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comment by releaseroger    May 9, 2006
Well, I play slide a lot which I still find a bugger to perfect. I want that Johnny Winter type of slide capability. I'm years off it I reckon! Must drink more vodka.

Acoustically, there's a few decent tunings I use (DADGAD, DADFAD etc although the slide tuning of open G is cool for acoustic DGDGBD, give it a whirl!)

As for rawk, well I use the usual suspects of Dropped D or B or be really dull and play in standard!

I've never been the fastest of players, always more a blues player so tunings make life a little bit easier. I don't go in for all that sweep picking widdly-wee stuff so it's not a technique I ever perfected. Tapping is fun though!
I've never planned a song in my life, i kinda let it take on a life of it's own. I work in segments by turning riffs around or changing key. I play a lot of single note stuff which fills up quite a bit of time, I love melody and harmony so that's what I concentrate on.

Sorry guys, a little off topic.
Carry on,

Songwriters rule ok biggrin
RR
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comment by fingerchimp    May 9, 2006
i play a lot in DADGAD and DADGBD and also use DADGF#AD and DGDGAD and DGDF#AD quite a lot too...more weirdly i find CGCFCF quite good for much lower range acoustic stuff...nick drake and elliott smith seem to get into these registers on acoustic. some stuff i use is just experimentation like CACF#CE, things like that. i like those weird augmented chords, seconds and stuff like that, it works in finger style but would probably sound awful strummed. im a right hand player really, theres nothing very fancy in my fret work. ive never harboured any desire to be yngwie malmsteen. the main advantage with detuning the guitar as a songwriter is that it enables me to hear my stuff as something original and not to constantly be thinking what other songs my new song sounds just like.
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comment by releaseroger    May 9, 2006
Yep, I hear that.
Fingerstyle isn't something I was never very good at. (Either that or I just haven't put in the time to learn properly)
Fret work is where I kinda shine in respect of blues playing although I do fancy myself as a riff machine at times with metal stuff.

David gilmour is my main influence. I loved the way he filled time with very little yet it still sounded unique. At the crux of it he's a blues player and that's where I'm at really.

You can do so much with a guitar without widdly-wee-ing over the fretboard. That stuff impresses me because I know it's hard to do but I figured out long ago that It wasn't my style. You gotta know the limit of your abilities in respect to fast playing but there's more to it than just "look at me, ma!" widdly-widdly-widdly-widdly- etc

Might nick some of your tunings though so cheers for that! ok
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singers vs songwriters post 44
comment by fingerchimp    May 9, 2006
i started finger picking as a fortunate coincidence. at 19 i basically stopped playing really, totally dissillusioned with electric guitar, and started to dj hip hop instead. when i was 20 i moved in with three other guitar players and one of them was into bob dylan, donovan, CSNY and that sort of stuff. i started to mess around on the acoustic again but couldnt play that americana stuff without being constantly aware that im a rural middle class white boy. and then i heard the king of rural middle class white boys nick drake doing his own thing in his own way and i was totally taken with it. it took me a good few weeks to get my fingers working but now i pick with three fingers and a thumb and my little finger is responsive too. it is just practise. id like to get into slide playing, whats best, glass or metal?
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comment by releaseroger    May 9, 2006
I don't think there's a distinct choice in slide.
Glass is smoother but it can produce a dull tone at times whereas metal slides are bright in tone and (for me at least) easier to use. Glass is the traditional weapon of choice. (It's not bottleneck for nothing!)

I use a steel slide and it works for me. I've also got a glass one but I can't really get on with it. The metal works best for the Stratocaster I use for slide.

I've ordered a brass slide to see if that has a difference. They're all pretty cheap (about 5-15) so you can play around to see which one suits you.
You'll also make a horrendous noise at first but stick with it. Try to work out a pressure balance between string and slide. Too hard produces a 'clunking' sound and too soft sounds like you're shaving an albatross.
Good luck!
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comment by fingerchimp    May 10, 2006
another tuning i forgot, used by steven stills on 4+20 by CSNY...DADDAD, you can also use DGDDAD, it probably works a treat on slide, good for drone type stuff, the G string will handle being dropped that far quite well, especially if you use a capo on 2nd fret to make it a kind of open E
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comment by The Digital Ninja    May 10, 2006
I'm sure the goo goo dolls used DADDAD on Iris...
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singers vs songwriters post 48
comment by releaseroger    May 10, 2006
Once again,
Cheers for your tunings!

I am now fully tuned up. Now all I've got to do is get some talent! biggrin
RR
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comment by oggystoop    Feb 14, 2008
Although i am also a singer songwriter, there is something obscene about the 850 million quid that Paul McCartney has. Like the premiership footballers they get paid far too much so, when it comes to dinosaurs like Cliff Richard or Elton John or Rod Stewart - I think the sooner they are paid less the better. ( and can we get them on the radio less too please ).
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