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comment by sirbobwallett Feb 1, 2008is there no way to keep one thread open to us regulars? Come on, you don't expect us to be able to work all day do you?
comment by Crimson_Blade Feb 1, 2008yeah they should I agree lets start a picket line haha!
comment by Syd Feb 1, 2008Yeah I agree with rogershoes
comment by Ziltoid Feb 1, 2008I haven't been here that long, it's a real shame to see it go.
comment by fingerchimp Feb 1, 2008well butter my potato cakes!
at last all my meandering pointless musings will be lost to the world, buried deep in a defunct server in the arizona desert only to be discovered by later generations of a primitive post-apocalyptic civilisation who may chance upon my ramblings and use them to form a new gonzo religion.
collective which occupied the parts of my mind that my job could not, all those years ago (3 or 4, not sure) and gave me all sorts of interaction with other simple fools and debauched aesthetes, where we argued and tussled with the chaff thrown up by the combine harvester of popular culture to find the odd grain of wheat, the odd nuggetty kernel of iron pyrite to chew over and dissect until it became meaningless like a word you have repeated too many times, or a metaphor you have stretched to membrane transparency in a desperate attempt to shoe-horn in as many references, both low brow and high brow, to prove what a bone feed renaissance man you are, while all the time attempting to maintain an ironic hipster stance enabling you to quickly distance yourself from any comment or viewpoint you espoused which would later be pulled up like a stinky old coffin full of bleached white thought corpse of misfired synapses and branch brittle dendrites and used to prove what you knew all along, you're inconsistent and contrary, full of poorly thought out arguments and aggressive posturing, collective that saw me through a formative period of my life, from call centre to office to call centre to office once again, through girlfriends useless and comical, through
relationships doomed and ultimately succesful, through freak folk back into heavy rock and into the punk and hardcore of my youth.
selah collective, selah.
comment by Syd Feb 1, 2008Nice one chimp.
Just one Q. What does espoused mean?
comment by egon Feb 1, 2008espouse
1. choose and follow; as of theories, ideas, policies, strategies or plans; "She followed the feminist movement"; "The candidate espouses Republican ideals"
Damn shame the site's going- i may not have beena round much for the last three years as a result of finishing university and having toa ctually work for a living rather than buma round the library all day, but I love this site. Without winning thema s prizes, I would never habve seen One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, or read "road to Perdition" and my life would have been that little bit poorer.
I remember a collective meet-up I attended once- just about five or six of us I think, mooching round London. had a coffee, went to the national gallery. Can't rmember who was there- shrinkwrapped was I think, and currybet and astrotomato. And of course the delightful Rowan joined us for a coffee before heading off for a prior engagement.
comment by egon Feb 1, 2008Frankie Rovberto may have been at the meet-up as well,a ctually.
comment by badgirlswirlgirl Feb 1, 2008Hi Collective Team,
I joined Collective when I was sixteen and in a really weird way, it had quite an affect on me!
The site slowly really raised my interest in writing, leading to a newspaper column, and now I work full time as a reporter and run my own fanzine! So in it's own way Collective really steered me in the right direction.
I can't imagine what I'd be doing now if I wasn't running the fanzine, I love every minute of it. (btw if anyone wants to take a look head to www.myspace.com/doncasterlivemag)
It's going to be a shame to see it go, writing that music feature was one of the best experiences I've had!
What are we going to do without Collective? Where else will I go when I need career advice?!
comment by breaker_of_beats Feb 1, 2008Things I'll miss about this place:
Sunsetbeach's blogs- humane, witty, interesting and thoughtful
Amir's reviews- often of bog standard indie stuff, but passionate nonetheless
The Quikky/ Spinky gamerknowledge
Medibot's often surreal entries
That madman who posted stuff about aten and Egyptian lore (anyone remember that stuff?). Can't remember the dude's name- I never settled on whether it was real or a wind up.
Rowan's calm, measured presence
upsetmonkey's insane rant's- illiterate fanboys have seldom been so entertaining, if infurating to try and make sense of.
things I won't miss
- chatroom style users. That monkeyboy lucas and his gibberings. Always reminded me of Harry Hill's impression of Professor Robert Winston- "I'm discussing my latest idiotic escapades and poor taste under a spurious defence of 'cultural discussion', but really I'm supposed to be at work'.
-the occasional cloying cliquiness that made it intimidating at times for new users
Still, all the best for all users in their futures. If anyone's on myspace (hell, I know it's all Facebook these days, but I'm too rock n' roll), my page on there is
With regret and also hope,
Gonna miss you all.
comment by amir Feb 1, 2008"Amir's reviews- often of bog standard indie stuff, but passionate nonetheless"
I hope that in some small way, I might have given people new insight into old records, or more appreciation of the less celebrated stuff on the shop shelves...
I am thinking of setting up a website with all my reviews and more in due course, if anyone's interested I will put the link up on the Facebook group.
comment by Quikky Feb 1, 2008*breaker - that mad dude's name was ravermcc. I f*cking loved that guy. Never did find out what happened to Tutankhamen.
comment by breaker_of_beats Feb 2, 2008ravermcc, that's the guy. His stuff was great. Was it a wind up? Was it for real? I'll never know now.
comment by -kawada- Feb 2, 2008I haven't been particularly active on the site for over a year but I did get alot out of it in the first two years. I joined Collective shortly after turning sixteen which more or less coincided with me getting properly interested in music and world cinema. releaseroger's advice and buyers guides were an invaluable catalyst for expanding my tastes in music. I bought King Crimson's Larks Tongues In Aspic on the strength of what he'd written and it remains my favourite album. There's plenty more albums I might not have gotten around to half as quickly, had I not consulted his vast archives. Obviously there's other members who've pointed me in some good directions who I won't go on to list, needless to say it's been great to chat with like minded people about cultural interests. I also remember having some deeper conversations back when I joined and even though I doubt I'd agree with half of what I've written these days, at least collective was a place where intelligent discussion was the norm. I can't imagine many forums containing threads about solipsy for example.
It's nice to know my 30 or so reviews are still going to there, even though many of the earlier ones are poorly written. I hope at least a few people found them helpful. I won a couple of CD's and a copy of Haruki Murakami's Kafka On The Shore as well, so thanks for that.
Good luck to all the team, I think you did a great job and cheers to the members who contributed to the site.
comment by davehouse Feb 3, 2008well, i havent been here for a loooong time but back in the day I was a hardcore collectivite! And when I heard via facebook (theres an 'unofficial bbc collective group') that Collective is closing, I thought I'd drop back one last time.
Collective was a unique and inspirational community which I got a huge amount from. The level of intelligent discussion was a welcome break from the inanity of many websites, but there was always a good measure of silliness to keep things fun and balanced!
Big respect to Row and the editorial team for doing such a good job over the years, and indeed to all the wonderful folks I met along the way.
Bysey bye, and thanks for the fond memories.
comment by liquidindian Feb 3, 2008Bah. Although it's been a long time since I posted, I popped back here now and again to get me updated with worthwhile music and films and books and games. A real pity.
comment by zettel Feb 4, 2008Zettel
If anyone has any interest in my reviews. They are all posted on writewords.org.uk. Look under writers forums/FilmTvRadio.
Or check out zettel in the archive.
Thanks to all who've read the reviews in the past.
Very sorry the site is closing. When wil the BBC realise that Digital TV is not the only media or PSB game in town?
Zettel - Keith Farman
comment by Crimson_Blade Feb 4, 2008Well since I pay my licence fee, I reckon we technically fund collective so we should decede if it goes or not and self moderate it lol
comment by sirbobwallett Feb 4, 2008Just answer this question Rowan. Is the collective closing down due to the abuse Jim Rossignal recieved over his review? If Daniel E had have stayed, would the Collective?
comment by rowan Feb 4, 2008sirbobwallett: no.
So nice to see so many old faces
The best of cinema in the UK from 2002 to 2008.