Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml en-gb 30 Sat 31 Jan 2015 14:38:28 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml Simon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=95#comment20 TRW (14);This makes the assumption that only the children Mrs. Obama spoke to will achieve and they'll do it because she told them to. Her speaking to them does not mean that anyone has to wait until then for achievers to be 'allowed' to 'arrive'. It doesn't condemn the current generation from achieving in their own right before that lot reach full maturity.If the generation you speak of are really twiddling their thumbs now and waiting to be given an opportunity then they don't deserve one. Life, and opportunities to do great things, isn't offered on a plate. It has to be earned with a full measure of sweat, thought and hard work to be well-deserved and to be satisfying.Isn't the central complaint about 'fat cats' that they took what they hadn't earned? They waited around long enough twiddling their thumbs until someone offered them something they didn't deserve.You can't be specific here without being deleted, but think of bankers bonuses and you'll be on the right lines.No-one deserves to be handed a sinecure now for something that happened decades or centuries ago. Current generations bear no guilt, or perceived guilt, for things that happened before they were born. The sins of fathers and grandfathers should not burden the young. The Germans have learned that in the decades since World War 2.People deserve a good job if they are the best person to do that job, not for any other reason. End of.WR. Fri 03 Apr 2009 13:37:22 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=90#comment19 TRW, And Question Time, not Question time. Fri 03 Apr 2009 09:33:48 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=85#comment18 TRW, Make that TRW 15. Fri 03 Apr 2009 09:06:29 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=80#comment17 TRW 17, I believe there is no Question time tonight, or for three weeks, because Parliament is on its Easter break. Fri 03 Apr 2009 09:05:31 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=76#comment16 (6) Charlie: I agree with your summation - whatever they decide, it's all a bit of a gamble. Fri 03 Apr 2009 09:04:55 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=71#comment15 TRW 10, Inspecting one's own navel is no way to run an investigation. Not that I listen to anything Msgr Kent, George Gallopaway, or Tony Benn have to say.Irony: Galloway protests from the US (a country he hates) about not being allowed into Canada. Fri 03 Apr 2009 08:57:27 GMT+1 U13879388 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=66#comment14 PMQs yesterday.Some sort of political meeting in London during the last few days and a wonderful set of demonstrations there for socialism and against greed.So why no Question Time tonight (not) on BBC1?If Andrew Neill (whom Edgie should obviously take over from) can do his Weekly Politics stint tonite, why is Dimbleby too precious to do his?PM should ask him, y'know, but then the media refuse absolutely to bring themselves to book, don't they. When did you last hear PM criticise a newspaper news report, or radio or tv news coverage?The media are a Ponzi collusion. Thu 02 Apr 2009 21:45:54 GMT+1 U13879388 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=61#comment13 Plenty for PM here:Michelle Obama tells a choir of schoolgirls that they are jewels and are capable of excellence and that the world needs them. But the subtext is surely that in the 15 or 20 years' time when they are well qualified mature women they will also have real power and responsibility.The message surely is that black people must wait ANOTHER decade or so before they will be able to take their rightful places.Yet it is clear that there is already, here, a generation of black people well qualified, talented , in the 25-35 age bracket, twiddling their thumbs waiting for British society to 'allow' them to take their proper places.The President is not born of the descendents of slaves so he does not symbolise black people to whom the rest of us are in debt. He was elected for that reason. And Michelle Obama was only able to promise a future 10-15 years hence ot young black people instead of the immediate leadership roles that the current echelon of 25-35 year old young black people are ready for, are capable of and, all heaven demands, are theirs by right and in justice.For Obama's election symbolises, not only the hopes for Africa, but also, sadly, the clear message that from America's point of view repayment for slavery can wait another generation.Not in mine, however.Nor can Africa wait to be repaid another single day. That Obama does signal.Our expeditions to Africa over the last 120 years must now be paid for.And there is ultimately only one way - through the redistribution of work.Let's hope Michelle explained that to Sarah, who may find it difficult to come to terms with, given her Wiki-ed biography. Thu 02 Apr 2009 20:41:01 GMT+1 FattyFattyToadBoy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=57#comment12 Re: Estelle MorrisThere's never any 'sorry' with Nu Labour, is there? They know what's right (it's whatever is on the front of the Sunday papers that week) and they are ready and willing to prescribe it for us.And they make decisions without any evidence to back it up - are we really expected to believe that a couple of lessons on obesity will somehow make society thin again?Eddie nearly got Ms Morris. She stated that it was a parent's right to know what their child's education entailed. But when Eddie suggested that this could be decided at local level by governors and parents, it was clear that she the 'right' didn't extend to parents actually choosing what their children should be taught. And in response to her excuse - if parents are unwilling (or unable) then there's always teachers (but hey what do they know!).We need to trust our teachers again. They are experts at educating children, not autocratic politicians and unelected civil servants. Set out the principles, set out the goals and then back off. Thu 02 Apr 2009 19:59:27 GMT+1 Fearless Fred http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=52#comment11 capncapncapn (11) From memory, the case against the peer in question was for driving dangerously. He was not prosecuted for causing the death of the other person. When the peer was first sentenced, it was noted by the judge that "It's clear the dangerous driving had no causal link to the accident.". It was also reported on as such at the time (I remember listening to PM at the time and I remember that I was stuck in a traffic jam behind a Shell petrol truck, watching the person in the car behind talk on his mobile phone). It was also clearly noted on the BBC Website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7909510.stm Thu 02 Apr 2009 17:54:12 GMT+1 capn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=47#comment10 will Eddie and the team pick this one up?(from Yahoo)"Peer denies texting before crash"On Thursday, a coroner heard there was a gap of two minutes and seven seconds between him sending the last of these messages and him making a 999 call after the fatal crash.Analysis of the mobile phone masts which were used to send Lord Ahmed's texts also showed he was at least a "couple of kilometres" north of the collision site at the time he sent the last one.Coroner Chris Dorries said that if he assumed the 999 call was made 15 seconds after the fatal impact that would mean the crash happened roughly between 90 seconds and two minutes after the last text was sent.He asked Lord Ahmed: "In the period of that 90 seconds, or whatever the figure actually is, did you pick up your mobile phone and look to see if a reply had been received or start making a further reply?"The peer replied: "Absolutely not sir." Thu 02 Apr 2009 17:15:36 GMT+1 U13879388 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=42#comment9 Is Bruce Kent right, that Israel committed war crimes during its passage of destruction through Gaza last year?I ask now 'cos the Israeli army concluded its investigations on Tuesday. PM missed the event. Thu 02 Apr 2009 17:07:01 GMT+1 capn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=38#comment8 does no-one else wish it had really kicked-off yesterday? just to show these arrogant swines how angry we all are. Thu 02 Apr 2009 17:06:11 GMT+1 U13879388 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=33#comment7 Wasn't Bob Geldoff deeply sensible!?!?!Sadly, he still can't bring himself to say socialism is the only complete solution. Thu 02 Apr 2009 17:02:24 GMT+1 U13879388 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=28#comment6 I can only hope that Merkel and Sarkozy have succeeded in reining in the absurdly lax City of London.Albeit from the point of view of competing national capital.Could PM tell us what measures were agreed?Can Boris be brought to say something sensible about it? Thu 02 Apr 2009 17:00:08 GMT+1 Charlie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=23#comment5 Ah!It appears from the above picture that all of the money left in the world is on display and, that an astute BBC investigative reporter may have uncovered and now placed before us, the devices used to execute of Sir Fred Goodwin's business plan (?)...Well, if it's my "go" put it all on Black 13 please... Thu 02 Apr 2009 16:52:44 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=19#comment4 bew 1, I want to see Ms Obama and the Queen cuddling again. Thu 02 Apr 2009 16:25:22 GMT+1 NapoleonBoot http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=14#comment3 Why on earth did we have to listen to five minutes of Bob Geldof spouting pseudo economic gibberish cliches? Is Robert Peston now under threat from an Irish rock star (which may not be, if it weren't Geldof, altogether a bad idea). Thu 02 Apr 2009 16:22:34 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=9#comment2 Is Geldof handing out any of his money? Thu 02 Apr 2009 16:13:36 GMT+1 lordBeddGelert http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=4#comment1 Mmmm.. lovely to hear the dulcet tones of Martha Kearney on the PM Programme... Thu 02 Apr 2009 16:08:48 GMT+1 bright-eyedwendym http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/04/thursdays_glass_box_1.shtml?page=0#comment0 Couldn't we just get a summary of what was agreed rather than listen to Gordon Brown pontificating. We don't need another Party Political broadcast, thanks. Thu 02 Apr 2009 16:08:23 GMT+1