Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml en-gb 30 Thu 20 Nov 2014 23:46:00 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml U13643995 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=90#comment10 Big Sis - Goodness, you can remember as far back as your student days? Now, that is impressive! :o)But I agree about the Italians not paying. Quite often I've found that I'm the only one in the car park heading to the ticket machine. I'm afraid, on holiday with a hire car, I won't take the risk of being clamped or towed away. Fri 31 Oct 2008 10:03:12 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=81#comment9 BB: In Italy, most people don't pay for their parking .....I remember from my days as a student there the huge amount of time that was spent by my Italian peers working out ways not to pay for things - like phone calls, electricity, bus fares, etc. etc. The problem with such a dynamic society is that there is never any public income to keep the wheels on the cart, as was testified by the recurrent economic crises experienced by Italy during that period (this was the 80s). Still, it was interesting (as an outsider) to observe the ingenuity of it. Thu 30 Oct 2008 22:40:40 GMT+1 U13643995 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=72#comment8 littleFluffyFi - I'm pretty certain that the same system operates in many places in Italy. Thu 30 Oct 2008 18:35:11 GMT+1 littleFluffyFi http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=63#comment7 I know this is not quite on topic but I just wanted to say that parking meters in France are quite fair I find (and reflective of the French culture), as you do not pay between 12 and 2 pm........lunchtime! And if you pull up at say 11.30 and pay for an hour the extra half hour is tagged on to the time when you pay again - i.e. instead of issuing a ticket valid from 11.30 to 12.30, when the 12-12.30 period is free anyway - it will give you a ticket from 11.30 to 2.30pm. I can't remember if that this is case right in the heart of Paris, or other major cities but it's certainly the norm through most of France. Thu 30 Oct 2008 15:53:50 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=54#comment6 Chichester doesn't give change, either - and it is infuriating. Yet all the local hospitals have managed to install machines that give change .....It has always struck me that this is a way for the local council to make a little bit extra while appearing to charge less. After all, if you're trying to pay for a couple of hours parking at a nominal rate of £1.20, but you only have two one pound coins, you are paying a hefty excess. Unless you are fully au fait with the current parking charges in any one area, you are a prime target. But woe betide you if you overrun on your parking by a few minutes .... Thu 30 Oct 2008 15:15:11 GMT+1 justfloating http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=45#comment5 It is the time for reflection. We have had an out break of tasers, scolding cameras in Middlesbrough, car park fines for slipped tickets. ( see BARONESS Betty Boothroyd's fine) Even she gets fined for a procedural error even though she can prove she paid. (See old stories about ASBO for attendant on the same car park) That village is covered in signs warning not to park there.So now the local traders are fighting back they can see that these tactics have discouraged the decent visitors and spoilt people day. They are losing business for other people gain. Some councils are realizing they are creating the problem not solving it.Encouraging the law abiding back into their centres is the only way to calm the area and bias the population towards good behaviour. How the council runs its car parks is a reflection of its "power crazy" inclinations. If they can make bylaws for personal control, why not bylaws for business control.I had a bad experience the first day back in the country, with a car park thug working in Southampton. I never went back there! Thu 30 Oct 2008 15:06:43 GMT+1 Fearless Fred http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=36#comment4 Well, the parking in my old town of Didcot has definitely improved compared to when I lived there. The main carpark for the shopping centre is now free for two hours during the day(as long as you press the button for the ticket) and all evenings as well. That's certainly made it much easier for people in the area to park and shop. I *do* get mad at the plethora of machines that are installed that don't give change. I've noticed them in the hospitals in Oxford before. To be charged parking at a hospital galls, but it's even more of an insult that you may pay for more than you need, simply because they haven't put in a machine that can give change. Thu 30 Oct 2008 14:38:13 GMT+1 gossipmistress http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=27#comment3 It's not quite on topic... but can I get it off my chest? *In a car park in Tring last week, I failed to notice that the machine hadn't registered a 20p piece, and got a ticket for 50p rather than 70p. Am now facing up to a £50 fine, unless they listen to my appeal. Grrrrrr!*(no nakedness involved, mods...) Thu 30 Oct 2008 14:22:26 GMT+1 mittfh http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=18#comment2 In most Warwick District Council car parks, you can either pay for 1hr / 2hrs etc., or you can just press the button on the machine without inserting any money for 15 minutes free parking.If parking during the evenings, it's always worthwhile making a note of when the charging period ends. I've seen it vary from 6pm to 8:30pm - and some councils are stingy enough to charge 24/7.Also, beware of supermarket / DIY store car parks with ANPR timed parking. When I used to live in Kidderminster, the local paper occasionally ran stories indicating that (a) if you enter and leave multiple times during the same day, the cameras sometimes you've been there from first entrance to last exit, and (b) they don't always turn the cameras off when the store closes. So in the case of Kidderminster, where there's a cinema opposite B in a Q, people were getting charged for exceeding the 3hrs free parking, even though the store itself was closed. Thu 30 Oct 2008 14:02:38 GMT+1 Piper http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=9#comment1 T_H @1That sounds too much like integrity to me!It should be stopped immediately! Thu 30 Oct 2008 12:49:26 GMT+1 Tom_Harrop http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/no_change_given.shtml?page=0#comment0 I'm told that in Bury,Lancashire the first fifteen minutes on all parking meters is free. Not a bad idea. I think that would give time to obtain the right money if one wanted to park longer. Thu 30 Oct 2008 12:11:50 GMT+1