/taxi drivers or even "that idiot that cut me up. As for the "they should be taxed higher" argument,as "gas guzzlers" they must therefore pay a higher cost in fuel duty and are by default taxed higher.

PS i think you will find that the crumple zone is the car in front....
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Message 18 - posted by westderbycop, Nov 24, 2005

donsfan9, If every one like your self i presume ( a large 4x4 yobo) were so inconsiderate to drive around in these gas guzzling heaps, and the two heaps then collided head on both would be equally vulnerable.

The only solution is to tax tax and tax the dam things off the road for people living in cities.
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Message 19 - posted by Steve, Nov 24, 2005

No i don't, however i don't see them as anymore threatening than say a white van,or a taxi.

Both vehicles are larger and less fuel efficient yet i don't see an uproar to tax these unsafe and enviromentally unfiendly vehicles off the roads!

As i see it,it is down to personal taste and the arguments put forward are poorly researched
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Message 20 - posted by JohnfromPaddington, Nov 24, 2005

Are we talking about all 4x4s or are fiat panda 4x4s ok??

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Depends, do you really need a 4x4 panda? Wouldnt a 2 wheel drive panda be more efficiant? Fair enough if you need a cheap off roader, otherwise what is the point? You would be safer and perhaps have more fuel economy in a slightly bigger 2wd than a panda 4x4.
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