Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html en-gb 30 Wed 28 Jan 2015 17:04:20 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html DisgustedinDERRY http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html?page=85#comment6 RT_PhilanthropistWe're all just inferior Paddies. Thu 06 May 2010 12:17:05 GMT+1 RT_Philanthropist http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html?page=71#comment5 We should be grateful to Ken Clarke for his timely reminder of exactly what "Ulster's place in the Union" (Cameron) is. Clearly in Clarke's view, a backward and unsophisticated society, andf no self-respecting Englishman gets involved. A timely wake-up call to Unionists - no matter what flag we wave in Northern Ireland, we're just not really British. Relief. Thanks Ken. Thu 06 May 2010 11:35:06 GMT+1 DisgustedinDERRY http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html?page=57#comment4 The Home Rule bill of 1886 was opposed by the Conservative party in England. They were sympathetic to the Anglo-Irish/unionist population. A prominent Tory politician, Randolph Churchill, claimed that Ireland was not one, but two countries. He viewed home rule to be dangerous. "Why should an Imperial parliament grant a native parliament to rule over the unionist population, when they had only revulsion for such a move?". He exploited the fears of the Irish unionists, who were by now mostly in the North East of Ireland. He declared in a speech that “Ulster will fight, and Ulster will be right”. The bill was defeated by thirty votes in the Commons and caused a split in the Liberal party; Liberal unionists voted with the Conservatives to defeat the bill.The general election in 1892 gave the Liberals and Gladstone a shock. He could only gain a majority by securing the votes of the Irish Parliamentary party. The unionist liberal MPs had by now sided with the Conservatives. Pacts, it would seem go both ways!!! Wed 05 May 2010 16:48:37 GMT+1 NImaninLondon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html?page=42#comment3 This is from J.C. Beckett, writing about unionist opposition in Ulster to home rule, in 1886, explaining Tory eagerness to jump into bed with them as the opposition was mutual: "The alliance thus formed was an enduring one. It yielded some electoral profit to the conservatives; but, in the end, they found it a dangerous embarrasment. To Ulster protestants it proved an encouragement... to press their claims to the uttermost".Do things ever really change? Wed 05 May 2010 16:21:01 GMT+1 DisgustedinDERRY http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html?page=28#comment2 MarkThis one night stand is all and good on the night. The UUP will soon discover how degrading the walk of shame really is!!! The morning after the night before, when reg is looking for his knickers, Cameron will be lying on his belly, content with his actions. And not a care for the one bolting out the door in shame. Wed 05 May 2010 12:00:12 GMT+1 Ian_the_chopper http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html?page=14#comment1 Ken Clarke can always be relied on for good copy.As far as I can see it Cameron has two options, assuming he gets close to a majority.Form a concensus with both the UUP & DUP much like John Major did and rely on Labour, the Lib Dems and the various Nationalist Parties in Scotland, Wales & Ulster being unable to get a 100% vote against in any confidence motion.Secondly have to make promises to the Nationalists as well which will probably involve greater powers in Cardiff and a referendum on independence for Scotland. Wed 05 May 2010 10:20:58 GMT+1 oldrightie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markdevenport/2010/05/ken_clarkes_clanger.html?page=0#comment0 I decided not to dignify your blog with a reply, then I changed my mind. Wed 05 May 2010 08:38:05 GMT+1