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comment by Mister Savage    Nov 28, 2003
Hey! I know Fragile Alliegence! I almost put it on my list! I used to build up one asteroid loads, put an engine on it and drive it around the galaxy kicking ass! I loved that game! I'm just amazed someone else has heard of it! The only reason why it isn't on my list is because I prefer Stars.

I used to be a PC gamer and nothing else. The Megadrive was the last console I owned before the PS2 so I missed out on the whole playstation 'revolution' thing. I miss PC games - they always had more depth - but when I went to uni I wanted something I didn't have to worry about upgrading all the time, etc... But anyway, good list!
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comment by instadeth    Nov 29, 2003
Frontier (Obviously, or Elite the greatest game ever made), Datastorm, Hunter
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comment by instadeth    Nov 29, 2003
The greatest gane ever made is Elite.

There is no question or argument about it.

How can some people say that super mario carts is better? Thats really weird?
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comment by banjo_ted (aka ben.p)    Nov 29, 2003
Well, Instadeth, surely it all depends what you're into and enjoy. Maio Kart may be weird to you, but pretending to fly through space with f**k all to do and nowt to look at it is weird to me!

Not really, I'm just playing the protagonist (before people heap abuse upon me). I'm just trying to illustrate that ones mans junk is another mans gold.
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comment by Mister Savage    Nov 29, 2003
What? You're playing a protagonist? Well done!
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comment by Bagpuss    Nov 30, 2003
I'm going to look like a bit of an old fogey here, but in no particular order:

Head Over Heels. Complete classic. 3D isometric puzzle gaming action at its best. Head jumps high, can change his direction whilst jumping and fires doughnuts at the bad guys. Heels runs fast and doesn't scare puppies. Combine the two for a fast, high-jumping creature that scares puppies.

Dizzy. And all the sequels. Except Treasure Island because you only get one life and I keep dying.

Tomb Raider. More puzzles. Frustratingly addictive, or possibly addictively frustrating.

Dungeon Keeper. Okay, I just like being evil. The names of the places are great; the narration is just dripping with contempt when it enunciates things like "Fluffy" and "Shadygrove".

Lemmings. Sheer puzzly class.

Skooldaze / Bak 2 skool. More Speccy classics. Again I like being evil, catapulting the teachers and getting the class swot blamed.

Is that five yet?
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comment by pennywisetheclown    Nov 30, 2003
i can't believe that no-one has said zelda - occarina of time yet! (or have they? i can't remember...).

If it wasn't for Zelda 64, you would not have games like GTA3/vice city. The game totally revolutionised games as we know them, with its free roaming style - and it's attention to detail. That game presented a supurbly realised reality that offers a truly deep and rewarding gaming experience! In fact, I think that game comes as close to perfection as any game can.

So give credit where credit is due!

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comment by Mister Savage    Nov 30, 2003
Well, hang on - I don't agree there. GTA 1 came out in 1997 and Zelda: Ocarina of Time came out in 1998. GTA Vice City is basically GTA 1 in 3D and with four previous games to learn from! Zelda is a revolutionary series of games, but had a very small effect - if any - on the game dynamic of Vice City...
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comment by Spinky    Nov 30, 2003
An aside re : Frontier - while it was OK, everyone who I know who had it played it for a while (usually a week), but then got bored and used the "extra cash" cheat / bug to give themselves the best ship in the universe and cruise around destroying everything.
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comment by Phoenix_Dfire    Dec 1, 2003
My Top Ten.

10. Jedi Knight II – Just for the Light-sabre fights.

9. Hostile Waters- Good Plot, Great Game. An Arcade/RTS with swearing !!

8. Dues Ex. A FPS/RPG cyberpunk adventure, which got you playing until three in the morning.

7. Tron 2.0 – I waited twenty years to drive a light cycle.

6. System Shock 1 and 2 – Probably the Scariest Game I have ever played. Not just BOO! Scary, but the plot scared the hell out me.

5. Lords of Midnight/Doomdarks Revenge. Probably two of the most atmospheric fantasy war-games and people are updating it on the PC Constantly. (Check out the Lords of MidnightYahoo Group) if your interested.

4. I-War, another very atmospheric immersive game. Although mission based and frustratingly difficult in places, it took space simulators to a new level. Added real physics and made you use your brain, not just your blasters.

3. Baldur’s Gate 1 and 2 – For anybody who played DnD as a kid, this game was the one to play.

2. Elite, I lost so many hours of my youth becoming Elite on the Spectrum.

1. The X-wing series, anybody who saw the original Star Wars wanted these games. Made me actually want a PC.
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comment by Mister Savage    Dec 1, 2003
I loved the X-Wing games - you could just spend hours playing them and lose any perception of reality by the end. The mark of a great game. Also, Baldurs Gate 1 & 2 - I loved them, but never finished either of them. They were just too long - I'd get about 2/3rds of the way through before moving on to other things...
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comment by kendo, man!    Dec 2, 2003
I only played Baldours Gate with a mate of mine. Two player on the PS2, makes it a bit more fun.

As for X-wing, They just keep getting better and better, flying through the death star. It's like I am 6 again.
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comment by Mister Savage    Dec 2, 2003
Baldurs Gate on the PS2 was fun, but it was a totally different game to the PC ones. It wasn't even similar...except there were baddies in it and a place called Baldurs Gate...

X-Wing alliegence was great - but hard. Very Hard. I prefer being in control of a character that isn't in the films, only hearing rumours of the film plots along your travels... it makes it seem more epic, somehow.
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comment by Rock Fish    Dec 2, 2003
I'm as surprised as you that it got played by more than one person. But yeah, it was great. Makes me want to go and find it again and see if I can't get it working on XP...

Me, I generally grabbed as many asteroids as I could, blasting the hell outta things with my fleets of ships. (Chronic ship builder)
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comment by Mister Savage    Dec 2, 2003
I've just remembered all the missiles - that was great, just watching them launching from your base and then tracking their blips across the map until you finally saw them wreaking havok on an unsuspecting enemy...mwa ha ha ha ha...
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comment by kendo, man!    Dec 2, 2003
Surely you can download Elite by now?

It must be out there in the ether somewere. If not, why not?
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comment by TIGER in COMBAT    Dec 2, 2003
Anyone remember the BBC master Star Wars game that had you flying an x-wing towards the death star while shooting tie fighters, then if you survived the tie fighters you went into the trench on your way to the exhaust port shooting the turrets and dodging the obstructions.

In many ways it seems as though it was the prelude to X-Wing.

The graphics were very much like Elite on the BBC, but with a bit more detail.
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comment by Mister Savage    Dec 2, 2003
I do get vague memories of this game, but I have never played it... It's nice to try and pinpoint the humble beginnings of a great series or genre, though. Perhaps there's another thread there?
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comment by banjo_ted (aka ben.p)    Dec 2, 2003
I was standing at the bus stop today when I suddenly realised why you've been heckling me, MrSavage. OK, OK, I meant ANTAGONIST, as opposed to protagonist.

So playing the ANTAGONIST, I'll re-iterate my point about Elite being boring and Mario Kart being fun.

Although these views don't necessarily represent my own.
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comment by sunsetbeach    Dec 2, 2003
Yes, you can download Elite now.
Playing it after all these years was like eating a banana when I was expecting an apple. And I still hated manual docking.
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