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comment by liquidindian Feb 26, 2005"If you've seen the advert for Mercenaries on TV, then you'll understand why non-gamers think gamers are idiots."
I haven't seen this. Is it pretty insulting to the intelligence?
comment by fingerchimp Feb 26, 2005yeah its pretty mindless..its just wish fulfillment for the kind of kids who get picked last in football and grow into men who fantasise about the borg queen
comment by kendo, man! Feb 28, 2005Should there be limits set on massive multi player games? Should the servers act more responsabley?
Most single player games have a definate story arch. When its done you can go back for a laugh but thats all. The GTA games are proof of that.
Online play is open ended though, there is no end in sight. I can understand whyb people play them so much. I however do not have an addictive personality, so I son't get the endless involvment.
Should there be some self imposed limit, or is that a crime against freedom of expression?
comment by fingerchimp Feb 28, 2005i think thats exactly the type of game im talking about..something lke half-life where the same scenario is repeated endlessly with no objective but to survive as long as possible and an infinite number of lives..there is no natural end to a game like and they are definitley compulsive
comment by KomKid Feb 28, 2005Games like socom only exist online making them more addictive. there would never be any chance of limits on servers due to the fct that companies like B.T would not get as much money
comment by Captain-Porkpie Mar 4, 2005
i find that games are only really addictive if they are really immersive and beleivable, like the San Andreas game. i picked up the controller and sat playing solidly for about 8 hours before i realised how sad i was being. But with an immersive game, you can plunge yourself into it and really feel for teh characters in it, and you can forget all the worries from your life.
comment by KomKid Mar 4, 2005I have to agree with you on that, also games on the internet like on coffeebreak are great
comment by KingsleyMarshall Mar 7, 2005It strikes me that as the heart of these issues is the perception that gaming is less valid than other media - whether that's reading, TV, film, or other hobbies for that matter.
Of a survey released last year by Down Under Ingame Advertising, taking in 500 European, active male gamers from 22 countries, a couple of the more interesting findings weret hat games were played mainly during the prime time television slot (8pm to 10pm), and were played as much in a social context as individually at a ratio of 54% to 45%.
Why is an eight hour session on GTA: SA any worse than battering a really good book over a weekend?
comment by fingerchimp Mar 7, 2005id really love to know..it clearly needs some research because nobody has come up with a plausible reasoning yet. it is odd really that gaming is percieved as such a waste of time..perhaps it is a form of "play" and that is seen as a necessarily juvenile pass-time..however this doesnt seem to apply to the world of sports and music. the adult gaming market is not a new phenomenon so it is odd that perception has not caught up.
comment by KingsleyMarshall Mar 7, 2005I've raised this before elsewhere here, but have always felt that the interaction involved in gaming can much more rewarding than the passive experience of simply watching TV (particularly bad TV).
The modern gaming experience is often a social one, with games machines in the front room, and multiplayer games everywhere. Nothing quite beats two's up on Burnout, the collaborative modes of some RPG games, or even cheering friends along through the streets of San Andreas.
Beats Emmerdale any day.
comment by KomKid Mar 8, 2005As Game are becoming More Complex many other forms of media have become watered down. Is this a sign ?
comment by virtualRon Mar 21, 2005I played Capcom's Resident Evil 4 on the GameCube last night in the dark for about 6 hours non-stop.
Yes I do feel like a zombie today, eyes bleeding, body stiff, and unable to string two words together.
It will pass, and it is a small price to pay for such spectacular piece of entertainment.
What do I gain for them 6 hours lost sleep, nothing?
Nothing except a wonderful unforgettable experience rather like a good holiday, (Except one where I was fighting hordes of zombies and some gigantic monsters)
An experience especially designed and tailored for maximum effect by talented, creative, artists, musicians, programmers and mathematicians whose minds have combined to create something highly entertaining rather like playing the lead in a big budget horror movie.
Not all games are this good, in my opinion such games are created only once every couple of years and therefore I don't need to play all the trash, and there is a lot of it.
As an adult, I realise now that these games are dangerous. I will play like this once or twice a year and I do feel the effects.
But kids wont have the self control to take them selves away,
They wont develop social skills by going to go see their friends or to go play football etc
They wont be inclined to make time to find the enjoyment in learning about science, or learning to draw, paint or learn an instrument or write stories
(The very skills that are needed to develop these games - the death of games caused by games? maybe not)
The parents will think its brilliant because the kids are quite and they don't have to take them on days out. The parent them selves don't have to interact with the kids or show them what's in the wider world.
Oops this turned into a bit of an essay Ill finish now.
We, know the truth, some of these games are great and sometimes unforgettable entertaniment, and one or two may be even inspirational to budding artists programmers and musicaians, but parents should be wary that letting their kids play for extended lengths of time will stunt the kids development resulting in restricted opportunities in later life.
Anyway the parents want a go too.
comment by TRYATHLETE Mar 22, 2005can't see the point myself - I'd rather be out doing something than watching or playing a simulation on the gogglebox. but my boyfriend was up till 2am last night playing his latest computer game. the game was switched on straight after dinner and only paused for toilet and crisp/juice breaks.
odd boy. would be ok if he was'nt verging on 30 !!!
comment by Daniel Etherington Mar 23, 2005hmph. What's wrong with playing games in your thirties? ;-)
comment by KingsleyMarshall Mar 31, 2005This kind of encapsulates gaming for me...http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/599/599411p1.html?f...
comment by Daniel Etherington Mar 31, 2005hehe. Saw that yesterday, I can relate to that.
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