Comments for en-gb 30 Sun 24 May 2015 13:12:22 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at davmcn I used to know a Phil Oxera. Grew roses, he did. Sun 08 Aug 2010 10:03:27 GMT+1 davmcn AN 83, It makes people get overexcited as well. Sun 08 Aug 2010 10:02:38 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd typos = have ordinary bloodtripos = Oxbrigde nonsense Sat 07 Aug 2010 23:12:20 GMT+1 Sindy 84. ExpectingtheEnd"Why do I pick out Oxbrdige?"Because you can't spell? Sat 07 Aug 2010 21:53:03 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd 78Well, so far so good. The posts relevant to this debate, which I see as centrally about the myth of ability as distict from educational endowments, will appear piecemeal on FB (with luck!!!) and I will link to them fromn here.For me toffs and banksters can do proper jobs without social cost.For Dorling elitism preserves wealth and income inequalitiesFor me it preserves work inequalities too. To quote Dorling and do nothing about work inequalities it is to be elitist.Equality is not something you need a professor or an IPPR spokesperson to support you in believing. That sort of elitism creates the problem that equality becomes Equality, a Special Option at......Oxbridge, which 'very few' have the 'ability' to understand and even fewer to act on****.Well, Oxbridge 'PPE' is currently getting the press it deserves.And of course the 'museum' subjects too evidently do little more than provide arcane ways for the elite to hold on to and extend their privileges.But I'll give you good evidence in the sciences and mathematics too if I manage to find ways that are not 'potentially defammatory'Why do I pick out Oxbrdige? Because from Thatcher to DC-NC we have suffered their production of mountebanks for too long. PS I'm optomistic because of the Beach.****I'm reminded of the sort of ex-theology student who knew Christ slightly at Cambridge Sat 07 Aug 2010 17:59:25 GMT+1 Alan_N That too?? Is there no end to the dastardlyness of this organism? Sat 07 Aug 2010 12:46:21 GMT+1 davmcn AN 75, Phylloxera can cause that... Sat 07 Aug 2010 11:35:04 GMT+1 artifus Sat 07 Aug 2010 02:47:08 GMT+1 artifus Sat 07 Aug 2010 02:04:04 GMT+1 Sindy 78. ExpectingtheEnd129. At 5:21pm on 04 Aug 2010, ExpectingtheEnd wrote:This comment was removed because the moderators found it broke the House Rules. Fri 06 Aug 2010 17:18:24 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd very clearly why Oxbridge is NOT picking out the most talented but is in fact picking out the most privileged.With names, ranks and numbersDespite much of this being in the public domain, and described by the very people themselves that I pick out, the material is regarded as 'potentially defammatory'However there is some hope notwithstanding that the post may yet be published in some form or another. The link, which is to the 10th or 11th version of the post, was referred some time ago..Now that I am in preMod different versions of it might be accepted. There is some evidence for this in respect of some posts of mine treated similarly on the Beach.The beauty of it is that once passed by Mods a post can't be re-referred (I think)So, some time this weekend I'll repost and link to it from here below.But not now - I've got 150 miles to drive to the....Beach!!(Some Beach stuff referred before I was in pre-Mod was removed as Off Topic but the pre-Mod process has accepted major parts of it in other posts) Fri 06 Aug 2010 17:01:09 GMT+1 artifus Fri 06 Aug 2010 16:47:56 GMT+1 Redheylin the truth Fri 06 Aug 2010 16:32:29 GMT+1 Alan_N 74 - It still makes me wake up in a cold sweat!;-) Fri 06 Aug 2010 16:23:04 GMT+1 davmcn AN 58, That's why they grow roses at the end of rows of grapes in France to warn them of diseases. It hits the roses first. They still remember phylloxera. Fri 06 Aug 2010 16:20:09 GMT+1 Alan_N Of course. I had a place at Kings Cambridge to read molecular genetics, but Media Studies at Thames Poly was a much more worthy option;-) Fri 06 Aug 2010 16:07:25 GMT+1 Fearless Fred Ah, but how he tells it, he got offered a place at Oxford that he turned down ;-) Fri 06 Aug 2010 16:01:01 GMT+1 Alan_N 70 - (It's because he got rejected by Oxford) Fri 06 Aug 2010 15:58:59 GMT+1 Fearless Fred Careful, EtE, someone may think you've got a chip on your shoulder.... Oh wait; you have... Fri 06 Aug 2010 15:51:01 GMT+1 The Intermittent Horse Isn't it nice to see the FTSE well above the psychologically important 5300 mark?Banks doing well also - got to be good. Fri 06 Aug 2010 15:45:04 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd 65And the bigger one by far if those jobs you mention were announced as to be performned by the intergenerationally idle aristo bankster Oxbridge brigade of blackguards, who have lived off the rest of us for centuries, whilst the money spent on their mis-education, teaching them how to protect and extend their privelges, etc, was divided up amongst the people you want to empty your bins for you for their real education in management and executive skills. And if they could hear over the thunder of feet in runs on the banks, that their income would be exactly the wide. Fri 06 Aug 2010 15:06:21 GMT+1 artifus 66 - lost faith in the money god many moons ago and did not experience panic, but an ever increasing sense of hopelessness slowly eroding away what is left of my faith in humanity.mass panic in the uk? what's that like, then? collective tutting and sighing?:o) Fri 06 Aug 2010 14:42:56 GMT+1 Riv96 I think that mass panic might occur if we all woke up one morning and had lost faith in the concept of money. After all it is merely a way of taking up the slack in value between people and institutions and is something we believe in in the same way as any other religion. Fri 06 Aug 2010 11:16:05 GMT+1 Matthew 1964 Cambridge How about suggesting that everyone claiming benefits should do community work such as cleaning road signs, picking up litter or doing jobs related to their skills for the council, so they are at least doing something positive to earn the money they are given.Perhaps those that are simply living off the state because they don't get enough if they got a job, or are just too lazy, will think twice.Now watch the mass panic as they look for some other way to avoid work!!! Thu 05 Aug 2010 20:25:21 GMT+1 Peter Start of suggested BBC disaster story. "Reports are reaching us that a number of foxes have come through the Channel Tunnel. Officials will not confirm that none of the animals is rabid, but stressed there is no cause for alarm."Dover and Folkestone would become instant ghost towns. Thu 05 Aug 2010 18:18:25 GMT+1 mga63morris mass panic is endemic, widespread and dangerous - what else causedthe credit crunchthe gulf oil leak pogrom of BP executives in the light of the oil having dissappearedthe nonsense about GM food in europemacarthyism (reds under the bed)and the real witch hunts homophobia and persecutionislamophobia since 9/11Clever leaders know how to manipulate the levers of panic/hysteria of their followers hence1930s german antisemitismwidespread popular collusion with the UK "austerity" planthe 75 minute nuclear warning from iron age Iraque and popular collusion with its return to the stone ageI think mass panic is a dramatic interpretation (on film) of mass hysteria - as quite well recognised psychiatric phenomenon. Did you stop eating beef years after the last prion viruses had gone? Did you stop using aluminium cooking utensils after it was suggested they lead to dementia? How about a swine flu jab - or toxic antivirals for every snuffle last summer and autumn. Y2K???mark morrisps - we're all going to die! Thu 05 Aug 2010 18:07:22 GMT+1 Lady_Sue Alan@58: NO! That would be dire! Don't even think about it.Like that so many new bloggers have appeared on this thread - don't keep them in moderation too long. Some new flu scare - we've had Mad Cow, Bird Flu and Swine Flu - Horse Flu? Duck Flu? Oh no, they do that already... Fish Flu? Oh, some of them do that too... Snail Flu? Thu 05 Aug 2010 18:06:00 GMT+1 Sindy 60. SidI meant 6.45 p.m. - or 18.45 if you prefer. Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:47:55 GMT+1 Sindy 59. SidIt's now 16.45, by the way ... Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:46:39 GMT+1 Sindy As I said on the RNLI thread: 'And yet again the clunky BBC moderation process leaves us all wondering what these new bloggers (welcome, by the way) have to say.' There must be a better way, mustn't there? Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:45:23 GMT+1 Alan_N A freak disease that kills all vines everywhere in the world. Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:43:37 GMT+1 Peg22 You just made me read a Daily Mail article, I'm feeling woozy. However, an interesting thing to note is that Churchill supposedly stated that this would make people question there faith. I think this lies at the heart of the matter. It's not about people panicing, which I too am highly sceptical about, it's about people starting to question authority and the status quo, their beloved institution etc. That's what the real cause for concern was. Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:37:03 GMT+1 nookybear IF all of a sudden the mobile phone reception signal vanished and everyones mobley stopped workingOH WHAT JOY !!!!! Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:26:41 GMT+1 Mr Woof London Metropolitan University was it? Is there some published research? Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:11:59 GMT+1 pirate phil the cancelation of Eastenders/coronation St or all TV. Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:09:58 GMT+1 Ian Harris PM to get two hour slot Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:08:50 GMT+1 Julie Petrol supplies be cut off from midnight Thu 05 Aug 2010 17:04:27 GMT+1 SirStarryKnight Abrupt and permanent closure of all Tesco shops. Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:59:02 GMT+1 Adrian_Atterbury Mass panic? This isn't Italy. I suppose if the British public got wind of a bargain somewhere that they were in danger of missing. Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:57:04 GMT+1 mike i think that a new single from chas and dave ? well say no more !!!! Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:54:03 GMT+1 IMOORE I should have thought that panic buying was anything but panic (uncontrollable fear) but a rational response to a predicted shortage. Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:52:38 GMT+1 Adrie van der Luijt Mass panic during the Dutch National WW2 Remembrance Service in Amsterdam, after a drug addict started yelling incoherently: Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:49:35 GMT+1 ruthirata a government (of any persuasion, to keep the balanced view) that had an idea about governing. Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:48:34 GMT+1 Taggingalong Correct spelling and punctuation becoming compulsory Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:47:00 GMT+1 Robin The BBC news being outsourced to FOX (you really need to have lived in America to feel the pain in this) Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:45:40 GMT+1 Robin Another 10 years of Labor Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:43:26 GMT+1 davmcn Corked wine and moldy wafers? Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:43:13 GMT+1 Taggingalong Complete failure of all mobile phone networks. Thu 05 Aug 2010 16:42:28 GMT+1 Fearless Fred Sid (33) That'll NEVER happen, you know that! Thu 05 Aug 2010 15:52:19 GMT+1 Alan_N Loss of the recipie for chicken tikka mosala Thu 05 Aug 2010 15:04:11 GMT+1 AmbassadorDelenn mittfh @36, One of them could do The Weather while the other was over on Long Wave doing the Shipping Forecast I suppose. Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:59:19 GMT+1 The Stainless Steel Cat Seriously then...A virulent virus, not one with ready made vaccines that just needed to be adapted to a new strain, but something actually new and very contagious. Public transport would be deserted, potential carriers would be shunned or even attacked.A massive solar storm wiping out power and communications - without the now-normal information overload, reassurances would fall on deaf ears (those few ears they reached). Markets would crash, the ever-popular just-in-time delivery system which all businesses seem to use now would collapse, shops would be empty in a day leading to looting and violence.An unstable country actually setting off a nuclear device in a populated area.Evidence of aliens.Evidence of god/God/gods. Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:54:40 GMT+1 mittfh Re: Post 35 (AmbassadorDelenn)Never mind Lembit - what about his former Romanian lover (and her sister)? Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:53:43 GMT+1 AmbassadorDelenn "... and as this is my last time hosting PM, from me, Eddie Mair, goodnight! Lembit Opik will be here from Monday ....." Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:47:22 GMT+1 Sindy 15. ExpectingtheEndIf it has to be 'Stephan', it should really be 'Frei'. Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:42:32 GMT+1 Sindy I'd panic if he wrote something sensible! Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:40:39 GMT+1 mittfh How about a certain regular blogger whose posts are apparently now subject to premoderation taking over Today / TWAO / PM / the country? Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:38:07 GMT+1 nikki noodle A three or four hour national power 'outage' - crikey can you imagine it?! Pandemonium. Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:06:34 GMT+1 Anne P All the GPS signals for satnavs going awol - lovely story locally today about lorry drivers going round and round in circles because a roundabout has been remodelled but their instructions are still telling them to take the third exit which no longer exists! Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:06:27 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd Headline announcements:'Rich even richer, poor even poorer, more starving dying.''Planet boiling'Don't worry. We won't turn a hair. Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:04:12 GMT+1 Anne P The entire mobile phone network breaking down. Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:03:52 GMT+1 Gillianian The entire internet system breaking down. Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:01:40 GMT+1 Anne P Interesting question - is there any equivalent of the Orson Wells War of the World scenario that would fool us today?Much more likely to be something mundane like no petrol in the pumps or no water in the taps - under those circumstances the veneer of civilisation usually turns out to be pretty thin. Thu 05 Aug 2010 14:00:42 GMT+1 Kath Your headline last night. ----"In the past few minutes we have heard" --what? North Korea has invaded the South? --the national anthem is to be replaced by Cliff's Congratulations at the 2012 Olympics? No --it is indeed the dire news that another cloned beast has found its way into the food chain!!!!! Should we initiate a mass purge just in case --Then Eddie asks the question -"Isn't this just a fuss about nothing?" Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:56:19 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd 16Yeah, you'd get a free copy at the airport and muzak would play it 24/7.Meanwhile all we have is Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:55:55 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd The Professoriate from the Oxbridge P, P and E Departments admit their degrees are rubbish.'We're rubbish up against a woman with a chemistry degree. For 25 years now we've just got our students to read her every word' Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:49:53 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd PM attacks a Lib Dem politician. Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:46:21 GMT+1 cleverelliejo A severe food shortage would have people fighting in the aisles of the M. 6If foreigners are the ones that panic, it must be time to worry, as there is enough of them here. Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:42:56 GMT+1 The Intermittent Horse Sid - What if a compulsory Daily Mail gave away free CDs of Cliff's new release? Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:36:35 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd A Midsommer Murderer gets away with it. Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:34:20 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd The Ftse falling to its proper value. Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:29:07 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd PM exploiting the gap between how it is and how we might be persuaded to think it might be. From ONE beach, PM thinks it knows about Beaches Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:27:04 GMT+1 Sindy Horse - I'm torn between your 2 and your 14 ... either could have me fishing out my passport. Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:24:03 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd Stephan Fry taking over Tonight, AQ, The One Show, PM, WAO and Today.The regular announcement 'It's only for the summer' might not be effective. Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:21:21 GMT+1 The Intermittent Horse A new law obliging everyone over 16 to read the Daily Mail every day. Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:06:00 GMT+1 Sindy ' ... and now back to the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown ...' Thu 05 Aug 2010 13:04:44 GMT+1 AmbassadorDelenn Most of the things that become headline news in some of the tabloid newspapers (if you believe the headline news in those same tabloid newspapers, that is.....) Thu 05 Aug 2010 12:59:09 GMT+1 theotherdaughter Return of the poll tax. Thu 05 Aug 2010 12:54:13 GMT+1 Looternite 9. annaseeThey already do, but because it is the BBC these adverts are called "trailers". ;-) Thu 05 Aug 2010 12:39:55 GMT+1 annasee The news that, in an attempt to appeal to a wider audience and to balance the books at the BBC, Radio 4 is to carry 15 minutes' advertising every hour. Thu 05 Aug 2010 12:35:32 GMT+1 mittfh The outcome of the October Spending Review?Or perhaps if the OBR decide that deficit reduction is proceeding slower than planned, so Georgie decides that departments have to shave an average of 40% rather than the 20-25% they're already being encouraged to.Alternatively, reports of a deadly strain of influenza invading our shores. The media certainly attempted to create mass panic during H1N1 (and to a lesser extent H5N1), and during both those outbreaks and FMD, matters weren't helped by DEFRA policies (FMD in particular - slaughter all animals on any farm where an infected animal is found and burn the carcasses - I think at one stage they were advocating doing this on neighbouring farms as well) Thu 05 Aug 2010 12:19:49 GMT+1 Looternite What would cause mass panic today?I would say a half price sale at Primark! :-) Thu 05 Aug 2010 12:15:56 GMT+1 IMOORE Nothing, people might get mildly annoyed at being denied their daily fix of their soap, but panic? No, the British don't panic that's something foreigners do. Thu 05 Aug 2010 12:00:55 GMT+1 Galahad A lack of a scientific education among MPs and journalists would result in an inability to distinguish facts from non-news, PR drivel, propoganda and outright lies.This would lead to a worrying tendency for the media and governments (and most of the public) to ignore REAL experts, with the risk that a glut of misinformation could result in a panicking public making foolish decisions such as not giving our children MMR vaccines, questioning the science behind global warming or supporting war in the middle east...We should be grateful that an informed government and a watchful media has saved us from these eventualities. Thu 05 Aug 2010 11:52:06 GMT+1 Bizzie Lizzie Cloned killer bees - from France. Thu 05 Aug 2010 11:51:35 GMT+1 JackR Peter Mandelson or Jeffrey Archer as Prime Minister (trying to keep it balanced). Thu 05 Aug 2010 11:48:11 GMT+1 The Intermittent Horse A new single by Cliff Richard. Thu 05 Aug 2010 11:44:55 GMT+1 Looternite Silly season is upon us I see. Thu 05 Aug 2010 11:43:05 GMT+1