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comment by starmie Feb 23, 2005was never a happy experience, apparently.
comment by ladymidnight Feb 23, 2005Why Starmie? Did he spend all the time trying to have a coversation with the turkey or was he desperate for all the fat to congeal and kept getting under the wife's feet in the kitchen?
Go away Joseph and play with your hat like a good conceptual artist!
comment by starmie Feb 23, 2005No one was happy because he always made his presents felt
comment by The Exploding Boy Feb 24, 2005Lol!
But what is this? Blocks of stone placed randomly around an empty room? Bits of copper piping leant up against bare walls?
Heavy man. Looks like it took all of two seconds thought, and is so far up its own ass it can actually see out of its mouth.
I hate this kind of stuff, and to call it art, to me at least, is to ridicule the form.
comment by generhate Mar 6, 2005I saw the Beuys show a couple of weeks back and i really think you have to witness it in person to be able to comment on it. The imposing nature of some of the structures and materials he uses cannot be felt from looking at page or screen.
Having said this I am not always over-keen on his works themselves. For me it is as much, if not more, about the ideas behind the work. That is what fascinates me about Beuys. The way he built a whole unique intellectual world of his own and his own utterly idiosyncratic visual language with which to express this world. There is so much hope in his ideas and it is a shame that there are not more creative people like him around today. Our world might be a more hopeful place. He held passionate beliefs in green politics and the power of creativity to change people and therefore society. He believed everyone was an artist, creativity was not limited to the so-called 'arts' in his mind. Surely this is nothing but positive and should be encouraged... ???
I love what he stood for more than i do some of his work.
comment by magic_roundabout_ Mar 8, 2005i know what you mean about " he believed everyone was an artist, creativity was not limited to the so-called 'arts' in his mind" i agree with that. i find beuys work fascianting and once i had a lecture on it i understood more and learnt to appricate his work.
comment by eppendorf Mar 14, 2005The trouble with Beuys is that you HAVE to have an explanation before you can get anything at all out of his art. The retrospective was tedious and academic, and it was a mercy killing when I was asked to leave by a barmy looking security man who said my bag was "too big".
comment by generhate Mar 26, 2005was your bag big enough to fit a granite monolith in? is that why he asked you to leave do you think?
i thought the retrospective was as representative as it could have been.. which to be honest is what i generally think of the tate.. i remember feeling similarly about the brancusi one.. anyone see that? with such a broad spectrum of ideas and mediums as Beuys' catalogue it is pretty impossible to give an overview wouldnt you say?
i think the exhibition should be about being exposed to his ideas and taking them away and thinking about them and maybe even developing them.
in disagree that you need an explanation of Beuys' work before seeing it and being able to appreciate it.. i would argue it is after seeing it that any explanation becomes beneficial... and what is wrong with that? the guy had big ideas that was the point... he expressed them often via vast installations... it doesnt just exist on this level of theory .. i think the sculptures in themselves can be pretty impressive....
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