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Message 1 - posted by Devon Host John, Oct 31, 2005

An emotive topic which generated lots of messages on our previous message board at www.bbc.co.uk/devon/...

Do you think a total ban of smoking in public is fair?
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Message 2 - posted by TheChaosengine100, Nov 4, 2005

Only in Cornwall.
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Message 3 - posted by U2379384 - alt id 3, Nov 4, 2005

Those of us fortunate enough to have been to Ireland, New York and California and witnessed the hugely successful and publicly acccepted complete bans in public buildings and workplaces know that it is the only way. Why England and a single neanderthal cabinet committee member should set its face against such obvious common sense, and to the enormous disadvantage of the poorest urban underclass is a great pity. Presumably the Government would prefer to save a few votes while the health of their supporters continues to decline.Pubs don't lose business quite the reverse.
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Message 4 - posted by paddingtonofjohhn, Nov 11, 2005

Only in Cornwall.

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Why?
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Message 5 - posted by paddingtonofjohhn, Nov 11, 2005

An emotive topic which generated lots of messages on our previous message board at www.bbc.co.uk/devon/...

Do you think a total ban of smoking in public is fair?

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Totally Fair
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Message 6 - posted by maverick, Nov 11, 2005

As a former heavy smoker,i was a 40 a day man, i think the ban is utterly wrong.

That idiotic police chief in north wales has pulled the same stunt on the cops up there.From 1Jan they will not be allowed to smoke ANYWHERE on police property.

Well i admit i dont like people smoking and dont like the smell of fags but ciggys are legal and,heavily,taxed.And smokers put one hell of a lot of dosh into the economy.

Leave the poor smoker alone.

Or make smoking totally illegal.

If its illegal THEN you can ban smoking in public places.But not untill then.
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Message 7 - posted by tammy-westmidlands, Nov 11, 2005

I think its a bit stupid that the government bring cigarrettes into the country, make people pay loads of tax on it only to then try and ban it. I think the govenment needs to make its mind up.

Anyway, i think there's alot more important things in this country that need to be sorted out than smoking! Its like the govenment want to look like they are doing something constructive so they decided to try and ban smoking in certain places, but really whats so wrong about smoking, people have been doing it for years and it hasnt caused that many problems. Yes i know that people can and do die from smoking but also people who have smoked all their life still live to be quite old.

Im a non smoker and i do undersatnd that its not very nice to have to put up with smoke from another person, especially when eating. But how can they encourage people to smoke and then try to stop them!
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Message 8 - posted by paultopping2003, Nov 11, 2005

I reckon Maverick has just about got it bob on with the statement regarding the legality of smoking. As long as cigarettes are legal, nobody can justify a ban. Its like openly selling guns to anyone but ordering that they can't be fired - no point in owning a gun if it cant be used, and likewise, don't tell me you'll sell me cigarettes, take the huge tax that I pay for them, then turn round and tell me I can't smoke them<steam>

AND, the anti-smokers can like it or not, but their trusty vehicles that they all drive around in will kill the planet a lot sooner than I can manage to do it with a cigarette (if you believe the secondary smoke tripe at all) <steam><steam>!!
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Message 9 - posted by TheChaosengine100, Nov 11, 2005

Surely it should be about equal rights, the right for a non smoker to enjoy fresh air untainted by smoke, and the right of a smoker to enjoy frequenting pubs and eateries whilst smoking.
Alot of establishments have signs up saying "no smoking please" and only ignorant smokers would ignore those.
I'm a smoker by the way. But I reserve the right to give up smoking without notice.
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Message 10 - posted by DaveDD, Nov 11, 2005

We used to smoke 40 a day, each, and both gave up when we lost our baby daughter due to underdeveloped lungs. She didn't have a choice, but most other people do.
If people choose to smoke in an eating area, i won't stay there. EVERYBODY knows what smoking does, so if they still choose to smoke then i don't think they'll take much notice of a ban. Can you honestly see somebody being arrested and removed before they light up, because, once lit, the damage is done.
Right, that said, i'll get me coat! Ps where will all the lost tax revenue come from? <erm>
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Message 11 - posted by TheChaosengine100, Nov 11, 2005

Dave, sorry to hear of your loss. As for the tax gap from outlawing smoking altogether, income tax probably.
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Message 12 - posted by devonian, Nov 11, 2005

Hi Dave

So sorry to hear about your daughter. I lost my Mum to lung cancer in 2001, she was 65 (I was 31) and had been a smoker since the age of 11. Personally, I hate smoking and always have. It used to be very difficult whenever we went out with Mum because we always had to find somewhere she could smoke. Obviously I was used to it, but it didn't mean I liked it. :-(
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Message 13 - posted by DaveDD, Nov 11, 2005

Thank you both. It was 13yrs ago and we like to think lots of good came from her. We gave up, have got a fantastic son and daughter and much more.
Enough said now, they say it's only going to rain till miday tomorrow! I'll believe that when it happens! ;-)
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Message 14 - posted by TheLocalYokel, Nov 11, 2005

It's a spurious argument to say that because cigarettes are not illegal per se adults can smoke them anywhere they wish. Driving cars is legal, so long as the driver has the proper documentation, but it doesn't mean he/she can drive the car where or how he/she wants.

I don't smoke, never have, I regard it as a foul habit. However, I am not a dedicated anti-smoker. If adults want to smoke let them. If they're daft enough to pay a voluntary tax that's their business, and it might save me a bit of money.

Having said this I would hope that most smokers have the good manners to realise that many people do find the effects of their addiction offensive, and that they confine their putting bits of burning paper into their mouths at least to places where food is not being served and consumed.
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Message 15 - posted by U2426416 - alt id 6, Nov 13, 2005

Or where there are children.
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Message 16 - posted by Henthitchen, Nov 17, 2005

Ah,yes, another ban! Why don't we also ban unhealthy food, people with strong body odour, and about anything else which upsets members of this most oppressive government?

Some of us may think that it is up to the individual what they do, and that that should be the philosophy behind new laws. Just because someone is a member of the 'urban underclass' doesn't surely mean they need to be controlled by the state?
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Message 17 - posted by Yodell, Nov 17, 2005

You've spelt pubic wrong and no-one else has noticed it - how funny <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
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Message 18 - posted by TheChaosengine100, Nov 17, 2005

Ah,yes, another ban! Why don't we also ban unhealthy food, people with strong body odour, and about anything else which upsets members of this most oppressive government?

Some of us may think that it is up to the individual what they do, and that that should be the philosophy behind new laws. Just because someone is a member of the 'urban underclass' doesn't surely mean they need to be controlled by the state?

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can you define " urban underclass " please.
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Message 19 - posted by U2379384 - alt id 3, Nov 17, 2005

'Urban Underclass'? Well, simply put, people like me.No 'A'levels,state education,renting my bookless home,less than the average wage,no pension or private health care and one second hand car.Watch soaps,vote BNP or New Labour,monarchist,no attainments or ambitions,resentment of those who have,clinging to white British racial and institutional traditions.Read only the Star or at a push the Mail.
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Message 20 - posted by TheChaosengine100, Nov 17, 2005

oh..... normal then.
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