Comments for http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html en-gb 30 Thu 17 Apr 2014 06:34:51 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html Jaward Sesay http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=92#comment12 Get Laurent Gbagbo out by using ECOMOG and the UN peacekeeping forces. With the negotiation dead, its the only way to get rid of Laurent Gbagbo. Sat 08 Jan 2011 13:49:40 GMT+1 Obadiah Mua http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=84#comment11 The drama that is being played out in Cote D'Ivoire is unprecedented in the history of elections and resolution of contentions.That the so called international community and even the UN came out to support one candidate against the other before any proper verification of facts on the ground,is undemocratic and uncivilzed in modern politics.While Gbagbo may not have won the elections,there is no reason to believe the Independent Electoral Commission's verdict as gospel truth.Ivorian law provides that results proclaimed by the IEC should be verified and certified by the Constitutional Council.Those who think Gbagbo must step down and give way to Ouattara are not doing any justice to Ivorians.Whatever the outcome of the situation now in Cote D'Ivoire,the prospect for peace is a far fetched option.Conflict resolution and peace cannot be achieved under the cicumstances of threats and sanctions which are intended to alienate belligerents rather than pull them towards a negotiated settlement.In 1992 France armed and sponsored Denis Sassou Nguesso against the democratically elected Pascal Lissouba of the Congo.No one ever talked of the genocide and crimes against humanity that were committed there.Today France and her allies are rushing to claim genocide in Cote D'Ivoire before they can even carry out investigations.I congratulate the democrate and president of Ghana John Atta Mills who knows that peace cannot be achieved through the forceful removal of the internationally declared loser Laurent Gbagbo. Fri 07 Jan 2011 16:18:19 GMT+1 JOHN http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=76#comment10 African strongmen must learn to accept defeat.A Country does not belong to an individual or his/her tribesmen but to all citizens. The option of power sharing should never be encouraged at all as it is an excuse for clinging to power illegally and after all, it hasn't worked in both Kenya and Zimbabwe where the elections outcome were obvious.It is however important to note that forceful removal of Dictator Gbagbo will mean loosing innocent lives but so be it if democracy is to be achieved. Gbagbo lost the elections and is playing a waiting game with God forbid, THE WORLD. Thu 06 Jan 2011 22:55:48 GMT+1 villamagome http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=69#comment9 We need Constitutional Amendments that limit African politicians (at all levels) to ONE TERM ONLY period -- give the rest of us a chance to also steal public funds for our people and our pensions !!!!!! Thu 06 Jan 2011 22:09:00 GMT+1 jw http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=61#comment8 Democracy doesn't work in Africa. There is no point in elections because everyone votes on tribal lines: you don't vote for a party because you agree with their policies on, say, education or nationalized industries. You vote for them because you are a Khoza, or an Afrikaaner, or a Zulu (to use South African examples). The winning group takes the jobs and the money, and gives nothing to the losers. If the losers really don't like it, they take to the bush, and you have a civil war.The best you can hope for is some sort of stability: the winners give enough to the losers to keep them quiet. That's the way it is working in ZA and Zimbabwe, it's better than having having schoolkids running around chopping off people's hands. Thu 06 Jan 2011 13:19:11 GMT+1 rickiedoz http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=53#comment7 We all can theorize this element,that factor and this about what will happen to nationals of other West African countries if Laurent Gbagbo is touched..What i see is a man with no substance and no conscience but simply selfish like many other African "so called leaders" that dont even know the meaning of the word Leadership and not even fit enough to be leaders of their own homes let alone countries..I believe that Ecowas will do the right thing if mediation fails and come to think of it..What mediation AGAIN??..You lost..Be gracious and think of the poor innocent people who suffer the consequences of his greed and the young impressionable ones that are been used by him as "supporters" dying needlessly..At the end of it all i see a man whose fate is going to be worst than Charles Taylor languishing somewhere in Custody in the Hague..This greedy so called African leaders never learn.. Thu 06 Jan 2011 09:07:30 GMT+1 msyanda http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=46#comment6 Once upon a time as a young person growing up in the vast plains of eastern africa, I had one simple wish: self-respect for the African people. Now, many years later as a well-educated middle-aged York City resident, I am still waiting for African politicians to show a sense of shame!! Wed 05 Jan 2011 23:22:19 GMT+1 Kootee http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=38#comment5 What I want contribute here is the way African Leaders have got used to perpectuating themselves in power. This is exactly what have promoted conflicts in almost every part of Africa.Once upon a time, Gbagbo always cried out foul when he was in the opposition. When he assended on to power, he has forgotton that someone is out there who can do even better than he has done over the 10 years. In order to perpectuate himself in power (status quo in Africa), he continued to fribricate reasons for postponing the elections.Recently when the elections results were about to be announced, his supporters publicly and disgracefully tore off the results. If we Africans do not improve the way we do things, the "WEST" as we always allege will continue to look down on us.It happened in Kenya and the man who lost the elections was allow to stay on and shared power. Now, Gbagbo is willing to copy the Kenya style of power sharing.Look, Africans, we have to put an end to this kind of negotiations. There are many good leaders in Africa who can do much more better than these old politicians. We have to practice real democracy in Africa. No more should one old political leader continue to eat till death while the others go hungry. Wed 05 Jan 2011 05:09:57 GMT+1 Abla Pokou http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=30#comment4 Total-Elf got a lucrative contract with Gbagbo while Bollore, Bouiygues and majors French companies are running very cool businesses in Ivory Coast. French SME’s are providing half of the fiscal revenues of Ivory Coast. Indeed, on a neocolonialist point of view, Gbagbo regime’s is the best French interests could get since the death of Houphouet-Boigny. Furthermore, the last decade witnessed Gbagbo cronies taking over every business in the country while stealing its resources. Every corner of the country is sold to sometimes unknown companies. The Oil revenues are managed by Fakoury, the Gbagbo's architect in chief. In the course of the campaign, Gbagbo said the Oil revenues were used to built presidential palaces in Yamoussoukro. Would-you believe it? Actually, where is the nationalist standard here? The education and health systems are in total disarray. Going to hospital is a big gamble with death. The Ivorians refused to give another five years to a regime of cronies not talking about assassin and toxic waste managers! This is the truth nothing else! Capitalist poweres have nothing to do with the sacking of cronies and despots the so-called “refondation” regime is by the sovereign people of Cote d’Ivoire. Everything else is total rubbish!. Wed 05 Jan 2011 00:56:21 GMT+1 Kenny http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=23#comment3 Dear Andrew,thank you again for your reportage and the interesting comparison with other African countries.Sorry to ask , but I admit not much knowledge... Would be great if you could explain a little bit more the actual role that the French government played in last years politics of Cd'I. A part from the historical ties, it's not very clear to me what is its real role in the relationship with Cd'I today, before and after the elecions. And why is te USA so interested in helping out? Not much is said on the papers ... Thank you Tue 04 Jan 2011 22:45:04 GMT+1 Ghost rider http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=15#comment2 These two people are very inteligents people why they can't agree in saving innocent people lives. Let stop blaming white man for every bad thing happening in Africa. We need to take responsible of our actions and show the world we can deal with our own problems. I read on http://www.mycontinent.co/HotTopic1.php about who are the two persons behind struggling power in Ivory Coast (Cote d'Ivoire) to understand their background. Tue 04 Jan 2011 15:58:17 GMT+1 Chris http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=7#comment1 Gbagbo is simply a bad loser clinging onto power with some flawed pan-Africanist agenda. The whole world witnessed him lose elections. Today him and a few misguided people cry that the world is out to "rob the riches of Cote d'Ivoire" whilst they murder anyone who dares speak and continue plundering the country. Tue 04 Jan 2011 13:30:49 GMT+1 celine91 http://wwwsearch.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/andrewharding/2011/01/high_stakes_for_africa_in_ivor.html?page=0#comment0 This is a elaborate fabricated crisis by the French with Western powers in tow....to get rid of an African President who persistently refuses to be a puppet and let them control the country's resources.They backed two failed coups; now massive election fraud, thwarted the election process to get this "Manchurian candidate" in the President's seat.Now a mind boggling media blitz to paint President Gbagbo as a 2nd Idi Amin.The elections records are under seal and still intact....why not recount? Tue 04 Jan 2011 11:50:44 GMT+1