Comments for en-gb 30 Thu 26 Feb 2015 23:31:19 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at Chris Ghoti Oh jonnie (59), that is *cruel*. The only worse thing you can say to someone than 'I forgive you' is 'I will pray for you'. Mon 02 Jun 2008 19:31:02 GMT+1 jonnie TIHI'm sure you are forgiven. Mon 02 Jun 2008 10:52:29 GMT+1 needsanewnickname Ah, I seem to have lost my instant irritation reflex as I grow, um, less young.Sometimes it kicks in with a vengeance, but never here. So far... And no, you wouldn't want to know. Anyway, there's a new Brow for strong opinions... Mon 02 Jun 2008 09:54:03 GMT+1 Chris Ghoti Just so long as people are a bit careful not to tell a victim of rape that said victim is not entitled to an opinion about rape, this blog jogs along ok.When that happens, the rape-victim may be inclined to think a great deal less of the person pontificating about who has or has not the right to an opinion. The pontificator's opinions about others' entitlements may look pretty stupid thereafter, let's say. Sun 01 Jun 2008 23:58:51 GMT+1 U10783173 Chris (53) - Less "Quack" and more "Baah". To borrow a phrase - I feel as though I have just been savaged by a dead sheep.jonnie (52) - Apologies if the forthright expressions have upset you, but there is only so much narrow and biased opinion masquerading as fact and recurring fatuous 'expert' opinion that I can take before I respond by telling the contributors that they are talking nonsense. And sometimes you have to go beyond 'nonsense' to get the point home. Sun 01 Jun 2008 22:47:44 GMT+1 Thunderbird I think I just had Mr Brown on the phone trying to sell me an upgrade to my Sky-Plus box. I was ever so polite........ Sun 01 Jun 2008 18:04:13 GMT+1 RJMolesworth Is it a tribute to Gordon Brown or (what ever the opposite of tribute is) that he can cause such dissension on the blog. To throw in my three pen'th, no prime minister is ever elected. This is Britain. We don't do democracy. The "winning" party usually only receives about 34 percent of the votes cast. Nothing democratic about that. Mrs T. got almost 48 percent after the Faulklands War but her majority was no larger than Mr. T's with only 34 percent.Does it matter, I hear you ask. Probably only to the extent that all governments in living memory have demonstrated that they have not the slightest interest in the public. And why should they. We act like fools by accepting this political system and they will continue to treat us like fools until we do something about it. Sun 01 Jun 2008 16:15:24 GMT+1 Chris Ghoti jonnie @ 52,<shakes back-feathers to make sure they are dry>Quack!:-)Fifi @ 51, I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing: I was heaving a half-brick in a peevish manner. And I already *said* 'sorry' to anyone who hadn't deserved it, which is almost everyone.... Cet animal est tres mechant: quand on l'attaque, il se defend.translated for the mods, even though I prefer the original sign purporting to be from a cage at a zoo: 'This is a very naughty animal: when it is attacked, it defends itself.'(if this is modded off I will post it again without the wicked French quotation, but it does rather fit the case.) Sun 01 Jun 2008 12:57:32 GMT+1 jonnie Indeed Fifi!Re;- TIH - and this is just me dipping my uninvited oar in To have ago at Chris in that way really is totally unjustified and unnecessary. I was actually quite shocked and checked to see if it was really you sho was writing.The blog has always run in a way that we can all drop in our odd comments - and I hope it will always be like that.Either way - Chris, unlike some of us, only tends to comment when it's something he feels compelled to comment on - and in this instance he was certainly justified.As for the personal attack on WR and using comments like:-'abject drivel''Your memory may be as short as your last visit to Wikipedia'and 'even you'What a shame when certain respected people have to launch into peronal abuse about other froggers on the blog. Great credit to both Chris and Simon (WR) that neither have had to resort to the insults! Sat 31 May 2008 23:44:14 GMT+1 Fifi Oh, can we all purr-lease agree to disagree?Even if the other party is talking rowlocks?** Fifi rhyming slang Sat 31 May 2008 22:55:12 GMT+1 U10783173 Oh dear, White Rat, yet another example of your disposition to present conjecture as fact. My change of moniker was absolutely nothing to do with another frogger, mac I assume you mean, but for entirely different reasons which require as little explanation as your newly adopted persona does.Your memory may be as short as your last visit to Wikipedia, but even you should recall my statement that I have no vested interest in GB politics (that's Great Britain and not Gordon Brown) as I don't have the opportunity to support any of the main parties. I do however object to your abject drivel masquerading as sound analysis on the subject of the British electoral process. I also note that you haven't responded to my comment regarding the Tory line of "Vote Blair, Get Brown". Surely you can't complain that the electorate voted for what the Tories said they would get.Chris (45) - I also find it comforting that you continue to feel compelled to enter discussions that don't concern you. This, allied to your need to voice an expert opinion on every subject, reassures me that everything on the blog is as it should be. Sat 31 May 2008 21:51:54 GMT+1 Chris Ghoti WR @ 48, yeah, well, I generally ignore it for myself but it irritates me when it's aimed at someone else... (Sorry, jonnie and Frances O; I ought not to have lost my temper, and I apologise to you and to anyone other bystanders.)Being fair to Brown, it is certainly true that the mess he has to try to deal with is world-wide and not entirely of his own making. I don't know that anyone could make a good job of sorting it out without looking a bit awkward in the process, or could really sort it out at all. Particularly since nobody really seems to have any idea why both food and oil prices have so suddenly gone up so much all at once, when the population and its demand for them hasn't changed all that dramatically in less than eighteen months.I happen to have found the spectacle of his being Crown Prince and not having to show any particular reason for inheriting his present position singularly unenlightening, but that doesn't make him necessarily a bad thing, just one I personally find slightly less than impressive. It is probably within the letter of the rules, but it gave the whole process a slightly shoddy effect, as if he trusted neither himself to lead the party, nor the people of the country to vote them back in. Even so, that's just an impression left by the manouevre, and may not mean that he is untrustworthy in any other respect in particular.The rest is no worse than behavoiur in politics has been for years and years, really. I started thinking that it was a pretty horrid business when whichever Chancellor it was messed up, lost the entire value of North Sea Oil overnight by misjudged invstment, and in effect said 'ooops, butterfingers!' and stayed in office. The real stunner is that so *many* people vote, not how few do it, as far as I am concerned. (I go on voting but more because I am stubborn and my ancestors sweated blood for the privilege than because I think there is any particular point: whichever side I vote for, the government will get in.) Sat 31 May 2008 21:18:34 GMT+1 Simon CG;I know, but I don't get it. The Horse, in a former persona, was the target for some appallingly vitriolic and personal posting by another, thankfully departed, Frogger. You may recall that he changed his moniker as a result. I stood up for him then because I was a fan of his posting. I found it entertaining and often informative. I deplored the personal nature of the attacks, but it appears that he has adopted the tactic for himself.My own political position is somewhat unusual, but well known by now. He refuses to disclose his own, but he gets highly irate when anyone casts nasturtiums at GB, from which one may freely deduce a certain inclination, if little else.I maintain that Blair clearly stated his intention to serve a full third term. This is not in dispute. Labour won its historic third term with that notion being at least partly in the minds of the voters. People vote explicitly for a local MP, but also implicitly for a party, a manifesto and/or a leader. What the public voted for is not what they currently have. Brown had a cast-iron opportunity to seek his own mandate last autumn. He would certainly have won then. He lost confidence in his own ability to lead and win. He betrayed a lack of confidence in the message of his party. In that moment he damned himself and his Government to a slow electoral death.He has not helped himself either. The incompetent dithering over Northern Crock, ruling out privatisation before finally being forced into it (as noted by Vince Cable especially) and more recently over the 10p tax rate have turned the Iron Chancellor into a rusty PM. The breach of the Golden Rule and the '40 percent of GDP' rule have added to his appearance of incompetence. U-turns in office are a death-knell for a politician. They give the appearance of weakness, of not believing in yourself, your party and your policy.Macmillan said "Events, dear boy, events". Clinton reminded us about "the economy, stupid". Brown stands at the mercy of events he cannot control with an economy going backward. Judged by the standards of Macmillan and Clinton he is in trouble.What's the problem with this analysis, can someone point out the flaws? Dismissing it as verbose or drivel does not make it any less valid, but only reduces the standing of the critic who does not actually tackle the issue at all.It is verbose, these things are rarely summed up in a sentence. As to whether it is drivel, the recent elections would seem to refute that notion. We shall know more next May during elections to Europe and more local council seats. We shall have a final answer probably in two years, when the public get to have a vote on the Government and GB himself.WR. Sat 31 May 2008 20:21:37 GMT+1 needsanewnickname Off to the Beach, the lot of you. I'm making a huge tureen of gazpacho and there's P1mms. Sat 31 May 2008 17:40:18 GMT+1 jonnie Perhaps it's 'reining' in Northern Ireland today.I think we need Fifi to harmonise and BigSister to lend some moral advice here ;-) Sat 31 May 2008 13:43:40 GMT+1 Chris Ghoti WR, it's a shame that it has to be at your expense, but I find it comforting that I am not the only person against whom the Intermittent Horse finds it necessary to launch rude and personal attacks if they are so unreasonable as not to agree with everything it writes, or to express any view with which it disagrees.*sigh* Such a shame that someone who can be perfectly pleasant and amusing can't restrain itself from fourth-form level 'argument' when it is crossed. Sat 31 May 2008 12:54:13 GMT+1 needsanewnickname Gladys (22) - ;o) Sat 31 May 2008 10:30:58 GMT+1 U10783173 By the way, remember the Tory campaign? "Vote Blair, get Brown". Ditched that when it proved popular, didn't they? Fri 30 May 2008 22:52:47 GMT+1 U10783173 White Rat (41) - Almost interesting but mostly, as usual, verbose drivel. It was the Labour Party that got the mandate. If you could only manage to suppress your innate Tory prejudice you might be able to appreciate that. Fri 30 May 2008 22:40:05 GMT+1 Simon Horse;Our parliamentary democracy depends on the consent of the governed expressed through the ballot. Brown has won no election and has only an inherited mandate. That in turn was based partly on the former incumbent stating unequivocally that he would serve a full term, which he signally failed to do.It's amazing that a man who thirsted after the job for well over a decade has proven to have no policies, only knee-jerk reactions to public sentiment. Brown was indeed elected, to serve as a constituency MP. He has no personal mandate for the job from the broader electorate, when he could have easily won one he bottled it.WR. Fri 30 May 2008 19:55:43 GMT+1 U10783173 pmleader (39) - You're still wrong I'm afraid and it really is very, very simple! I'm all in favour of the parking rules! I just don't like them being applied at a stupid time when there is no need for them as most of the cars have left the town and there are 100's of free on-street parking places. The only reason for the extended hours in the car parks is to increase revenue by catching unsuspecting motorists. Now, do you understand that? Fri 30 May 2008 18:48:45 GMT+1 U11204129 37. Rein back, matey!The parking rules you identify are potz, we should change 'em. Someone complains about the political rules. We should accept them. I think I'm understanding you rightly. Fri 30 May 2008 16:35:26 GMT+1 needsanewnickname Well, I'm so tired of blogging, but i'm outon the road again.- I'm on the road again.Well, I'm so tired of blogging, but I'm outon the road again.- I'm on the road again.I ain't got no froggerJust to call my special friend.You know the first time I travelled outin the rain and snow,- In the rain and snow.You know the first time I traveled outin the rain and snow,- In the rain and snow.I didn't have no sound man,Not even no stu-di-o.And my dear producer left me whenI was quite young,- When I was quite young.And my dear producer left me whenI was quite young,- When I was quite young.He said "Lord, have mercyOn this naughty one."Take a hint from me, Rupert, pleasedon't you cry no more,- Don't you cry no more.Take a hint from me, Rupert, pleasedon't you cry no more,- Don't you cry no more.'Cause it's soon one morningDown the road I'm going.But I aint going down thatlong old lonesome roadAll by myself.But I aint going down thatlong old lonesome roadAll by myself.I can't carry you, Sequin,Gonna carry somebody else. Fri 30 May 2008 15:52:10 GMT+1 U10783173 pmleader (28) - Absolutely! Not sure why you should ask. If you had really read my original posting on car parking you would noticed that I said: '. . .I don't have any problem with the charges and I don't have any problem with people being fined for parking beyond the time limit or what they have "paid and displayed" for. . .' Which part of that don't you understand? All that doesn't stop me wanting to change some of the stupider aspects of the law's application! Fri 30 May 2008 15:31:13 GMT+1 DI_Wyman Oy, Gordy, why have ye taken the socialist out of Labour, get back tae yer roots pal.. Fri 30 May 2008 15:28:44 GMT+1 DI_Wyman Gladys 22,....LOL, nice one, DiY :) Fri 30 May 2008 15:26:09 GMT+1 miraculousginger 31. whilst wages go up by 3% if you lucky. mine 0 %.the gap is widening, and fast. Fri 30 May 2008 14:50:39 GMT+1 Big Sister poverty: I think, if you look on other threads, the heating oil issue has been aired. I know - like you, I'm suffering from the increases. Unfortunately, we're in the minority. Now, if it was town gas that was being discussed, there be such an outcry! Fri 30 May 2008 14:43:20 GMT+1 DI_Wyman Good afternoon Mr Brown,watch your back! Fri 30 May 2008 14:31:36 GMT+1 Poverty All you people who are moaning about petrol price rises - it's only gone up by about 50% in the last four years .My central heating oil (which is never mentioned when talking about gas and electricity prices) has gone up by 400% in the last four years, while my pension has gone up by about 15%.What good is the paltry fuel allowance - it wont even buy half a tank of oil. Fri 30 May 2008 14:30:36 GMT+1 DI_Wyman Good afternoon Mr Brown,why are our troops in Iraq and elsewhere still not being given adequate 'kit' to keep them 'safe' and enable them to do the job 'you' have tasked them with? Fri 30 May 2008 14:26:33 GMT+1 DI_Wyman Good afternoon Mr Brown,I am ENGLISH, can I have equal rights please? Fri 30 May 2008 14:19:32 GMT+1 U11204129 12. Intermittent horse sense again. Would you like to apply that view to parking?6. You've been conned. The anti -Iraq war movement in the Labour Party has disappeared with the Brown accession. He no longer needs it.The 10p tax loses to the worst off WAS his ideaThink about the 50 pence for the pensioners. The tax credit system he introduced was an idea whose time was nigh in 1997. Every Tory think tank was proposing it.You think shedding responsibility for monetary policy is a good thing? Just what is Mervyn King supposed to keep inflation under control as Brown entrusted him wito do?You think he should act without dithering??!!!?? I'd rather he got it right after dithering than wrong straight away.Style advice? Does he deserve it?Well how about stop doing that dreadful Blair-Hewitt thing of saying 'What people are worried about is X' when the question is 'What are you going to do about X? It's your job to fix it'As for policy, pick up from the IMPRESSION you were giving at the Gleneagles Summit - saviour of Africa from poverty and advocate of equality - and DO something about both.Have courage. Take on the whole armour of God. The evil is in principalities, in high places. Be a bl**dy socialist, you fool! Fri 30 May 2008 13:50:53 GMT+1 mittfh I have a sneaky suspicion that Gordon's strategy when faced with a crisis is to listen to both sides, then go away, sit down, think about it, and hope the crisis will resolve itself. If that doesn't work, he comes up with a "compromise" plan that pleases no-one.The classic example is the extension of detention without charge - the Met would have liked 90 days, almost everyone else wanted 28 days, so he chose 42 days and added a huge list of caveats.The mere possibility of extending the limit was enough to get the 28 day-ers whinging, and I'm sure the Met won't be too pleased with the bureacracy involved if they need more than 28 days to "find" concrete evidence that their suspect is a closet terrorist.Unfortunately, after the row over backdating the police pay rise, Gordon's unwilling to forget about extending the detention limit for fear of angering them even more.Never mind that none of this would be necessary if someone could convince MI5 that we already have a pretty good idea of how they probably collect intelligence, so there's little point in whinging that their methods will be revealed if intelligence information is allowed in court.-oOo-As for balancing the books, how about clamping down on the tax contributions of non-doms and those with offshore bank accounts? Or refusing travel allowances for extreme gas guzzlers - say around 300-400g CO2/km - well above the vast majority of 'ordinary' cars, but a Range Rover model and several luxury executive cars emit at or above that range...It won't affect the balance books much, but clamping down on MPs expenses would be popular with the public, as long as it wasn't accompanied by a huge pay rise "to compensate" ! :) Fri 30 May 2008 13:43:25 GMT+1 jonnie TIH - Yes I agree, lets say selected rather than elected. However they made a mistake. I think that's obvious to the majority. Fri 30 May 2008 13:29:11 GMT+1 U10783173 On a more serious note I would say to Mr Brown: "Gordon, be very circumspect as to who you let through the doors of No.10. If anybody asks - 'How's it hanging?' - just smile and move on". Fri 30 May 2008 13:28:48 GMT+1 The Stainless Steel Cat "Mr. Brown, your problem lies in the fact that you've been emulating Adam Smith instead of John Smith. Try remembering what the "Labour" part of "Labour Party" stands for and try again." Fri 30 May 2008 13:23:38 GMT+1 miraculousginger brown became pm by default fair and square, we have nothing to complain about... Fri 30 May 2008 13:23:14 GMT+1 Gladys_Friday Oh hello Mr Brown ... when did you last see a Water vole? Fri 30 May 2008 13:19:09 GMT+1 U10783173 jonnie (18) - Well, it is very hard to be voted for as leader if no-one has enough support to stand against you and initiate a contest, isn't it? This "not elected" tag is just so much nonsense. Fri 30 May 2008 13:15:34 GMT+1 jonnie More evidence that he's not fit to be in charge :- Fri 30 May 2008 13:15:07 GMT+1 Joe_Palooka Mr Brown - There are three things not worth running for – a bus, a woman or a new economic panacea. Fri 30 May 2008 13:10:12 GMT+1 jonnie TIH,Yes I realise that - however he was never voted in as a leader - that's my point.And BigSis - I'll agree to disagree. Fri 30 May 2008 13:02:20 GMT+1 Chris Ghoti If I were rung up out of the blue by Gordon Brown, I'd say"Sorry, who?" Fri 30 May 2008 12:56:13 GMT+1 Tom_Harrop I've been expecting your call Mr Brown.... so, when can I have my pension fund back that YOU ******* raided....? Yer big galloot!!! Fri 30 May 2008 12:53:21 GMT+1 Fifi Tricky question, Sequin.Trouble is, I've heard too many editions of Dead Ringers on Radio 4, and wondered how anyone could possibly take seriously the idea that Tony Blair, Gordon Brown or Doctor Who would ring them!I'm afraid I don't believe this little scenario at all. GB is fundamentally too shy to ring up strangers -- even if you can bring yourself to believe he cared what they might say.Now then, I am selling ringside seats for the big wet-fish fight between Jonnie and Big Sister, over the honour of our prime minister. Roll up! roll up! What am I bid??;o) Fri 30 May 2008 12:52:26 GMT+1 thenicecatlady Dear Gordon can I arrange for your call to be at 06:00 every morning then I won't have to set the alarm. On 2nd thoughts - NO! I don't want to be woken up by some miserable, unelected codger who "can't listen, won't listen". Who seems to think that a few mumbled words about the economy, fuel, world poverty, Burma, China, Dalai Lama, terroroism, crime & punishment, will shut us up & make us think he is an efficient & useful entity. Wrong!!The only thing I can say to him (without being modded) is "CLEAR OFF before you do even MORE damage to this country." I apologise to the bloggers for shouting. Fri 30 May 2008 12:48:40 GMT+1 miraculousginger "hi there. yes thats correct, we do currently have a job vacancy.our selection process ? of course. we believe in giving every candidate an equal chance and for that reason although we do hold informal interviews, we use an in house voting system to make the final decision......hello sir ? ....sir ???how odd, he seemed so keen..." Fri 30 May 2008 12:47:26 GMT+1 U10783173 jonnie (9) - You have never voted for a Prime Minister! If you vote, you vote someone as your MP. If your MP is in a party that can form a government then it is usually the leader of that party that becomes PM. If he/she dies or retires then the new leader of the Party invariably becomes the PM. That's the way Parliament works. As they say - "those is the rules". Fri 30 May 2008 12:45:02 GMT+1 Big Sister Jonnie: I think you'll have to accept that I don't share your opinion of Mr. Brown, and to describe him as a 'bumbling oaf' is, at best, unfair.I don't like the other lot, but wouldn't describe any of them in those terms (though I might have a few choice words to say about Mr. Conway). Fri 30 May 2008 12:43:15 GMT+1 mygloriousleader Oh Hullo Gordon. Look don't you think it's about time to go? ...The economys going down the drain along with the finance industry...Yes I know you think that we've had years of growth but in reality it's been funded from credit and there's no more of that anyway...Yes I know that you say that crime is down but the reality is that the figures have been massaged....How do I know? Well when we had our wheely bin stolen, the police number that I was put through to said that I needed to get a crime reporting number from my Borough Council, supplier of the wheely bin. I rang them and they did not know what I was talking about. So another theft went un recorded...Yes I know you think things are great, they probabaly are for you. I don't live on a six figure salary. For those of us that end up at the end of the month with more month than money, it's pretty miserable...The trouble is Gordon that the financial industry under your time in control has been like the wild west...Yes I know you think the sheriff is the Financial Services Authority but soft regulation of a voluntary code has not really worked has it...The other thing is the cost of energy is going through the roof with the unregulated heating oil industry charging what they like...Yes I know there is the winter fule allowance but that buys less than half a tank of heating oil...No Gordon I think it's time for you to go...Just like it was in the late 70's...We don't want to end up with rolling power cuts, three day weeks and rubbish and rats piled high in the streets again do we? Fri 30 May 2008 12:25:17 GMT+1 jonnie BigSis: Would you really be that controlled if you spoke to the bumbling oaf!I'm not sure he's that talented and have doubts about how well meaning he is - however none of us elected him did we. Fri 30 May 2008 12:19:09 GMT+1 jonnie WB Sequin,Sounds like a cue for a song -- what whas it called?something aboutturning handouts down To keep his pockets clean!Now if Gordon or his assistants where to ring anytime before 8AM I'd get very angry indeed! Fri 30 May 2008 12:15:01 GMT+1 bottlesford I would say stop pretending that the high world price of oil has anything to do with the ridiculous prices we are paying for petrol in this country. We are being charged well over 100% tax on our petrol. If you got rid of that, and just stuck with the standard VAT, the high world price of oil would not be causing us any grief at all.Of course, we all know that you have to get taxes from somewhere, to fund the Iraq war and the forces being in Afghanistan - both very expensive. There again, you could just bring all the troops home. Britain can no longer afford the luxury of trying to be an influential world power.We know you are "listening", but unfortunately you are not taking any notice. Still, that won't matter after the next election. Fri 30 May 2008 12:14:30 GMT+1 Big Sister Okay. What would I say to Mr. Brown? Something along these lines."I think you're very well meaning and a very talented man, but I am disappointed with your performance to date. I don't think the situation is irretrievable, but I do think you need to work out a way which, for you, would ensure you get good timely advice and act promptly rather than swithering.You've a great deal to offer us - Don't keep letting us down! And ring me back in six months so we can discuss how its going."Of course, he won't ring me or read this. Fri 30 May 2008 12:06:28 GMT+1 hantsguru Hi Gordie - thanks for calling.I think you are getting confused between hearing and listening. I think you can hear the words but maybe you are unsure what they mean. The bottom line is that the scam is up - you've been rumbled !Your so called "golden economy" that put an end to boom and bust is over. Maybe Immigration, debt and high taxation are not the 3 pillars of sustainable growth.If you really want to help - resign - that is what people are asking you to do Fri 30 May 2008 12:04:10 GMT+1 U11235707 "Hi Gordie, I hope it isn't true that you're planning to axe social security for young men who 'fail' to get a job after a year.If it is true, shouldn't some, if not all, the blame go towards those agencies which are too busy employing women?How many young men have you employed in your staff recently?" Fri 30 May 2008 11:46:29 GMT+1 mittfh Welcome back!Are you going to add any more residents to the Glass Menagerie?As for Gordon, there are several items of advice he could listen to. One of which would be - when faced with two opposing camps over a decision, don't choose a "middle ground" which pleases nobody.Biting the bullet and temporarily reducing fuel duty would achieve a lot of support - even better if you can sneak a tax rise on super high earners to help pay for further measures to reduce poverty.Perhaps even distribute energy efficiency grants to a wider section of the population... Fri 30 May 2008 11:43:53 GMT+1 steelpulse I recall, Caroline a few days back when the fuel tax was the hottest issue and at least two serious faced Government Ministers were sent out to say to us plebs "we are listening" to your pain. We gurgled with appreciation. Well I did. They had Hugh Lauries "baby blue" eyes in the TV series "House" as they gazed down at our agony. What happened then was unthinkable. It was assumed - by the media first and then us that the "listening posture" meant things may be reconsidered or - heaven forfend - altered in favour of the tax payer in some way.What then happened behind the closed Number 10 Downing Street door - one can only guess. But was a small volcano being temporarily housed there? I do not know. I, Mister Brown, was not listening anymore. Fri 30 May 2008 11:42:34 GMT+1 Big Sister Eddie may be on the road (or rail, or whatever), but you're very welcome here, Sequin.Question for Eddie: Will you be wearing a rugby shirt? :o) Fri 30 May 2008 11:42:23 GMT+1