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comment by llamarama Dec 7, 2004I haven't had a chance to see the Turner Prize exhibition yet, but watching TV this morning, I realised I already knew some of Jeremy Deller's work. And I'm really really glad he's won this year's Turner Prize. One art critic was saying that he doesn't see Deller as the kind of artist to isolate himself in a studio, but the kind to get out there amongst people, engaging with communities, working on and with mainstream media, and generally opening up a wider debate on cultural identity. That can only be a Good Thing.
comment by rowan Dec 7, 2004He's certainly an interesting artist to have won - http://www.tate.org.uk/britain/turnerprize/deller....
Did anyone else watch any of Channel 4's coverage last night? How did you find it and Matt Collins? Not to be mean to him but I wondered whether it's time for them to find a new face of contemporary art.
comment by ncdane Dec 7, 2004I know I felt sorry for the guy. He clearlly didn't seem to understand half the stuff, and yet he was trying to make it witty and interesting.He was allright in a six out of ten type way. Let the artists, let the work,video images and the like do the talking. He seems an amiable enough person, but maybe a Grayson Perry or another artist could present these things. Allthough that may end in a sneer fest bitching one piece after the next, they could talk through the process better.I loved Dellers' image of the bats in motion, it was a winner for that reason alone.
Shame those images of the African Fabrics didn't win though, but everyone cannot win.
comment by rowan Dec 7, 2004Usually he's a fairly insightful critic - he is actually an artist too, although I've only ever seen his own work on his own shows... it just seemed a touch hammed up to me.
comment by Spinky Dec 7, 2004Someone should definitely give him instructions on how to use a microphone - did he manage an interview without missing half of what was said? It was funny when he got a look from Grayson Perry for asking why all artists needed gimmicks tho.
As for the winner, I like Jeremy Deller's stuff, but I thought the documentary that actually won was the least interesting of the things in his room.
comment by rowan Dec 8, 2004So true! On both counts.
I found the Memory Bucket film stood out as very different from the rest of Dellers work and really didn't seem to work in the same way, so it sort of confused me. Whereas his other work is to do with creating someting or a situation that looks at local social history in a different way, Memory Bucket was a documentary realy.
comment by The Daily Growl Dec 8, 2004Interesting. I likes Deller's stuff the least out of all the artists up for the prize, but then I was in a bit of a rush and only got to see a small piece of Memory Bucket. Wasn't struck by his other stuff though. I liked Kutlug Ataman's stuff the best. Need to go back and give Memory Bucket and Un Ballo in Maschera some more time...
comment by rowan Dec 8, 2004I always find that that's one of the issues with films in galleries that have a beginning and an end. I rarely have time to watch them completely - it's fine if they're intended to be dipped into but sometimes I feel there's no point showing a film that's over 10 minutes which the artist wants people to watch all of. When I saw it the sound wasn't really working...
comment by amir Dec 8, 2004Art, what's it all about?
No, seriously, Deller is very good, I think he got wrote off as a bit of a prankster earlier in his career (ill fated collaborations with the ressurrected KLF didn't help), but I thought his map of Acid House was actually quite good, as was his re-enactment of the Orgreave incident, which is quite close to my heart, being a good ol' Sheffield lad and all.
comment by rowan Dec 9, 2004I thought his map was great too and love lots of his ideas - they seem subtle but thought provoking and generally involving.
Talking about the KLF, keep your eyes peeled for a James Cauty exhibiton I'm covering tomorrow.
comment by The Daily Growl Dec 9, 2004Yeah - the thing about films in galleries is that you never get to watch them properly, even if you stay for the whole thing. Inevitably you'll turn up, start watching, then stay there till it comes round the the bit where you started again. Probably don't get the best of the film, but what else can you do?
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