Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml en-gb 30 Thu 28 Aug 2014 01:36:14 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml ironDeskman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=95#comment20 Listen to Radio 4 here in Norway where I live. Always amazed to here about how well Scandinavia copes with the snow.This link shows the shows the situation that has been the hitting Oslo's main airport due to snow.http://www.dagbladet.no/2009/02/07/nyheter/innenriks/sno/4742435/ Sun 08 Feb 2009 12:00:59 GMT+1 pantozebra http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=90#comment19 Hi EddieWell, here in Hartlepool we've had a beautiful, sunny snow-free day. We had a light covering of snow on Monday, which disappeared quickly, and a few flurries yesterday, which didn't stay. All schools open, all roads gritted, life goes on as normal. Is it because we have Peter Mandelson, the Prince of Darkness, as Our Lord of Hartlepool? Fri 06 Feb 2009 16:25:53 GMT+1 LPW http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=85#comment18 I think the media needs to balance their coverage of incidents due to the present bad weather better. In the same way that when floods occur, and some people think their vehicles have the deep-wading capabilities of military tanks, when it snows heavily some think their vehicle has infinite grip and, if all else fails, they will be rescued should they get into difficulty. So why is it that the media reports the authorities not gritting roads properly or running out of salt, but does not highlight or question those who choose to ignore the weather warnings and requests from the police to avoid going onto the roads ? Last night a multitude of drivers were stranded on the roads and it required a massive logistical operation to rescue them; the story was largely treated as 'quaint' and 'funny'. As usual, the 'victims' were interviewed and, again as usual, respond by saying something like 'the weather came on suddenly'. Yet nobody thinks to ask why they felt it necessary to venture out, despite the warnings which existed for the very fact that conditions could change rapidly and unpredictably ! Some will no doubt have valid reasons, but those who don't will either lie and invent one or shrug the question off. Similarly, I haven't seen too many interviews with the police or rescue organisation, asking them how they feel about having to risk their time and own well-being on those who have got themselves into a serious predicament which was, on the whole, avoidable. I think they would provide a different 'angle'... Instead, coverage is done purely factually and without analysis. Why not balance the stories with referral to how the majority of people ridicule the 'nanny state', yet ignore very clear warnings and think they, wrongly, know better ? Why not also investigate the cost to the country of having to perform all these rescue operations, often when the problem is self-inflicted, and contrast it to what the rescue services could have been doing instead ie dealing with emergencies which were unavoidable, such as transporting pregnant women or seriously ill people to hospital ? The bottom-line is that when potentially serious incidents occur, such as are happening this week, the resulting problems are judged as acceptable EXCEPT the performance of the services which are there to deal with them; they are considered fair game. We, the public, should be held accountable in equal measure, if for no other reason than to hopefully educate the next potential stream of lemmings who would otherwise put their own lives, and the lives of others, at risk. Fri 06 Feb 2009 12:29:33 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=80#comment17 I just noticed that the tree on the right in the first picture looks a bit like James Blake. Fri 06 Feb 2009 11:02:07 GMT+1 yellowkidston http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=76#comment16 I can't stand it. The weather report on the 9 o'clock news from Bristol was beside himself, he could hardly communicate for being choked with how awful the weather is going to be. For God's sake, calm down, you are funnier than the funniest comic. Thu 05 Feb 2009 22:12:03 GMT+1 ValeryP http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=71#comment15 That's more like the snow I know! Thu 05 Feb 2009 21:57:48 GMT+1 dennisjunior1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=66#comment14 Eddie:Sorry for any comments I have written about the snow...The Blizzard is this definition...~Dennis Junior~ Thu 05 Feb 2009 21:56:29 GMT+1 poetjogger http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=61#comment13 Cabin fever set in amidst snow-covered Worcestershire in our rural village. The car was stuck in the drive and the main road had no grit on it, thus providing a test for the most experienced of HGV drivers. What is one to do? The answer: lots of layers, a woolly hat and stout wellies with which to explore the white landscape on foot. We had no idea that so many deer lived amongst us, hidden from view, as a rule, in the private woods. The footprints showed that they were braving open fields to scratch around for some green shoots. Badgers and foxes also revealed their nocturnal foraging with their deep tracks in the virgin snow (all ten centimeters of it). Our countryside is as beautiful in the depths of winter - with all its inconveniences - as in the warmth of a balmy summer's evening. Rejoice in its splendour. Thu 05 Feb 2009 19:32:14 GMT+1 annasee http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=57#comment12 Big Sis (1) - I noticed that too when he said it, and smiled to myself. I expect Eddie will be called in to a Parliamentary committee now, to be quizzed on whether he caused the bad weather today by announcing the end of the snow pictures... Thu 05 Feb 2009 18:57:20 GMT+1 Fifi http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=52#comment11 Muldoon (11) - Our snow was wet and unsuitable for carpet cleaning. However it was perfect for sculpting.When I figure out how to get the piccies out of the camera, I'll share! Thu 05 Feb 2009 18:06:16 GMT+1 Screamingmuldoon http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=47#comment10 I've just received a brilliant carpet cleaning tip from a Norwegian. If you have "dry" snow - not slushy - throw your rugs on it and tramp all over them. Give them a shake and hey presto. I'd love to say I'd tried it and it worked, but we have no snow. Thu 05 Feb 2009 17:33:35 GMT+1 TinaWebley http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=42#comment9 Pwllheli in North Wales has still not had any snow to speak of, just a couple of little flurries that have not stuck. I'm not complaining, just remember what good weather we have here when you're booking your holiday :) Thu 05 Feb 2009 17:14:33 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=38#comment8 DI_W 7,http://cover6.cduniverse.com/CDUCoverArt/Music/12/superd_7390712.jpghttp://ninibenpsp.n.i.pic.centerblog.net/mscnpp6j.gif Thu 05 Feb 2009 17:02:08 GMT+1 Chris Ghoti http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=33#comment7 I've just driven east along almost the whole length of the M4 within England (Bristol to the Maidenhead turnoff).As I joined the motorway there was a warning sign: "SNOW SLOW CAUTION"(oh, was that what that cold white stuff I cleared off the car was? No, surely not...)There was no snow on that road. Spray, yes, but no snow except what fell off the roof of the car in front at one point. It was simply not true. If they had said "SPRAY SLOW CAUTION" there might have been some point in it; there was none in what they did say.The other sign that alternated with the snow warning was "GRITTING IN PROGRESS"As I have come to expect, this was up for the whole length of the road, but there was nary a gritting lorry to be seen. In fact I have *never* seen one when that warning was being displayed.The other two signs offered me an advisory speed limit of 40mph and the warning "QUEUE AHEAD" -- there was no queue -- and a 50mph one and "OBSTRUCTION IN ROAD" -- there was no sign of an obstruction of any kind.Not surprisingly, nobody slowed down for either of these.They have just spent goodness knows how much on these "driver information" systems, and are now busy making them completely useless, because since they are wrong almost all the time everyone cheerfully ignores them. If they really were needed, I suppose there would probably be a major pile-up caused by people driving into whatever it was they had just been warned about and ignored as usual.Bah. Thu 05 Feb 2009 16:57:19 GMT+1 DI_Wyman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=28#comment6 Fifi....a pic of Mme Neige please? Thu 05 Feb 2009 16:42:19 GMT+1 DI_Wyman http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=23#comment5 No snow here on the outskirts of Norwich!! Thu 05 Feb 2009 16:33:43 GMT+1 jimmeols http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=19#comment4 Eddie, would you please defend Carol Thatcher for all the reasons already aired by so many people.I only wish I could lead a wildcat stike of listeners until she is properly reinstated. Thu 05 Feb 2009 16:23:58 GMT+1 Fifi http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=14#comment3 That's more like it! The snowplough/gritter finally made it to our northernmost bit of the A43 around 2.30pm today. None of the 'local' BBC news bulletins mentioned that the A43 had been closed ... too close to too many county borders, perhaps? Not close enough to the main centres of any one station's population, huh?Gah!The result was a long line of stuck HGVs, behind one which had jack-knifed trying to come off the (blocked) A1 and head south by another route. Lovely quiet day Chez Fifi as a result - almost no traffic, just admirers of Mme Neige, my snow-lady at the front door. ;o) Thu 05 Feb 2009 16:18:45 GMT+1 Gillianian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=9#comment2 Now that's what you call snow - not the paltry 1 inch that closed our schools this morning and had thawed by lunchtime. Pah!! Thu 05 Feb 2009 16:01:48 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=4#comment1 Eddie, This bit of bad weather isn't really a blizzard. Just more snow than poor old GB is used to seeing. A friend in Cleveland, Ohio said that they just had another 11 inches to add to what they already had and had 4 feet in December. My sister in rural Pennsylvania said they just had another 18 inches. Get over it and have a cup of hot Horlicks.According to Environment Canada, a winter storm must have winds of 40 km/h (25 mph) or more, have snow or blowing snow, visibility less than 1 km (about 5/8 mile), a wind chill of less than -25 °C (-13 °F), and that all of these conditions must last for 4 hours or more before the storm can be properly called a blizzard.In the United States, the National Weather Service defines a blizzard as sustained 35 mph (56 km/h) winds which lead to blowing snow and cause visibilities of ¼ mile or less, lasting for at least 3 hours. Thu 05 Feb 2009 15:54:29 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/02/blizzard_09_continues.shtml?page=0#comment0 "No more snow pictures"You were saying, Eddie? ;) Thu 05 Feb 2009 15:44:57 GMT+1