Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml en-gb 30 Tue 22 Jul 2014 20:22:14 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml The Stainless Steel Cat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=90#comment9 Roger (9):Hands up on my part too; I got my facts wrong. Far from being a big powerful computer, the Hubble system was indeed based on the 486 chip that early 90's home computers used.However, it was only installed in the 1999 upgrade (after several years of work hardening the 486 for work in the radiation-soaked vacuum of space) and so has been in place only for 9 years before the "A"-side failed.Does anyone else remember Morcambe and Wise's "B-Side" song? "No-one ever listens to the B-side, we can do what we like..." Thu 16 Oct 2008 12:24:14 GMT+1 Roger Sawyer http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=80#comment8 Bonjour...And thank you for posting. Stainless Steel Cat and Christophe Le Poison (@5 and 6), the conceit didn't quite work, but I think you're being a just tad harsh. We didn't try to imply an early Spectrum computer of abacus. If we'd wanted to do that, we'd have used sounds of Pong or even Space Invaders.We were just trying to illustrate the progress of technology through clips of 1980 versions of Sonic and Mario, because we thought people would remember them and compare that with what's available now. And the interview did go into what had gone wrong, what NASA was doing and what they hoped to achieve. It was also a very late pre-recorded interview, after 4.50pm, which had an effect. But hands up, it didn't quite work. A shame, because it was an interesting story.Otherwise, I was quite pleased with what we did - especially the Howard Davies interview about China, which I thought was really interesting.All the bestRog Thu 16 Oct 2008 11:18:42 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=70#comment7 Succinct. It's a good word. Thu 16 Oct 2008 08:42:50 GMT+1 U11204129 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=60#comment6 RBS got it's Xmas pressy DAYS ago!20 billion in return for paper assets...... and................... a 5 billion cash injection.I.e. about 2 years worth of the 12 percent RBS have to pay on the govt. owned shares.And the government is going to BORROW the whole 25 billion, from......., why, the banks of course!Leaving nought pence left over for RBS 'business as usual'.So WE shall have to take up the burden of borrowing again! With personal and (small) business overdrafts,.......,just like in 2007.It makes me want to gnaw my Royal Bank of Scotland (a different set up altogether, mind you) 30 cm ruler made from 7 recycled plastic vending cups, in sheer disbelief.Is the crunch,so far, enough to disrupt China, India and oil Islam?If not, the battle between democracy and capitalism will continue, as the Contractionists begin to argue that the whole problem is one of government profligacy in the first place, that the governments' solutions**** are inflationary and that they have become formally bankrupt.**** And as the above shows they are no solution at all!PS The FTSE is down seven percent today, ie about six percent down on opening last Friday, before the 'recapitalise the banks' plan was announced, and BEFORE the ups and downs since.It's not bad news. The world may yet turn to socialism.How else will it survive?Well, of course Parkin and Bade will tell you that the government will issue T-bills or other stock to raise the capital to buy shares from the bank, and the government will have shares as assets and the govt. stock as liabilities.Meanwhile the bank will have the gov. stock as assets, the shares as liabilities. (The money created by the banks to lend to the government has been used to pay off....the money created to lend to the government).Thus the banks have a bunch of eligible reserve assets (or terms to that effect) in the shape of eligible stock (what fraction of the 20 billion we know not) with which to create assets for business.But that clearly does not solve the problem of the banks having no confidence to lend.In fact in these days of deregualtion they could have (and would have if it had suited them) have created assets to the tune of the volume of business they (didn't want to) do, and buy the appropriate volume of eligible reserve assets with part of the resources created.They didn't, 'cos there is no confidence in the system, as the 7 per cent fall in the FTSE today shows.And as yesterday's Libor rate showed.As for the Dow(n) index, well, it speaks for itself. Wed 15 Oct 2008 18:31:04 GMT+1 Chris Ghoti http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=50#comment5 I dunno about the NASA bod, but *I* was embarrassed by the games-console-noises going on in the Hubble item.I mean, just because back when Hubble was launched the only computing the current BBC techies had anything to do with was computer games, that doesn't mean the only computers at the time were games consoles, y'know...(sighs and wanders away to play Boulderdash 2 on the Atari) Wed 15 Oct 2008 17:43:22 GMT+1 The Stainless Steel Cat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=40#comment4 I'm sorry PM team, but I thought that was a dreadful item about the Hubble computer. Why compare it to a games-playing home computer of the period? I'm not surprised there was an embarrassed pause before the NASA chap answered.What do you think the BBC payroll was produced on in 1990? A magic abacus? A Sinclair Spectrum? No. It was probably a minicomputer about the size of a washing machine with a similar power to the Hubble controller, perhaps an AS/400 or something along those lines.I know journalists tend not to have science/technical backgrounds, but there must be someone there you can ask, "Can we compare a piece of (originally) state of the art computer equipment to a games console or would that insult the engineer we're talking to?" Wed 15 Oct 2008 17:00:54 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=30#comment3 3. Would the length of GB's fingernails count as an eary warning system? :) Wed 15 Oct 2008 16:35:48 GMT+1 Nigel_N http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=20#comment2 Gordon Brown wants a financial early warning system. The pundits have been warning him for the past couple of years, how much longer does he want before he acts? Wed 15 Oct 2008 16:34:35 GMT+1 AllotmentJo http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=10#comment1 Wot? No Christmas decs up yet?? Wed 15 Oct 2008 15:18:10 GMT+1 mittfh http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2008/10/the_glass_box_22.shtml?page=0#comment0 Ooh - first one in! Puzzlingly, we don't have any indication of how much of it we own today...I bagsy the first seat to the left of the pot plant :) Wed 15 Oct 2008 15:07:52 GMT+1