http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/betsanpowys/2008/11/never.html en-gb 30 Thu 07 Jan 2010 10:25:13 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/betsanpowys/2008/11/never.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/betsanpowys/2008/11/never.html?page=17#comment6 If pembrokeshire is the best example of a non political council then god help us all! Chief Executive paid £160,000 plus, over half of all services rated "could do better", dodgy planning consent for the council leader etc, etc. Sat 22 Nov 2008 10:58:25 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/betsanpowys/2008/11/never.html?page=14#comment5 The Plaid agenda is as pointed out in #2 "to deliver a clear programme of policies, many of which are ideologically difficult for Labour to stomach".It is not just Labour who find Plaid's agenda difficult to stomach - the majority of Wales seem to oppose Plaid's political view.Labour must be looking for a way out, bonding with the Lib,Dems and relegating Plaid to opposition has to be a tempting prospect.However - most successful local government seems to be delivered by Independents.Take Pembrokeshire excellent service delivery and the lowest Council Tax in Wales.The further we can keep political machinations and intrigue away from front line delivery of services the better. The last thing we need is PR in local councils. Tue 18 Nov 2008 12:22:49 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/betsanpowys/2008/11/never.html?page=11#comment4 #4It hadn't gone unnoticed, don't worry, did you see the word 'smile'? Tue 18 Nov 2008 11:12:00 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/betsanpowys/2008/11/never.html?page=8#comment3 Urr, brynt41, Kirsty Williams's comment on her 'biggest mistake' was supposed to be a light-hearted joke. Peter Black is one of her main backers. We do know who he will be voting for in the leadership contest - her. Tue 18 Nov 2008 09:41:57 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/betsanpowys/2008/11/never.html?page=5#comment2 #2"Plaid have gone into government for a purpose - to deliver a clear programme of policies, many of which are ideologically difficult for Labour to stomach."I had come to the conclusion years ago that Labour has no ideology, other than to get power and to keep it, at any price. That was Blair's most positive contribution to the party. Brown has inherited it, and Rhodri is further debasing himself by adopting it.What's he and the party going to do when they've done the dirty on any and all possible coalition partners? Don't forget, these people were elected by us, not as a convenience for Labour's exploitation.The lesson which the electorate will eventually learn, and they're already learning it, is that Labour cannot be trusted. Their word is not their bond. A disloyal and disingenuous party. They'll tinker with the electoral system for party advantage. Dangerous for democracy, dangerous for Labour. Imo, the LibDems will be even more stupid that IWJ, to have another agreement with Labour. But it wouldn't surprise me, with the likes of Peter Black in their ranks. I noted, with a smile, Kirsty Williams' answer to the question below:"What is the biggest mistake you have made in your political career? Appointing Peter Black as my agent in the 1997 General Election, you never know with someone else I may have overturned that huge Labour majority in Ogmore! In general I think it is best to learn from your mistakes and not dwell on them. "I guess I know who Peter won't be voting for in the leadership election.Last word for Ieuan. Time to pull the plug, cut your losses, before they make you look a total jackass - imho. Mon 17 Nov 2008 19:34:06 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/betsanpowys/2008/11/never.html?page=2#comment1 Very insightful post. It seems Labour are very keen on giving them a way of getting out of the coalition with Plaid. It's a good idea from their point of view. Many of them found the concessions to Plaid too difficult to deal with in the first place. Remember Kim Howells referring to the One Wales government giving Plaid more than they have achieved in "50 years"?The Lib Dems, from Jenny Randerson's comments at least, seem keen on entering government, while Plaid have gone into government for a purpose - to deliver a clear programme of policies, many of which are ideologically difficult for Labour to stomach. Mon 17 Nov 2008 18:33:15 GMT+1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/betsanpowys/2008/11/never.html?page=0#comment0 My My Looks like more "original" thought from our Rhodri which will open open more debate between Cardiff/Westminster. Could this be the way to get Lib Dems back on board and then DISH THE NATS and everybody happy except the partners in One Wales government who happen to be THE NATS.As Ron once said were moving into an era of "new politics" and was he rright. Apparently the last tune on the Titanic was "things can only get better" well lets hope it doesnt apply to us. Mon 17 Nov 2008 18:26:48 GMT+1