Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html en-gb 30 Fri 29 May 2015 08:45:18 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html hms_shannon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=99#comment166 166. At 9:12pm on 25 Jan 2011, Grateful Marie wrote:164, 165. Dang it. I sure am a complex little person. :-\The trouble with instant communication is that some times one is not under stood,we both speak the same language but its difficult to get the drift from a quick remarks as your nuance & tone would not export readily to some one in darkest West Wales & the same goes for me.All I meant by my remarks to you,was take care of your self, as people who voluntarily go out & look after others run some risk,plus the factis there is not very many who care to do this.I am sorry for this misunderstanding its my fault.... Wed 26 Jan 2011 09:06:57 GMT+1 mariein http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=98#comment165 164, 165. Dang it. I sure am a complex little person. :-\ Tue 25 Jan 2011 21:12:46 GMT+1 mariein http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=98#comment164 163. At 6:54pm on 25 Jan 2011, ukwales wrote:“look after your self,as there are not many of you out there...”You know what? Maybe I misunderstood. Perhaps I’M the one being defensive.Gee whiz - to me. Tue 25 Jan 2011 21:10:29 GMT+1 mariein http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=97#comment163 163. At 6:54pm on 25 Jan 2011, ukwales wrote:“look after your self,as there are not many of you out there...”Gee whiz. I guess I had you mistaken - seems to be two sides, and only two, issuing forth from you. Rather sad to me.Yes, go your own way, by all means. Tue 25 Jan 2011 21:07:09 GMT+1 hms_shannon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=97#comment162 161. At 6:08pm on 25 Jan 2011, Grateful Marie No different to your voluntary efforts,look after your self,as there are not many of you out there... Tue 25 Jan 2011 18:54:17 GMT+1 hms_shannon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=96#comment161 Post 159 Thanks, Post 160What a fellow!there were giants then. Tue 25 Jan 2011 18:49:09 GMT+1 mariein http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=95#comment160 Post is none of my business, but #158 paragraphs 4 and 5…A noble cause, to be sure. Tue 25 Jan 2011 18:08:04 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=95#comment159 158. Your posting brings Leonard Cheshire to mind. Tue 25 Jan 2011 18:00:26 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=94#comment158 Hang on for the moment.Feared lost at sea.Remedial steps initiated just last evening.Further word to follow.Life is surely full of ironies. Tue 25 Jan 2011 17:59:13 GMT+1 hms_shannon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=94#comment157 An incredible offer,& from one person,thank you.I am so relieved it is now in safe hands.The Eagle has at last landed,but Huston we have a problem with signing & therefore,will not act contrary to your wishes.Respecting your precedent of anonymity,please please,could a box number or forwarding address be sent via the usual way.The name & address of the Minister who heads up this work will be sent,& one could deal direct thus cutting out us middle men.Things in Romania are difficult,but improving,one of the benefits of the EU is that Romania`s infrastructure has been massively helped,new roads new business ect.The Romania that I worked in is rapidly fading.Its neighbour Moldova is were the feeding centre for the young & elderly is now located.Moldova is in a pickle,with the EU not pushing east & the big players east struggling.Many there feel things were some what better under the old communist system.Back then at least some times with the latest 5 year push,some infrastructural help came their way.Moldova is now stagnating.All the young must leave for a better future to escape the grinding poverty.This leaves just the very young & very old in the position of reliance on a loved one sending money back in order to survive.Frequently,fickle men get caught up in bad living overseas, the money stops arriving.Things get very serious very quickly for a mother with small children.For them the norm is what you plant & preserve in summereat in winter,no grow no eat.Being single with young one can not tend the garden with the intensity that it requires,also the very elderly find this a losing battle.I have supported this work for many years.There are also other areas I would like to support.The Minister last November returned from a visit to the feeding centre.He was asked by me how are things over there & can I cut down my support to help in other areas.He told me straight,your support is keeping the vulnerable alive,no one wants you when you are vulnerableespecially when elderly.The brutal fact is, people like him can only help over there, with the help of people like your self,many many thanks & the kindest regards. Tue 25 Jan 2011 16:06:46 GMT+1 hms_shannon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=93#comment156 How High is you`r average China man!.With his country`s export drive on an war footing he is walking 6ft tall what ever his actual name & hight.His ship is coming in,literally.Over the last two years China has lent on less transparent & easy terms, more than the World bank.some $110 billion, according to last weeks financial times.What ever Chinas ideology of the recent past,now its making money.Chinas business is now Business.Whilst its difficult living with this as more & more western firms close in the face of this tsunami,of take overs & competition,I feel these will be seen as the good old days.As & when a turn down for China occurs,to keep its millions focused & in line,up its voluminous sleeves or should that be Armani these days,is the nationalist card.Hard line mandarins in the wings,& make no mistake they are there (they all-ways are)will then think it a jolly good thing to flex some muscle & its good night Taiwan.But in the mean time its business as usual,with the west(America)trying to sort out all Chinas bothersome neighbours & being bled white in the process,this is costing China zilch,man that is good news for Chinas bottom line.It was not a pleasing tune for us British & the topsy turvy way things are turning out it will not be a pleasing tune for the Americans either."When the world turned upside down". Tue 25 Jan 2011 14:55:45 GMT+1 amaryr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=92#comment155 Good to know all is OK in Mardell world, but good also to have had a look at this forum. Look forward to the next topic. Tue 25 Jan 2011 14:34:39 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=92#comment154 Panic no more, Mark is back with some more comments on Obama. Tue 25 Jan 2011 00:28:59 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=91#comment153 This posting should be renamed as:"Mark Mardell's blog status anxiety over rising BBC costs"Cough up some more license fees, you cheapskates!:) Mon 24 Jan 2011 22:15:18 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=91#comment152 152. Don't know. Might be done for the day on that topic.Agree with your comments at 151, though. When I started posting on the BBC it used to bother me that the postings wouldn't stay on topic.After a while, though, I began to see different and more subtle things - and often rather more thoughtful things - that came out as the strings followed their own paths like a meandering stream. Mon 24 Jan 2011 22:13:47 GMT+1 amaryr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=90#comment151 IF at 150Vamp 'til ready? Mon 24 Jan 2011 21:07:39 GMT+1 amaryr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=89#comment150 Francis Power at 149I'm not sure you are accurate that moderators are employed to "keep the forum on topic". Who can know what interesting ideas will spin off many another topic. My understanding of moderating on the BBC and other forums on both sides of the Atlantic, is to ensure a minimum standard of civility, to prevent online bullying and obscenity.It's a shame you feel you don't want to participate, there are many excellent, well informed minds here, some unbelievably badly informed individuals, wise heads and immature minds. A fascinating sediment of the tide of humanity washes up here. Whether you dive in or simply observe, it doesn't hurt to paddle on the edge occasionally.A waste of money? For my small contribution via the licence fee, it's a goldmine, especially for those of us retired from the coal face of lecturing and missing the cut and thrust of debate.PS. Without the 'permission' of the moderators to 'allow' sidetracks from the topic, neither you or I would have the opportunity to exchange these ideas. Mon 24 Jan 2011 21:01:21 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=89#comment149 149. At 8:05pm on 24 Jan 2011, Francis power__________It isn't the moderators.We're merely waiting for a new string. Mon 24 Jan 2011 20:41:49 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=88#comment148 Human moderators are required to keep forums like this on topic and every forum is only as good as its moderators. Without that they are worth nothing and a waste of license fee payers money. They are certainly not worth participating in. This is why I did not participate in Mark Mardell's blog. Looks like Matt Frei's is sadly going the same way. Have fun. Mon 24 Jan 2011 20:05:21 GMT+1 amaryr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=88#comment147 John from Dublin at 142I do see what you mean ref. techno-geeky programmes, but I still feel sure there are already organisations- who often use capital letter only in their names - who look out for word/phrase combinations that are or are not allowed, or flag up alarums and excursions in the eye of those who presume to police the ethics and manners of the populace. You see I'm sure that if I called you something Really Rude, I would be blackballed, but if I simply and politely questioned your parentage in the Queens English, I probably would get away with it. This idea actually has quite a lot going for it, since President Obama called for more civility, and not a second too soon. It would mean that those who are continually impolite, inaccurate (wow - this programme has endless magic possiblities!) or even rather silly ( no - scrub that one, sounds too close to home!) would be confined to the margin - literally - of online debate. Mon 24 Jan 2011 17:44:15 GMT+1 mariein http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=87#comment146 Ginseng iced tea almost came out of my nose. CNN's quick vote today: Who would you be more likely to support for the Republican presidential nomination? Rudy Guiliani or Sarah Palin.The results so far: Guiliani 85% Palin 15%. Although I hate those stupid CNN polls, this one was funny and the result – Thank God. Although 15% is still way too high. :-( But I just thought we were stoopider than that, so :-) Mon 24 Jan 2011 17:25:02 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=86#comment145 141. At 4:17pm on 24 Jan 2011, John_From_Dublin wrote:# 136 IF"That begged the obvious question of when you're due an election – since we are expecting one in weeks, and seem likely to give our govt the thrashing of a lifetime.""According to Wiki there doesn’t have to be one there till late 2013?"__________The Conservatives are itching for a go.Their campaign workers are fully mobilized, ready, and, like the panzer divisions of yore, armed and fueled up, engines running, merely waiting for the spring sunshine to dry the ground and make it firm enough for battle. They have already started door-to-door campaigning, even before the writ is dropped.The budget will be brought in very soon, and the Conservatives have announced that it will include programs that the Liberals will have to vote against. The Conservatives are trying to provoke an election by having the budget defeated on a vote of no confidence in the House. The NDP are terrified, because almost all of their seats are vulnerable. Not sure where the Bloc stands.If they can't provoke the opposition for certain, I would not be surprised if the PM went to visit the Governor General to request dissolution the day after the budget speech.That will be very soon, with election day being the first spring day where there is a fair probability of warmth and sunshine.----------The Conservatives think the economy is on the mend; they have way more cash in their campaign coffers than anybody else; the opposition is still divided; polls show the Conservative support edging toward 35 % (which probably means closer to 38% of actual votes cast-and-counted); Liberal support soft in the "905" belt around the Golden Horseshoe; NDP support soft everywhere; and a Liberal leader of significant ineptitude and no experience in a national campaign.They don't know what to do in Quebec, but the reports in the paper this morning suggest that the strategy may be to tell voters in Quebec that they should take government money as a bribe (I translate). The catch phrase they intend to use as code for this lofty and principled sentiment is that they want Quebec voters to keep in mind "the tangible benefits" of electing a government member".That seems like a deeply insulting, half-century out-of-date mis-read of Quebec culture to me (people don't usually like being told, implicitly, that they are prostitutes), but hey, this government is known for having a tin ear when it comes to Quebec.In any case, given the rather poor showing by the Liberal leader (heard him on the radio on Saturday: awful, just plain awful - maybe he should drop the political spin and pivot nonsense, and try answering questions instead? maybe he should drop the condescension of repeating the interviewer's name so frequently and so unctuously, as if speaking to misguided school-children?), and the money, and zeal, being applied by the government, they might well get their majority. Even though a week can be a long time in politics, as of today I would not bet against it.On the other hand, if those who voted for the Greens last time would wake up and realize that it is their wasted votes that put the Party of "Let's-burn-hydrocarbons-faster-to-speed-up-global-warming", (i.e., the most environmentally reactionary government in the G20) into office the last two times, and instead cast their votes for candidates who might unseat the Conservatives, that entire calculus would be stood on its head. Mon 24 Jan 2011 17:22:18 GMT+1 mariein http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=86#comment144 Maybe the BBC is sending its moderator jobs to China. That would be...interesting. Mon 24 Jan 2011 17:10:46 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=85#comment143 140. At 4:12pm on 24 Jan 2011, John_From_Dublin wrote:I wroteto the Beeb demanding payment for my contributions. They replied promising to pay me exactly what they were worth. Still waiting for that cheque....."[[I heard it was in the mail, just like mine, but they told me my contributions were only worth half of yours...]] Mon 24 Jan 2011 16:42:53 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=85#comment142 138. At 3:56pm on 24 Jan 2011, amaryr wrote:"These self same groups demonise Islam and, to be fair, almost anyone else who doesn't share their view, and cannot see that they are doing exactly what they say their 'enemies' are doing! Plus ca change!"__________Oh, boy.Yes, we certainly have our share of Taliban-on-the-government-benches, and yes, the hypocrisy is breath-taking, and it extends to almost every policy field.Self-proclaimed fiscal conservatives who pour tax money out with a hose.Self-proclaimed "tough on crime" guys who dream night and day of abolishing the long gun registry - which police use, apparently, 11,000 times a day.Oh, yeah. No shortage of hypocrisy with this government.Many governments engage in hypocrisy to some extent, but this one has turned it into an art form.----------And, after five years in office, do they propose to run for re-election on the basis of their achievements in office?Hardly.The paucity of their "achievements" is so great that their campaign strategy is to villify and demonize the leaders of the three opposition parties with savage personal attacks, and nothing but personal attacks.Hold on. Those guys are in opposition.Remind me again: Who's been on the government benches? Mon 24 Jan 2011 16:38:18 GMT+1 John_From_Dublin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=84#comment141 # 137 amaryr“It can't be outside the wit of the techno geeks to write a programme to moderate posters, with key-words+phrases leading to obliteration.”While I am no techno geek, I suspect it is v difficult to get a computer program to do that. Eg you have to get a computer that distinguishes between, say, someone who writes ‘poster X is a Nazi’ and someone who writes ‘I deplore those who falsely accuse another poster of being a Nazi’. Moderating is definitely not an exact science and it is pretty obvious that they have more than one person doing it, as the strictness of moderation varies from time to time.”Dear Aunty Beeb - sitting in her little office, all greying hair and lavender scented undies, delete button beneath her index finger, the Miss Marple of the airwaves - policing our pathetic efforts single handedly.”It’s a delightful image ;-) Mon 24 Jan 2011 16:25:15 GMT+1 John_From_Dublin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=83#comment140 # 136 IFThat begged the obvious question of when you're due an election – since we are expecting one in weeks, and seem likely to give our govt the thrashing of a lifetime.According to Wiki there doesn’t have to be one there till late 2013? Mon 24 Jan 2011 16:17:25 GMT+1 John_From_Dublin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=83#comment139 I imagine the turnover is akin to fighter pilots in the Battle of Britain, and every few weeks yet another gibbering wreck is dragged off screaming to the Home For The Bewildered.You must also bear in mind that in some cases, mentioning no magic names, postings have to be translated into English before they can be moderated…# 134 IF“Clearly, each of us will have to do his or her part by billing the BBC less for our contributions.”I wroteto the Beeb demanding payment for my contributions. They replied promising to pay me exactly what they were worth.Still waiting for that cheque.....;-) Mon 24 Jan 2011 16:12:59 GMT+1 John_From_Dublin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=82#comment138 # 133 IF"Gosh. Imagine that.And all these years I thought they had prospective volunteers lined up around the block anxious for the opportunity to review our scintillating prose..."I imagine the turnover is akin to fighter pilots in the Battle of Britain, and every few weeks yet another gibbering wreck is dragged off screaming to the Home For The Bewildered.You must also bear in mind that in some cases, mentioning no magic names, postings have to be translated into English before they can be moderated… Mon 24 Jan 2011 16:09:17 GMT+1 amaryr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=82#comment137 IF at 136I enjoyed and appreciate your tirade.I admit to a shamefully low level of knowledge about Canadian politics, having just enough to feel a sense of unease at another enormous nation on the American continent - which has always seemed to me to be the ne plus ultra of commonsense - starting to show signs of being held in thrall to yet another far right evangelical Christian mind-set. It is a frightening thought that some of the purportedly most highly educated groups in the Western world are suddenly speaking in tongues. What on earth is going on? It would be almost amusing, except that the power held by these groups now have such a potentially baleful influence on the rest of the world. It's the hypocrisy that infuriates me. These self same groups demonise Islam and, to be fair, almost anyone else who doesn't share their view, and cannot see that they are doing exactly what they say their 'enemies' are doing! Plus ca change! Mon 24 Jan 2011 15:56:17 GMT+1 amaryr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=81#comment136 To all of you wondering where Mark Mardalls blog has gone, I thought you might be amused by the following email I received courtesy of the BBC search team._____________________________________________________________________________________Thank you for your enquiry, which was received via the feedback form forthe new BBC search results pages. Mark Mardell's America blog can befound here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/Kind regards.BBC Search Team Try the BBC iPlayer - Making the unmissable, unmissable:http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/ _________________________________________________________________________________________Lovely to get a response - shame no-one checked to see if the blog was actually active which is what we all want to know. And, of course, what has happened to Mark himself.I am in absolute agreement with those of you who say the threads become more interesting as they segue from idea to idea - like good round table discussions. It is a shame tho' that the 'closed for comments' has happened even if it does mean fewer moderators, less BBC expenditure. It can't be outside the wit of the techno geeks to write a programme to moderate posters, with key-words+phrases leading to obliteration.Dear Aunty Beeb - sitting in her little office, all greying hair and lavender scented undies, delete button beneath her index finger, the Miss Marple of the airwaves - policing our pathetic efforts single handedly. Mon 24 Jan 2011 15:35:17 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=80#comment135 And now to start the week off with a tirade -Today's topic: Public stimulus spending on infrastructure projects.This morning in the paper I see that the organizers of the Toronto Gay Pride Parade have been turned down for an economic stimulus grant, notwithstanding that they have met all of the criteria set by the government for receiving federal stimulus funds.----------We have a minority government that has done virtually nothing in the last five years except work, night and day, like the devil himself on converting that minority status into a majority. In my view, it all boils down to one man's ego - and, consistently, nearly seventy percent of Canadians are united in this one thing: they do not want this man as Prime Minister.But every waking, breathing moment is spent on electioneering. We've had five years of it, without a break. All campaigning, all the time. 24/7/365.Canada's economy has done reasonably well because the previous government had done an outstanding job - budget in surplus, national debt in steady decline to 42% of GDP, banks solid, unemployment low. All the present bunch had to do was leave it on auto-pilot and stay the course already plotted out by the previous government of Paul Martin, which they have done, by and large.The one glaring error, financially, was to reduce our national tax on consumption, a decision that, to date, has cost the country about $40B in lost tax revenues. It was an extraordinarily foolish decision that flew in the face of half a century of efforts by the Ministry of Finance and the Bank of Canada to shift taxation from income to consumption. This is a policy that every government in this country - federal or provincial, Liberal, Conservative, or NDP - has known to be needed for the last fifty years.Why was this incredibly dumb decision made? You guessed it: Electioneering.Under any circumstances this is a huge amount of money to spend on trying to obtain a majority. Oh, the cost of human ego.--------------------Which brings us back to the economic stimulus funds, and the reason why stimulus spending in the US and Canada has been less effective than might have been hoped.The fact of the matter is that under the criteria set by the government, the Gay Pride Parade should have been eligible for a grant. (Everybody surmises that the reason they have been excluded has a lot more to do with the fact that 5 of every 6 votes cast for the present government were from evangelical Christians).That the funding should (most probably) have been nixed because of religious prejudice, rather than because it is a gross waste of public funds, I suppose merely makes it even more ridiculous.It doesn't bother me in the least that the applicants for funding were the Gay Pride Parade.What bothers me is that a parade, ANY parade, would have been eligible for infrastructure funds.How many other parades did they in fact decide to support financially?It boggles the mind what these people could be thinking.------------------------------To most of us, infrastructure means buildings, sewer lines, new storm drains, flood control, water filtration, highways, railroads, bridges, tunnels, telecommunications installations, burial of electrical power and communications transmission lines, etc., etc.I'm ok with that kind of spending. These are assets that will be of benefit to Canadians (or Americans, as may be) for the next 50 - 100 years. But a parade?A parade?Just how does a parade constitute infrastructure spending?How is a parade going to stimulate solid long-term growth in the economy?Who in their right mind drafted the grant criteria so broadly that a parade, any parade, could have been eligible for funding?----------And that's the thing.The Federal, Provincial, and Municipal governments co-operated, and spent matching infrastructure funds on, laying inter-locking stone walkways in a park that nobody uses. In another parks public infrastructure funds were used to fix flower beds.And then, if that's not enough, they insist on putting up signs (to get the money the recipients have to agree to erecting the signs) announcing to the public that the project was paid for with government infrastructure funds.In the past grants of this nature have gone to every snowmobile club, every curling rink, every seniors club, every hockey arena ... And for what?Are these people nuts?This is public money that is being thrown away.With both hands.By the shovel full.By the bucket full.For no genuine benefit to Canada (or, the US, as may be) whatsoever.All of these stupid projects, these pet projects of every ward-heeler politician in the country, are being paid for with public money.Public money that has been borrowed.Borrowed public money that our children and grandchildren will be taxed to pay back.These people have borrowed money for complete and utter wastes of public resources. Did we really elect such a bunch of idiots and buffoons?And my children and grandchildren are going to be saddled with paying the taxes, eventually, to pay for this nonsense?Yet they insist on putting up these signs.That just blows me away: signs to trumpet how they have just wasted more of my tax money.What are the signs really saying?Here's how they translate in clear English:"We, your elected politicians, have just poured another sackful of your tax dollars, and your children's future, down the toilet."----------The real thing that's wrong here is that these people feel this is something to boast about. Something that will get them votes.Why aren't they hanging their heads in shame?Why aren't they afraid to show their faces in public?Instead they boast about it.They use government funds to advertise "Canada's Action Plan" on TV.That just kills me.What incredible gall.In my world, every person involved in authorizing so much as $1 of spending on these boondoggles would be banned from public office for life, by law. Put them in jail and throw away the key. They are a menace to every taxpayer in the country.That's my tirade for this morning. Mon 24 Jan 2011 15:23:36 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=80#comment134 125. At 04:14am on 24 Jan 2011, rodidog wrote:"... like you, I believe some of the more interesting discussions happen when the thread goes off topic. "__________I prefer to think of it not so much as being off topic, but more along the lines of following a path that may have twists and turns - sort of like driving from Milwaukee to San Francisco by way of Wilmington and Baton Rouge. Mon 24 Jan 2011 13:56:23 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=79#comment133 130. At 11:19am on 24 Jan 2011, John_From_Dublin wrote:"The changes, which will see BBC Online's budget cut by £34m, will also result in the closure of up to 360 posts over the next two years."__________Clearly, each of us will have to do his or her part by billing the BBC less for our contributions. Mon 24 Jan 2011 13:52:53 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=79#comment132 129. At 10:58am on 24 Jan 2011, John_From_Dublin wrote:"While I take your point, I suspect the reason they close off discussion is v simply that postings are pre-moderated and it is a drain on their staffing resources to have to do this."_________Gosh. Imagine that.And all these years I thought they had prospective volunteers lined up around the block anxious for the opportunity to review our scintillating prose... Mon 24 Jan 2011 13:50:22 GMT+1 strontiumdog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=78#comment131 re#131extract from the article,http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12265173"There will be fewer news blogs while standalone forums, communities and message-boards will be reduced and replaced with integrated social tools"I guess we've had a good run and it's a sign of the times that something would have to give as the BBC downsizes its budget...Shame though.... I guess all the people who blog here complaining about the BBC and it's wastefullness will be getting what they want. Mon 24 Jan 2011 11:47:49 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=77#comment130 #117"Also, I have no idea what happened to Mark Mardell or his blog."Whatever happened, was sudden and unexpected. Possibly health related?His blog hasn't been removed from the BBC sitehttp://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/but it seems to have been sidelined, for now. He hasn't added to it in about 11 days, as of today. If it is an illness, it seems like a serious one. Mon 24 Jan 2011 11:23:53 GMT+1 John_From_Dublin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=77#comment129 But then againhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-12265173"The BBC is to cut about 200 websites as it reduces the amount of money it spends on its online output.The changes, which will see BBC Online's budget cut by £34m, will also result in the closure of up to 360 posts over the next two years." Mon 24 Jan 2011 11:19:55 GMT+1 John_From_Dublin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=76#comment128 # 125. At 04:14am on 24 Jan 2011, rodidog wrote: “120 IF,You could be right. It just seems an odd way of doing things; especially their new idea of closing threads. Apparently your comments fell on death ears in that regard, which I think is/was a shame since, like you, I believe some of the more interesting discussions happen when the thread goes off topic.”While I take your point, I suspect the reason they close off discussion is v simply that postings are pre-moderated and it is a drain on their staffing resources to have to do this. Mon 24 Jan 2011 10:58:53 GMT+1 John_From_Dublin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=76#comment127 # 120. At 9:16pm on 23 Jan 2011, Interestedforeigner wrote:"Rodi et al.,I'm not sure that Mark has gone. If you go to the main BBC blogs page, he is still there. It may have something more to do with no new postings, and all previous strings closed for comment.Perhaps he is on holiday, or on an extended assignment. Would have thought that the US-China "special relationship" would have been of some importance, though. Curious ..."I would imagine the Beeb would have said something if he had left. As you say, maybe holiday, or other work. Maybe just a bad flu... Mon 24 Jan 2011 10:56:33 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=75#comment126 @ 126 rodidogI think it depends upon which Chinese person you happen to be talking to! And of course there are provinces within China who regard themselves as independent. A bit like Texas. We have counties here in the UK like that too. Mon 24 Jan 2011 09:19:26 GMT+1 rodidog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=74#comment125 121 Francis power, “You make a fair point but that relationship might be considered more 'local'. Important as it is. Try as I might though, I fail to bring to mind any neighbors throughout history that have not had boundary disputes. I suppose its a question of degree.”I suppose so. Although, does China even count the reign of the Mongols as being Chinese? Mon 24 Jan 2011 04:29:20 GMT+1 rodidog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=74#comment124 120 IF,You could be right. It just seems an odd way of doing things; especially their new idea of closing threads. Apparently your comments fell on death ears in that regard, which I think is/was a shame since, like you, I believe some of the more interesting discussions happen when the thread goes off topic. Mon 24 Jan 2011 04:14:00 GMT+1 american grizzly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=73#comment123 Well did they ever find out if a missle was fired off the coast of California from a sub, or what if anything it was? Or how a Chinese sub popped up in the middle of a naval exercise amongst US ships in 2007? Or how China is developing a aircraft carrier fleet? I believe three are under construction. Or the new Chinese stealth fighter (the Russians also have one now) probably technology gleaned from the Nato war in Serbia. Tibet and Taiwan hands off per China, when the future comes will China say hands off too, like Hitler did in Czechoslovkia, and the Polish city of Danzig? China invests more in Afica supposedly, than the rest of the entire world, or so I have heard. Didn't the UN fight Chinese troops in Korea? How have the dynamics changed, is China now a refined beneficent caring nation of the world? Alot of questions beyond economic power. Mon 24 Jan 2011 03:08:51 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=73#comment122 @ 122 JMayI appreciate your irony but you are too hard upon America. Yes it imported the theory, instruments and sentiment, to begin with. But it turned them all into something else entirely. At their best you can't really argue with any of them. Mon 24 Jan 2011 01:19:26 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=72#comment121 #117"But America did invent jazz and blues music, and the modern civil rights movement."All connected to other "imports". Sun 23 Jan 2011 23:51:44 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=71#comment120 @ 119 rodidogYou make a fair point but that relationship might be considered more 'local'. Important as it is. Try as I might though, I fail to bring to mind any neighbors throughout history that have not had boundary disputes. I suppose its a question of degree. Sun 23 Jan 2011 23:12:54 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=71#comment119 Rodi et al.,I'm not sure that Mark has gone. If you go to the main BBC blogs page, he is still there. It may have something more to do with no new postings, and all previous strings closed for comment.Perhaps he is on holiday, or on an extended assignment. Would have thought that the US-China "special relationship" would have been of some importance, though. Curious ... Sun 23 Jan 2011 21:16:25 GMT+1 rodidog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=70#comment118 117 Francis power,"China, through its long history as a world superpower (long before north America was but a twinkle in a few adventurous sailors eyes, except to native Americans) did not tend to use its clout to unbalance markets or make war. Call me a liar if you can."I would not call you a liar but, I would point out that Japan might have a different perspective on Chinese history and the effectiveness of the "divine wind" which saved them from China's warmongering way's. Sun 23 Jan 2011 18:06:45 GMT+1 rodidog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=70#comment117 109 Grateful Marie,"I was a little crushed to see Mardell gone, so I can’t imagine how you old blogger friends might feel. (Your post made me think about the last scene in the wonderful movie Fandango, where Judd Nelson just wants to say so-long to someone – bittersweet.) And I wonder about Mark himself. It seems unusual that he would exit without notice. Maybe it’s temporary. With the upcoming US political climate, the BBC will open something up at some time."I'm more perplexed then crushed. I thought perhaps I missed some announcement detailing what happened, apparently not. It does seem an odd ending and perhaps there is an element of what that Judd Nelson character was feeling. If so, so long to all those from Mark’s blog! Sun 23 Jan 2011 17:57:53 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=69#comment116 Generally @ recent postsChina, through its long history as a world superpower (long before north America was but a twinkle in a few adventurous sailors eyes, except to native Americans) did not tend to use its clout to unbalance markets or make war. Call me a liar if you can.Also, I have no idea what happened to Mark Mardell or his blog. I never participated in it myself, for my own reasons, which it would serve no useful purpose to share. Perhaps it will be back but I am sure the BBC would be pleased if people who did were to also find a platform in Matt Frei's blog to discuss American current affairs through a European perspective, which I think is their intention. As a regular participant I can say I have generally found the standard of debate in these discussions is reasonably high and usually manages to stay more or less on topic.@ 116 JMayVery true. The UK still hasn't got over giving away the patents for the jet engine after the second world war. But America did invent jazz and blues music, and the modern civil rights movement. All fine inventions. Sun 23 Jan 2011 15:49:35 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=68#comment115 #115"USA Technology was largely imported by foriegn brains,other know-how skills and materials"The entire US is imported. If you had a point to make, you forgot to mention it. Sun 23 Jan 2011 06:53:13 GMT+1 Emps http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=68#comment114 79. Lucyj wrote:To learn USA techonology and take it home to China?------------------------------------What comes around goes around. ie;USA Technology was largely imported by foriegn brains,other know-how skills and materials Sun 23 Jan 2011 04:41:59 GMT+1 Emps http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=67#comment113 17. Kurtinco Wrote: There are so many Europeans prattling on about the “decline” of the United States. It would be quite funny is it weren’t so pathetic. You see, it is the Europeans, lead by stunted Brits with runt complexes, who suffer from “status anxiety”. So in an effort to comfort and sooth yourselves over your loss, long ago, of stature you jump on any bandwagon that attempts to demoralized the great people of the United States of America.--------------------------------------Oh! ra..ra..ra..Give us a break. Sun 23 Jan 2011 04:01:42 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=67#comment112 112. At 7:39pm on 22 Jan 2011, John Davies wrote:"What regional or global superpower has not done so in the past ??"__________The United States.In the immediate post war America could simply have used its then nuclear monopoly to dictate terms to all.It did not. Sun 23 Jan 2011 03:10:45 GMT+1 John Davies http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=66#comment111 It's not a matter of morality or even intention. When China has the commercial and military supremacy, then it WILL use it. It goes with the territory. What regional or global superpower has not done so in the past ?? The only questions are "when" and "in what way". Sat 22 Jan 2011 19:39:43 GMT+1 amaryr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=65#comment110 It's good to see some of those who post on Mark Mardells blog here - but where is the blog? Why on earth is there no information available? I've emailed - and put comments at the end of other blogs and there is no word. Hope he's OK.Come on BBC, keep the faith of your customers. Sat 22 Jan 2011 17:53:07 GMT+1 BluesBerry http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=65#comment109 The US should have "status anxiety" over rising China.China's rise is positively correlated with America's decline. I cannot believe that the best days are ahead for the United States.Citizens Against Government Waste: Set 20 years in the future, a Chinese professor is lecturing students about the fall of the American Empire. Reckless spending led to crushing debt, he explains, before adding: "Of course we owned most of their debt so now they work for us." The message: America, be scared of China...OR:America, examine what you did wrong that China has trillions in reserves and you sit with:- thousands of jobs lost and- several states trying to figure out how to declare bankruptcy as they confront crushing debts and dwindling revenues. Congress persons and Senators from the two major political parties have called on bankruptcy lawyers and a former House speaker, Newt Gingrich, to come up with a solution. According to estimates, some states face a combined pension fund shortfall of trillions. Proponents say bankruptcy could permit a state to alter its contractual promises and get out from under massive debts. Nevertheless, states cannot seek protection in the US Bankruptcy Court as they are considered "sovereign". And the EU thought that it had sovereign debt problems!Even the old standby, a bailout is fraught with uncertainty as major constitutional barriers would have to be removed or circumvented. In addition to States, some American cities are running a high risk of bankruptcy. The City of Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, is said to have received legal advice to petition for bankruptcy. Hamtramck City, Wayne County, Michigan has also sought bankruptcy protection to cover deficits. The request has (because of problems mentioned above), been turned down by the State of Michigan. It appears that the United States is suffering from severe financial hardship without a solution in sight. Sat 22 Jan 2011 15:37:11 GMT+1 mariein http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=64#comment108 DenverGuest and Interestedforeigner,I know you don’t like the mid-term results, but, in my opinion, a Republican house with a Democrat president better represents the US, than a swamp of one party. And maybe some level-headed, fair actions will result. It doesn’t have to be gridlock. Or is my hope springing eternal again?__________________________________________________________Re #83 and fouling up the youth:“...our society of constantly glorifying public ignorance....” is the worst thing to me, in that long list.#86 PistonHonda said it about China. I especially agree with: “And I hope that US truly has anxiety because then maybe whether warranted or not light a fire under this government to start making decisions that are geared for global competitiveness.” I’m not afraid of that competition, or partnership. China has its own problems. We need to wise up to that, and to our own problems. One being our youth’s and not-so-youthful’s bizarrely paraded lack of interest in knowledge. I can’t decide if it represents the majority or not (hopefully not).__________________________________________________________rodidog, I was a little crushed to see Mardell gone, so I can’t imagine how you old blogger friends might feel. (Your post made me think about the last scene in the wonderful movie Fandango, where Judd Nelson just wants to say so-long to someone – bittersweet.) And I wonder about Mark himself. It seems unusual that he would exit without notice. Maybe it’s temporary. With the upcoming US political climate, the BBC will open something up at some time.__________________________________________________________Re Day in Pics: I love the one of the Indian farmers, protesting on the tracks. Sat 22 Jan 2011 14:06:39 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=64#comment107 #107"Jmay, a typical childish mentality using a computer probaly made in China no doubt."Wrong. It's made in Taiwan."Despite nonesense from the great unwashed China's economy is not export dependent. The size of domestic demand is even greater. Just that other countries relies more importing from China for more affordable goods."Really? Let's see what those idiots from the CIA have to say about China."The Chinese government faces numerous economic development challenges, including: (a) reducing its high domestic savings rate and correspondingly low domestic demand; (b) sustaining adequate job growth for tens of millions of migrants and new entrants to the work force; (c) reducing corruption and other economic crimes; and (d) containing environmental damage and social strife related to the economy's rapid transformation. Economic development has progressed further in coastal provinces than in the interior, and approximately 200 million rural laborers and their dependents have relocated to urban areas to find work. One demographic consequence of the "one child" policy is that China is now one of the most rapidly aging countries in the world. Deterioration in the environment - notably air pollution, soil erosion, and the steady fall of the water table, especially in the north - is another long-term problem. China continues to lose arable land because of erosion and economic development." Hmmm. Seems that their analysts and your opinion are quite divergent about the internal demand. And then there is this rumour about the drinking water running out "especially in the north".Let's have a look at what China imports and exports.Exports:$1.506 trillion (2010 est.)country comparison to the world: 2$1.204 trillion (2009 est.)Exports - commodities:electrical and other machinery, including data processing equipment, apparel, textiles, iron and steel, optical and medical equipmentExports - partners:US 20.03%, Hong Kong 12.03%, Japan 8.32%, South Korea 4.55%, Germany 4.27% (2009)Imports:$1.307 trillion (2010 est.)country comparison to the world: 3$954.3 billion (2009 est.)Imports - commodities:electrical and other machinery, oil and mineral fuels, optical and medical equipment, metal ores, plastics, organic chemicalsImports - partners:Japan 12.27%, Hong Kong 10.06%, South Korea 9.04%, US 7.66%, Taiwan 6.84%, Germany 5.54% (2009)China imports the raw materials to produce the stuff it exports. Why would the local demand be low?GDP - per capita (PPP):$7,400 (2010 est.)country comparison to the world: 128 Maybe because you can't demand much on 600 dollars a month?"US cant afford to pick a fight with its banker."Why not? The money in the bank, is printed in the US. Ask the OPEC guys how it worked out for them, the last time they tried to get snotty :) Sat 22 Jan 2011 12:31:32 GMT+1 hizento http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=63#comment106 Jmay, a typical childish mentality using a computer probaly made in China no doubt."Without the US exports, China is a feudal state barely able to feed itself." China don't want to import from US because they can make them cheaper hence the trade imbalance. The Americans practocally begged China to import more from them to safeguard American jobs. Go back to school and study economics.Despite nonesense from the great unwashed China's economy is not export dependent. The size of domestic demand is even greater. Just that other countries relies more importing from China for more affordable goods.The US is not the biggest trading partner of China. US cant afford to pick a fight with its banker. US is in dept and cannot fund its military and wars without asking China for money. America is a bankrupt state living on foreign aid. What happen to the USSR may well happen to the US in 10 years time that why Obama bows to Hu like a subject to his Emperor.Hu is the daddy. Sat 22 Jan 2011 12:01:20 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=62#comment105 "...the Chinese can no longer be contain and is a power of equal that America owes a lot of money to and cannot afford to be confrontational to in the future."Why not? What will China do? Stop making iPods? Boycott US companies? Hehehe. Imagine the US boycotting all Chinese products for 1 or 2 years. Without the US exports, China is a feudal state barely able to feed itself. Sat 22 Jan 2011 07:19:54 GMT+1 hizento http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=62#comment104 Damian Gramatacus piece about China wanting to appease America during the state visit by Hu I find laughable. Gramatacus need to get a sense of reality. Hu demanded respect from US for a state visit but America tried very hard not to give him that so for the last year or so tried to show China that they are still the only superpower by being confrontational. The US interferred in territorial dispute China has with their neighbour, arms sale to Taiwan, engineered the Cheonen sinking by blaming its on N Korea provoking incidents allowing its to send its military for wargames close to Chinese coast, tacid support of Japanese aggressive behaviour on Daiyu islands. China responded by cutting military ties with US, threaten to impose sanction on US companies trading in arms to Taiwan, prevented the UN from blaming N Korea for Cheonen sinking, tacid support of N Korean shelling of S Korean Island, suspended raw earth shipment to Japan, got US ally the Phillipines to boycot the Nobel prize ceremony in exchange for economic & military aid, put into operation the world first "carrier killer" missiles, unveailed a new stealth fighter.Who threw the first stone? It wasnt China. The last 12 months America want China to give them a reason why they need to respect China's economic and military might by testing their rival because being a superpower cant be handed on a plate, you need to earn it. China answered and ticked all the boxes. The US realise they cannot contain China's rise any longer so Hu's state visit is an opportunity for Obama to tell the Americans that the Chinese can no longer be contain and is a power of equal that America owes a lot of money to and cannot afford to be confrontational to in the future. Sat 22 Jan 2011 06:22:40 GMT+1 rodidog http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=61#comment103 Off topic:Does anyone know what happened to Mark's blog? Seems like it’s been taken down. Sat 22 Jan 2011 00:26:44 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=61#comment102 @ 101 InterestedforignerI applaud your reminder that the world has become far more accessible to great swathes of its population. But do remember, those sailing ships that carried the trade and communication your grandparents (and mine) relied upon were capable of reaching most all the same places that ships today reach. Todays world isn't any larger, just faster.@ 102 AiHaoYou want to watch those Chinese women you know. One of the most notorious pirates in history was a Chinese woman running nine Junks out of Shanghai. Had the China Sea on tenterhooks for years, this was in the 1920s. She was a Chinese woman. There're not all just a pretty face! Fri 21 Jan 2011 23:56:43 GMT+1 AiHao http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=60#comment101 @71. What now, if it isn't the kettle calling the pot!Mr. Pig, you exhibit the very qualities you are so eager to accuse others of. If you are not Chinese, you are certainly an apologist. And, just for the record, your "so much better than everyone" tone in all your posts is what got you the replies you have. "As to your copycat post, instead of making a valid response you have simply replaced a very real occurence in China to something that simply doesn't make sense." Perhaps in your narrow experience. But that was my previous point. You seem to have tunnelvision - only seeing what you want to see. In the US, Chinese people (and some rightly so) are considered technical whizes. Many Chinese are exceptionally good at programming, engineering, and many scientific disciplines. This creates a strong prejudice in the marketplace against non-Chinese who are assumed to be "less than" and creates a pattern of favoritism based on ethnicity, irrespective of actual ability. Clearly, from your (skip the adjective) post, you have no experience with this. "...2 retirees with young attractive Chinese women on their arms... none of the male locals blinked."Again, you seemed to have missed the point. Gold-diggers and "fancy girls" in China have been around for a long, long, time. That they happen to have been with Westerners or old Chinese men is not of concern to most. They are what they are. Nor would it appear you have stayed much in China. If you had, perhaps you might have seen something other than the obvious. Especially for anyone who is not Chinese, living there is quite different than visiting. Yes. To be sure, you go visit China. Spend a few days with your nice expat friends and maybe your Chinese friends (who, perhaps like mine, are not racists), and then go home and sit down and be quiet and think about what you have yet to learn. My point throughout has been that Americans are not afraid of fair competition from China or anywhere else. We are an incredibly inventive, creative, lot. What is of concern is that unfortunate problem of excessive nationalism based on race which shows itself in China (and is reflected by quite a few Chinese elsewhere) and which could result in more serious problems. As the young man in the article said, he would not be welcome on either side - a traitor to one and a spy to the other - not because of any action on his part, but merely because he was born. With that attitude, I would welcome him as an American. To be clear, when I first look at a person, I see a human being. Then, out of respect for that human being, I recognize their race - as a positive characteristic. It is only when that person becomes abusive towards me that I change my opinion. After being the target of discrimination and more, I have found that social groups matter. My personal preference is dialog, not diatribe. Sometimes, there is no good option to avoid abuse and the only choice is to take a stand. Fri 21 Jan 2011 23:11:51 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=59#comment100 Sorry Matt, way off topic - or maybe not.Anxiety and xenophobia? Well, consider:I have been meaning for some time to compliment the BBC on its "Day in Pictures" feature.Here is today's link:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12249304Almost every day there is something tremendously uplifting about this feature. Perhaps it has something to do with the universality of the human condition. When my grandfather was born, a high percentage of the world's trade was carried in sailing ships. Yet we can see, instantly, in colour, vivid, bright and full of life, images from the most remote corners of the world, mysterious, dangerous, romantic and unimaginably inaccessible in his day, yet seemingly around the corner in ours. Miraculous.Who is thy neighbour?We are all neighbours.Such an amazing world.Bravo, Auntie Beeb. Fri 21 Jan 2011 22:08:31 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=59#comment99 @ 97 DenverGuest"Not everybody in the USA is LucyJ" - We know, don't worry friend.@ 98 faeythI'm glad you have set out the view that America has never actually had any 'imperial' aspirations, which it hasn't. It never really wanted to fight anybody, just sell them something, which it does. It has protected its markets, this is true. And fair play! Far too much rubbish gets uttered about 'American Empire'. Myth. And you ask what is Europe going to do? A very fair question. Wish I knew (as a European). Fri 21 Jan 2011 21:37:33 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=58#comment98 97. At 5:06pm on 21 Jan 2011, DenverGuest wrote:"... but the results of our last national election are telling."__________Sadly so. Fri 21 Jan 2011 18:24:06 GMT+1 faeyth http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=58#comment97 I am not scared of China.If you ask me WW1 changed the Global World into a fractured one,after WW2 America and Russia emerged as Global Powers but Why? Because Europe and Asia were broken.America stopped being a Super Power in the 90's if you ask me.I am not sad for our nation either.Europe is wealthier than we are,In fact Europe is wealthier than U.S. and China combined.The real question is not if the U.S. is losing it's lone Super Power stance which I think already happened and was temporary anyway,for Europe to heal.It's whether Europe or Asia is going to be the dominate culture?We are going back to the old World Order.It okay for Americans our standard of living isn't going to lessen,in fact it's better for us that we go back to being isolationists with military but open with Trade.We have always been merchants even when it interferes with what the military wants, we are still merchants.In fact we would be better off if foreign obligations were scaled back dramatically.Europe spread Communism,Democracy,and Socialism,Banking,Industrial Revolution etc....What is Europe plans is actually the real question. Fri 21 Jan 2011 18:22:26 GMT+1 DenverGuest http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=57#comment96 73. At 6:57pm on 20 Jan 2011, Malkava wrote:@ LucyJI am utterly baffled as to how one is able to harbor such deliberately ignorant and simplistic views in terms of world affairs. It really is a cause for concern if you are truly an American - it certainly helps perpetuate the 'ignorant American' stereotype from abroad, without a doubt.I understand we are all entitled to our opinions, but comments like "Nuke China!!!" is hardly what I would consider a compelling argument for the future of American foreign policy. Nor would I give a passing glance to such grandoise assumptions as, "..smart poor American kids denied entry to our best universities because of foreign students..."Cite your sources, or is this something you've conjured up in order to justify your ill-concealed contempt for anything foreign?I suggest you educate yourself first before you make such blatantly prejudiced comments. Such ignorance has no place in building a better future for America.----------------------------------------Malkava:LucyJ and her views are dime-a-dozen in the USA. She's the closest thing on this board to the American man-on-the-street. I'm an American too so I am telling you from experience.Whichever country you come from, rest assured that less than half of Americans can even find it on a world map. There is a real disdain here for academia and education in general from a huge segment of the population.There is also an ultra-nationalistic streak here, nationalistic to the point of absurdity. The USA isn't seen as a citizen of the world. It is seen as the all-deserving, all-benevolent light of the world. Even competition from other nations is seen as some kind of a threat and, of course, they must be cheating if they get ahead of us.Not everybody in the USA is LucyJ, but the results of our last national election are telling. Fri 21 Jan 2011 17:06:40 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=56#comment95 @ 95 samalexI refer you to Rolling Stone magazine. I expect they have an approved version of why they printed the story! Personally I find the need to do multiple mixes for air play offensive, especially as mixing and mastering engineers are expected to compress every last milligram of dynamics out of a song just to make leap out of a car's speakers for the sake of selling advertising. But that's a form of self censorship I suppose, artistic compromise for commercial gain.To get back on topic I have microphones in my collection that were manufactured in China. There have been a number of comments above that assume all high tech manufacturing in China is 'reverse engineered'. As if the Chinese are not capable of developing their own innovations. Not true. The microphone manufacturer I refer to most assuredly designs its own products, which are innovative and highly respected (Stevie Wonder uses one of their tube mics for personal preference) and designed personally by their CEO. Who is Chinese and also an internationally revered classical musician. They have built their own precision tooling for their factory in China and whilst their products are not exactly cheap they represent astonishing value for money given their very high quality. All Chinese. Best sellers in Europe, where top end microphone technology was invented. Go China. Fri 21 Jan 2011 13:30:55 GMT+1 samalex http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=56#comment94 @85Every society is censored. I stumbled upon a really funny one in another forum I follow last week. The Canadian censors have just banned for radio play the song 'Money For Nothing' by the British rock group Dire Straights (released in 1985 and a staple of AOR and drive time radio stations around the world ever since - actually from the album that sort of launched the compact disc format). The reason was that someone from Newfoundland complained about the lyric "That little faggot's got his own jet airplane".... Also the radio edit has different words, *******************************************The last sentence is the only part of this "funny" tale you shared with us all that is factual. The "censors" did not ban the song they said that the album version that includes the word f*ggot cannot be played on public airways. The decision requires radio stations to play what you call the "radio edit" (which is American speak for their censored version). The fact that you call the Canadian version censorship and the US version the "radio edit" seems to indicate you don't understand that a radio edit is a censored version. I also wonder if you consider bleeping the other "f" word on American radio stations censorship or simply "radio edits" in the US but censorship in Canada? Fri 21 Jan 2011 08:15:35 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=55#comment93 @ 91 InterestedforignerI have yet to visit Newfoundland, although I have seen it from the air. However, I did have the privilege of having a Newfoundland dog in my care for its life, a joy I shall never forget. And I very much intend to visit that Island.If the back story to that silly Dire Straights saga is as you say I'm not surprised. But you have to admit, its pretty funny! I think the story was broken by Rolling Stone magazine. I may be wrong. Fri 21 Jan 2011 00:51:11 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=55#comment92 #92"China does not want the Chinese people to grow angry with the western county's so they censor more than most countrys.." This is a new one. So the Chinese government is really protecting the West from the ire of the Chinese people, an anger that would inevitably arise if they were allowed to think for themselves. The censorship then is nothing but a benign form of parental supervision and mature guidance, intended to prevent the anti-western tantrums of an immature population, correct? In no way would that anger be directed at the Chinese government, but it would be aimed at the Western world. In fact, the West should be grateful for the Chinese government and its wise policy.Nostradamus has nothing on George Orwell... Fri 21 Jan 2011 00:12:32 GMT+1 lightend http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=54#comment91 87. At 11:13pm on 20 Jan 2011, JMay wrote:There are 2 or 3 other countries with similar policies towards the Internet. Saudi Arabia, Iran and a couple of other gulf states. Oh, and China. The former have the excuse of the religious complexes. The latter...?If you had a country with 1.3 billion official inhabitants and maybe an extra 800 million unofficial inhabitants. how would you keep them happy? China is stopping anti chinese sentiment from reaching the chinese people. much like western country's stop Muslim extremist sites from being viewed in their respective countrys. China does not want the Chinese people to grow angry with the western county's so they censor more than most countrys, I agree allot of what they censor does not need to be blocked, but as China is China and nothing do to with us, we have to let them do what they feel is best for their citizens. Thu 20 Jan 2011 23:40:22 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=53#comment90 85. At 10:01pm on 20 Jan 2011, Francis power wrote:@ 81 JMay"Every society is censored. I stumbled upon a really funny one in another forum I follow last week. The Canadian censors have just banned for radio play the song 'Money For Nothing' by the British rock group Dire Straights ..."___________As it turns out, the body recommending that the song not be played in its original long version is in fact an industry body to which the broadcasters voluntarily belong. It was one of those industry attempts to voluntarily self-regulate to forestall government regulation. So this is actually pre-emptive industry self-sensorship, taken to its most ridiculous limit.As several other commentators have noted, the complainant must be the only Newfoundlander alive who was offended. Newfoundlanders have a reputation for having a pretty robust and earthy sense of humour - if there is a national trait of Newfoundlanders, that might well be it.And, finally on this point, Newfoundland is a wonderful, wonderful place to visit. If you haven't been there, do yourself a favour and make the trip this summer. Thu 20 Jan 2011 23:39:12 GMT+1 lightend http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=53#comment89 OHhh foot note, Japan was doing very well, then America jumped in and killed it for them. China has seen this and wont fall for the same tricks. Thu 20 Jan 2011 23:32:42 GMT+1 lightend http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=52#comment88 77. At 8:00pm on 20 Jan 2011, LucyJ wrote:Malkava wrote: Such ignorance has no place in building a better future for America.-----------Giving foreigners who want to destroy us access to our technology and teaching them rather than our own American kids has no place in building a better future for America...Let them attend your universities...They simply don't belong here- they belong in their homelands...===================================================Iraq tried saying that to the us, so did Afghanistan, as did Vietnam. I am in China at the moment and the amount of US students here in the university is incredible.I do love that last bit,, "they belong in their home lands", one thing the American people have never been very good at, haha. ignoring that 600 years ago it was only native Americans on the North American continent and they held surprising similarity's with the Mongolians. Many historians believe the Mongolians did find and colonies the US first (North eastern passage from Asia to North America used to be frozen). so play nice, get back to the EU and let Mongolia have its continent back. regarding the general post here, if China did raise its rmb value, then all the American company's over here would shift to India or any other place where labor is cheap.. then America in all its wisdom would blame the next county for its value of its currency being to low. Why dont you get rid of minimum wage so US factory's could become competitive???????? Also with regards to China its self, If you look at their exports, true they are high, 200billion usd more than America sells to china (not really that much now is it,, considering how much the US spends on useless ...things... like elections and McDonalds), however their home market has picked up massively and they are now producing for the Chinese people. They do not want to rely on America. About planning for the future, they build high speed rail lines (100's of km per day is being built), they are digging a huge tunnel from north to south china where they can transport water to the areas that need it the most and AND using only gravity, (think about that. no other country in the world has ever attempted anything like it). there is a housing bubble going on here so they implement a tax to stop the bubble in its tracks (learn t from Americas mistakes there, I only hope the US can learn from its mistakes both at home and from its operations from around the world).we are all going to die one day so dont take life to seriously. Thu 20 Jan 2011 23:30:03 GMT+1 lordBanners http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=52#comment87 Trade IMBALANCE is purely from US ADDICTION to CHEAPER Chinese Goods, and similarly as US blame Poppy growing in Afghanistan and Cocaine production in Colombia for the it's never-ending demand to stay HIGH, the Cultural Finger-Pointing will take priority over Solving the Problem.The notion that China should buy whatever US produces just for the sake of making US Feel-Good is contrary to Capitalism as evolved by US.Simple truth is You've been Soundly Beaten at your Own Game and no amount of CRYING will change that FACT. There is still jostling at the Gravy-Train even though it is running on EMPTY.China has already Vanquished US Economically and harbour NO Ambitions for Empire or Military SUPREMACY, but will ensure they possess the 'MEANS', just in case. Frankly, I'm impressed at China's lack of ARROGANCE over it's Unprecedented Progress, a concept Totally Foreign to US EGOS, even in Debt some still cannot control their WEAKNESS. BUT! there's always a But: There is most of Planet Earth who are acutely aware that US was/is Directly/Indirectly RESPONSIBLE for their Inflicted MISERY. Downside of MEDDLING has to be RECKONED sometime, and it's a long list. The SHAME is that Dealing JUSTLY would've been CHEAPER and FRIENDLIER.After an INVASION and 10 years of OCCUPATION of Afghanistan with accompanying Barbarism to facilitate (work-in-progress) Turkmenistan Oil/Gas to Port, China quietly NEGOTIATED, Built it's Pipeline and started Drawing Oil from same source Last year without TRAUMA. Diff in style is as STARK as Success vs Failure.Someone asked the question: WHOM would I prefer to Rule this World then, US or China?NO ONE is Entitled to RULE this World. Recent Historical FACT is, US is the only country displaying such Ambitions since WWII, and Drowning in Debt still persist with FAILED Strategy of Military Impositions.US ATTITUDE dictates more CONFLICT before things get Better. VAST Armies devour Vast Resources which US Productivity is Incapable of Covering. Go figure. Thu 20 Jan 2011 23:29:19 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=51#comment86 #85"Every society is censored." To an extent or another, yes. However, when the censorship is a matter of governmental policy, it is indicative of a totalitarian regime. This is a governmental mandated ignorance. It's not the banal type of ignorance, which is natural in everyone, this is a state imposed variety. There is no comparison in a matter of degrees, in the game of relativity everything is permissible. It's like the government demanding that everyone wear horse blinders. There are 2 or 3 other countries with similar policies towards the Internet. Saudi Arabia, Iran and a couple of other gulf states. Oh, and China. The former have the excuse of the religious complexes. The latter...? Thu 20 Jan 2011 23:13:15 GMT+1 PistonHonda http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=50#comment85 @InterestedForeignerI respect your ideas and I also agreed with your overall assessment of generation y. However, I would not make them out to be angels that have come to solve all that is wrong with the world. They come from a society of sink or swim, eat or be eaten and they will do whatever it takes to get a leg up. The stereotypes say shrewd and cut throat and I have never seen any outside of that. I have literally sat between two Chinese traders brag about how cheap they got product and how many months late they were too pay for it. They are a communist country with a different culture and different history. They may never see eye to eye and I don't think they really want to either. The sooner we see that the sooner we will make progress in our relations. And I hope that US truly has anxiety because then maybe whether warranted or not light a fire under this government to start making decisions that are geared for global competitiveness. Thu 20 Jan 2011 22:27:57 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=50#comment84 @ 81 JMayEvery society is censored. I stumbled upon a really funny one in another forum I follow last week. The Canadian censors have just banned for radio play the song 'Money For Nothing' by the British rock group Dire Straights (released in 1985 and a staple of AOR and drive time radio stations around the world ever since - actually from the album that sort of launched the compact disc format). The reason was that someone from Newfoundland complained about the lyric "That little faggot's got his own jet airplane". The beautiful irony is that Mark Knopler (not gay) who wrote the song actually got the words from overhearing a conversation between two men working in a white goods retailer who had not recognised him but happened to be discussing him (disparagingly). So actually he was sort of writing about himself, or rather how he was perceived by these two blue collar guys, using their own words. Also the radio edit has different words, but I digress. Apparently several Canadian radio stations responded to this astonishing decision by putting the song on auto repeat and playing it for an hour at a time, several times over. That was last week in North America, and you don't think your information is censored! But don't fret. Just because it gets censored doesn't mean it doesn't get out... Thu 20 Jan 2011 22:01:47 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=49#comment83 #71"Jmay, you're doing it again! Phrasing things selectively. Read carefully what I said - that despite absolute fredoms in the west, we are no more enlightened about other peoples than those without those freedoms."Therefore, censorship = freedom of the press and there is no advantage to the latter.Thanks, but I understood you perfectly the first time. It does get funnier upon repetition though :) Thu 20 Jan 2011 21:49:21 GMT+1 Interestedforeigner http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=49#comment82 Lucy,America was founded on the idea that people should be able to succeed not on the basis of their place of birth, or their religion, or the social status of their family, but on the basis of their ability.That is the promise that the Statue of Liberty held out, and holds out, to all those who have come to America's shores: the liberty to succeed, or fail, based on your own abilities and efforts.These Chinese students are merely doing what our ancestors did before us.----------When I used to go to the various graduation and awards ceremonies at the schools, virtually 100% of the academic and music prizes were won by the children of families from east Asia, predominantly China, but also Korea, Japan, and Vietnam. On occasion a prize would be won by a child whose parents came from India, or Russia, or Iran. But that was about it.The children of baby boomers raised in the whitebread suburbs in the 50's, 60's and 70's? Nowhere to be seen. They win prizes in sports, but even then, relatively few.Why?Because those prize-winning Chinese kids are pretty smart, sure, but more than that, because they work really, really hard. They work hard in ways that we have forgotten.We used to think that people who were smart, who worked hard, who were industrious, and who gave good customer service were to be admired. Those were the values upon which America was built.But we now have an entire entertainment industry that, every day, a hundred times a day, saturates our children with the message that doing well in school isn't cool. That young people should not respect or obey their parents, their teachers, the police, or anybody else. That it is important to be an individual and to disdain anybody who works hard and lives a clean life. That every problem in life can be solved in an hour: all you have to do is pull out a gun and shoot the bad guy in the last five minutes. Instead our children learn to dress badly, to speak badly, to write badly, to be selfish, to be lazy, never to clean up after themselves or be tidy. Never to show self-discipline. Never to learn about public affairs or to learn to care about their community.TV provides an endless diet of programming that teaches them that the way to do things in life involves big cars and bigger trucks, violence, guns, and disrespect. It teaches them that if they drink enough beer they will win tickets to the Super-Bowl and get to party forever with only-too-willing sexy women wearing very little clothing.Where in our society are children supposed to learn the virtues of hard work?Where in our society of instant gratification are children supposed to learn the virtues of patience?Where in our society of easy credit do our children learn the virtue of saving for something until you can afford it?Where, in our society of constantly glorifying public ignorance, do our children learn that being well read really does matter?Where, in our society of glorifying people whose response to any problem is physical violence, do our children learn that the ability to write a good business letter is actually a fairly rare and highly valued skill?Where, in our society in which every other prime time TV show includes people being killed with guns (and so guns are the solution to every problem ...), do our children learn that being organized, and having the ability to get people to work together toward a common goal is an even more rare and more valuable skill than the ability to write a proper letter?The baby boomer parents?Some hope. The laziest, most spoiled, most apathetic generation in the history of the planet has passed on its traits to its children.So our children are going to be working at low wage jobs as the employees of people who worked harder in school, learned to obey the law, learned to be thoughtful and considerate, learned to value education and knowledge, of people who learned not to put so much emphasis on individualism, and to put a lot more emphasis on working hard.----------People who work harder and better ought to be rewarded better, too. That's what we believe in a democracy with a free market economy.Those are the qualities America used to value.I don't begrudge those kids their success. They've worked for it. They deserve it. They merit your congratulations, not your scorn.And our own kids need to pick up their socks - figuratively and literally. That failure is our failure, because we have failed to instill self-discipline in our children, and we have failed to motivate them to strive to meet high standards.Nobody to blame but ourselves. Thu 20 Jan 2011 21:34:37 GMT+1 Francis power http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=48#comment81 @ 79 LucyJWorld class universities, and we have a few here in the UK too (Oxford and Cambridge come to mind, amongst others) are businesses competing in a global market place for the best students. You seem to have a rare sense of entitlement to the ones in the USA? Most American students I have known do not have that at all, although admittedly many British ones do. You also seem to be a protectionist, which to anyone remotely knowledgeable about world affairs makes you appear foolish. I can easily see why a top class university might perhaps have passed you over? Is that what has happened? Thu 20 Jan 2011 21:09:19 GMT+1 JClarkson http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=47#comment80 #63"JMay, do you know too much informaton is worse than no information."The Chinese communist government wants people to believe this. Somehow, the rest of the world is able to function just fine, even with "too much information". But the Chinese people can't. Why? Not old enough yet? "the reporter deliberately misled you by NOT stating the fact that China has surpassed Japan as the second largest economic in the world, which had been retained proudly by Japan for the past 42 years."A minute ago you were complaining that too much information is bad. Now you complain that not enough information was provided. Here is the simple moral to your story. The Chinese people don't seem to be mature enough, to think for themselves, and therefore the government has taken that task upon itself. It will decide what the population will and will not know and it will ensure that if there is any misleading to be done, it will be done properly by the government. But none of this is really relevant to this thread, everyone knows China is a censored society even is everyone is "misleading" you by NOT mentioning it constantly :) Thu 20 Jan 2011 21:08:40 GMT+1 Piggyback http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=47#comment79 Sorry Lucy, but I wasn't aware that universities offered state technological secrets freely. If you mean general science and technology, that is available to any literate student who bothers to read about it, well I think you'll find many powerful and advanced technologies available in the public domain. Science and engineering was never meant to be closed to specific nations. Indeed, if developed countries had not shared things like green tech to developing and third world countries, we would have global food/energy/resource shortages all year round, every year.As for your earlier comment... "Giving foreigners who want to destroy us"need I remind you:69. At 3:49pm on 20 Jan 2011, LucyJ wrote:What would our best solution be?Nuke China!!!--------Like I said before, the Chinese have more to fear from us than vice versa.And I suggest you actualy watch the Newsnight vid that Matt has posted above... you'll find these "foreigners" want anything but to destroy America...I think the most telling part was when Matt interviewed the little kid in that school:"So are your parents from China?""No.""Where are they from?""...South Carolina."Poor kid. How many like him will suffer because of the rising resentment of Americans (such as yourself Lucy) towards China? Thu 20 Jan 2011 20:36:49 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=46#comment78 Piggyback wrote: You don't say! Has it occured to you that the Chinese students might actually be clever too? If they can make the grades and fill up the entrance criteria that home students can't, good?------------I never said they weren't clever...sure, they are very clever and intelligent...the point is, American students are losing out their spots to foreigners in our universities...------------Piggyback wrote: Most of the Chinese students here go into law, business, engineering and computer science... compare and contrast to the all time high applications to arts, social sciences, languages, media studies from home students... you have your answer!------------Yes and why are they here, Piggy?To learn USA techonology and take it home to China? Thu 20 Jan 2011 20:04:30 GMT+1 PistonHonda http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=46#comment77 Oh and by the way, I export US agricultural goods... to China. They will be a great country and some day the worlds leader but the only way they can sustain their rise is a with a strong US. It will be interesting to see how long the communist regime stands and even more so to watch how it evolves. Thu 20 Jan 2011 20:04:10 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=45#comment76 This post has been Removed Thu 20 Jan 2011 20:00:06 GMT+1 PistonHonda http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=44#comment75 Interesting perspective... There have been a lot of media outlets that have had their say on this topic since these scores were published and I while I think that it is great that China is really pushing education (note the sample size) I think that there has been a HUGE oversight here. Perspective... The US is a immediate cause and effect society (Republican motto). If I do this, I will get that. US students have to take several tests over their educational careers at least two a year for domestic and more once they get to high school for colleges. The fact is if the test doesn't help you get into highschool/college no one cares. I had friends that went to MIT and Ivy League schools whose parents told them they didn't even have to show up to the highschool state testing because it held no weight on their future (colleges don't look at it; only SAT/ACT). There is so much pressure/competition to get into the right highschools and colleges that these types of test really are not taken seriously. How many students tried, showed up or gave half effort it is hard to say but I can pretty much guarantee as someone who went through the system that most weren't worried about how their score looked next to some teenager in Shanghai. Thu 20 Jan 2011 19:52:19 GMT+1 GregStick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=44#comment74 Lucy J is an obvious biased racist. Everyone is equal to enjoying good lives whether he is from China or US. Thu 20 Jan 2011 19:44:58 GMT+1 GregStick http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=43#comment73 There is no perfect country in this world.Suggestions for China: Keep on reforming and tackling your issues for US: Mind your own business and take away your double-standard biased view point on China and your sense of superiority. Besides US, there are Asia, Europe and Africa on this planet Thu 20 Jan 2011 19:40:44 GMT+1 Malkava http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=43#comment72 @ LucyJI am utterly baffled as to how one is able to harbor such deliberately ignorant and simplistic views in terms of world affairs. It really is a cause for concern if you are truly an American - it certainly helps perpetuate the 'ignorant American' stereotype from abroad, without a doubt.I understand we are all entitled to our opinions, but comments like "Nuke China!!!" is hardly what I would consider a compelling argument for the future of American foreign policy. Nor would I give a passing glance to such grandoise assumptions as, "..smart poor American kids denied entry to our best universities because of foreign students..."Cite your sources, or is this something you've conjured up in order to justify your ill-concealed contempt for anything foreign?I suggest you educate yourself first before you make such blatantly prejudiced comments. Such ignorance has no place in building a better future for America. Thu 20 Jan 2011 18:57:03 GMT+1 Piggyback http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=42#comment71 #70. At 3:51pm on 20 Jan 2011, LucyJ wrote:I am definitely anti-China...You don't say! Has it occured to you that the Chinese students might actually be clever too? If they can make the grades and fill up the entrance criteria that home students can't, good? Most of the Chinese students here go into law, business, engineering and computer science... compare and contrast to the all time high applications to arts, social sciences, languages, media studies from home students... you have your answer! Thu 20 Jan 2011 17:20:52 GMT+1 Piggyback http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=41#comment70 Jmay, you're doing it again! Phrasing things selectively. Read carefully what I said - that despite absolute fredoms in the west, we are no more enlightened about other peoples than those without those freedoms. Can you honestly disagree with that? But like I said (repetition is something required for ignorance, I find), you, and many others are happy to dance around the issue, preferring the easy "we're better than them because of x" mindset.#AiHaoWhy the constant implication that I am Chinese? Unlike you, I'm not making it personal. Nor am I Chinese - if that somehow devalues my opinion somewhat. Ironic that you tell me to "sit down and be quiet" - how condescending. Are you like that to all Chinese people you come across regarding their views? If I were Chinese, would you want all Chinese who don't support your blatantly prejudiced views to shut up? Talk about hypocrisy.As to your copycat post, instead of making a valid response you have simply replaced a very real occurence in China to something that simply doesn't make sense. In jobs, money and status Chinese citizens - even those born in America, UK and Europe - have nowhere near the privileges (or lack of abuse) shared by Western (white) expats in the Far East. I also notice you had to include "women" along with men... as you know that it is mostly Chinese women marrying white men, not the other way round. And you seem a bit vague with thse gangs hunting out mixed race couples in China. On my last visit I was with a group, 2 retirees with young attractive Chinese women on their arms... none of the male locals blinked. I would shudder to think the response of an old ethnic minority man in the west. As for being called lao wai all the time... oh please, I'd rather be called that than have my property graffitied, constantly beaten up and put on a "watch list" by white supremacists - yes, a white extremist group does this in the UK for "successful" minorities.I've also noticed that you said "all you Chinese" - which is actually quite a common phrase said by expats in China. You talk about racism, but is it really a case of "do as I say, not as I do"? Thu 20 Jan 2011 17:17:03 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=41#comment69 And yes, we know there's an 'unofficial' Chinese invasion right now in USA in the form of these mass amounts of Chinese students...There are millions of smart poor American kids denied entry to our best universities because the foreign students, especially ones from China, are taking all hte spots and because they are rich, while many American kids who are smart but poor, cannot afford it...So foreign students, especially teh Chinese, are also harming America by taking away spots that should be reserved for American students only...I am definitely anti-China... Thu 20 Jan 2011 15:51:59 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=40#comment68 What would our best solution be?Nuke China!!! Thu 20 Jan 2011 15:49:03 GMT+1 LucyJ http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/mattfrei/2011/01/us_status_anxiety_over_rising.html?page=40#comment67 Shekon wrote: Might sound strange but as an Indian living in US, I feel good for China and I wish that an Asian nation leads the world.-----------Its not 'strange', Shekon.Its called being UNPATRIOTIC...And if you don't want USA to be number one, perhaps its time to ask yourself why am I here?Because we don't need unpatriotic foreigners...------------Shekon wrote: Asian are the best soldiers and can be super aggressive in any sphere of life - combat, business, education, careers, family etcPlease do not make stereotypical generalizations about us Asians.---------------Yes, I will remember that, your words, superaggressive...Which is why USA needs to cut off ALL ties with China...---------------Shekon wrote: Europeans and Americans - like it or not, Asia will rule and the future belongs to us.------------Only because they stole techonology from us...Its like earning a grade that does not actually belong to you...Basically, its ARTIFICIAL... Thu 20 Jan 2011 15:45:25 GMT+1