Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml en-gb 30 Fri 28 Aug 2015 18:09:03 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=97#comment43 BS 42, Hayward is in a pickle. Sat 19 Jun 2010 15:16:52 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=95#comment42 or even my grandfather Sat 19 Jun 2010 07:03:15 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=93#comment41 Is that Ted Danson's son sitting behind Mr. Hayward?Hayward - Didn't they used to make pickles? Hayward's Military Pickle - my granfather's favourite, as I remember. Sat 19 Jun 2010 07:02:27 GMT+1 The Stainless Steel Cat http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=90#comment40 Maybe we could do a deal with the US and swap Tony Hayward for Gary McKinnon?Actually, thinking about how the US authorities inflated the cost of damage done by McKinnon's hacking, I hope BP's lawyers are looking carefully at the breakdown of the compensation they're being forced to pay... Fri 18 Jun 2010 16:51:24 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=88#comment39 Mack, sadly I think it is the nature of the corporate world. Fri 18 Jun 2010 16:35:26 GMT+1 newlach http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=86#comment38 Does anyone know what the maximum fine is in the UK per barrel of oil spilled? Fri 18 Jun 2010 16:33:27 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=84#comment37 I'll bet BP are chuffed to see Total claiming tonight's spotlight!;-( Fri 18 Jun 2010 16:29:59 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=81#comment36 33. Lady SueAye, Milady, and you can rest assured that BP will seek recompense from it's contractors, who will in turn seek recompense from their sub-contractors, etc., until, in finally, the little guys at the point of the tools get it in the end, and the lawyers end up with all the money.Dividends can then resume. Fri 18 Jun 2010 15:40:49 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=79#comment35 PN 28, Sid is always a big help... Fri 18 Jun 2010 15:35:43 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=77#comment34 tid 21, I spilled my tea today. Fri 18 Jun 2010 15:34:27 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=75#comment33 PN 13,Yeah, I'm used to the BBC and a lot of British newspapers being anti-US all the time. NOw a Brit is being picked on... Fri 18 Jun 2010 15:33:29 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=72#comment32 Mack@30: interesting and apt quote. Fri 18 Jun 2010 15:21:35 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=70#comment31 31. redheylinThanks, Red! BP too! Fri 18 Jun 2010 14:24:45 GMT+1 Redheylin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=68#comment30 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torrey_Canyon Fri 18 Jun 2010 14:15:00 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=65#comment29 How many times do we have to say it? BPAmoco is a corporation, an entity specifically designed to enjoy all the rights of a living thing, but with strictly limited responsibility. It is a thing beyond such obsolete concepts as "country" or "nation", a pile of money with the single guiding principle of becoming a bigger pile of money. Growth is its prime directive, a property it shares with cancer."..if you should undertake to appeal or complain to one of these great corporations on behalf of your community, you would discover something most remarkable: you would find that these organizations are organized expressly for the evasion of responsibility. They are structures in which, as my brother says, "the buck never stops." The buck is processed up the hierarchy until finally it is passed to "the shareholders," who characteristically are too widely dispersed, too poorly informed, and too unconcerned to be responsible for anything. The ideal of the modern corporation is to be (in terms of its own advantage) anywhere and (in terms of local accountability) nowhere.-- Wendell Berry"Geddit? Fri 18 Jun 2010 14:04:52 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=63#comment28 So all those Americans rounding on him are Daily Mail readers, or they just sound like it? Fri 18 Jun 2010 14:03:03 GMT+1 DiY http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=61#comment27 Thanks Sid;-) Fri 18 Jun 2010 13:52:24 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=59#comment26 Anne@6: ..."there is a serious point to be made about cultural differences" I couldn't agree more. While watching I couldn't help but be impressed by Tony Hayward's calm and dignified reserve while facing an on-going tirade, not to mention his intelligent and perfectly reasonable responses. The Senators, by comparison, came across as bombastic buffoons. Fri 18 Jun 2010 13:03:58 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=56#comment25 The trunk is in the other's bootie? Fri 18 Jun 2010 12:43:28 GMT+1 Sindy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=54#comment24 P Nutt:The shoe* is on the other foot?The shoe calling the foot black?*boot in English Fri 18 Jun 2010 12:31:52 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=52#comment23 Thanks for the link, Jonnie. Pity there's no column for the responsible corporation.Looks like a lot of the stuff being spilt. Fri 18 Jun 2010 12:21:21 GMT+1 jonnie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=50#comment22 Re; Anne P #22There is a list here of oil spills which may be of interest... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oil_spills Fri 18 Jun 2010 12:08:48 GMT+1 Anne P http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=47#comment21 Sorry a bit late for today's programme, but could PM find out just how many undersea blow-outs there have been say in the last twenty years. Where were they and did we ever get to hear about them? There was something I heard the other day about another one some years ago in the Gulf of Mexico but it affected the Mexican coast not the US.... Fri 18 Jun 2010 11:51:56 GMT+1 terryindorset http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=45#comment20 I'm sick of listening to Americans bleating on about this oil spill in the Gulf of MEXICO. All oil companies spill millions of barrels of the stuff all over the world - it's what they do. Noticable by its absence is any mention of Bhopal - a catastrophe perteptrated by an American Company to whit, Union Carbide, who walked away & left multitudes injured & without adequate compensation. Did we hear the clamour from the US to get that company to pay up ? I think not.So a few well-heeled (in comparison) Americans are being incovenienced for a short while? Tough. Had they been more helpful over the Bhopal incident I'd have more sympathy to the damage the seeping oil will do to their livelhoods. As it is all I can muster is "Tough" & shudder at the devastation the wildlife will suffer. Had the US not been so greedy for the oil this might not have happened. Don't blame BP. I say, blame yourselves & your greed. You brought it on yourselves.My advice to BP is to repeat ad nauseam "BHOPAL" & shame the bullying Yanks into silence. Fri 18 Jun 2010 11:25:28 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=43#comment19 All you need to know? Four minutes of a blank screen?Huffpost is American technology!;-) Fri 18 Jun 2010 11:16:17 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=40#comment18 That BP/Amoco has the worst safety record in the oil industry is an inconvenient truth. And it was true BEFORE the present fiasco. Fri 18 Jun 2010 10:57:16 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=38#comment17 It's no different from that Banker that they had in the other week when being grilled about the subprime mortgages queried whether the question pertained to the orientation of a desk. Fri 18 Jun 2010 10:54:26 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=36#comment16 That NIMBYs complained about inshore oil rigs where it's cheaper and easier to extract oil is an Inconvenient Truth? Fri 18 Jun 2010 10:13:36 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=34#comment15 Perhaps we should send Hugh Sykes to do a report about the pollution on the Niger Delta? Fri 18 Jun 2010 10:09:11 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=31#comment14 Perhaps they should see if that unelected little dictator that runs Equitorial Guinea that they have no qualms buying oil and gas from or giving finance to can ramp up his oil production? Fri 18 Jun 2010 09:44:35 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=29#comment13 'He was coached'?And haven't US companies ever coached their staff before such appearances?Nick Fry of Brawn GP?? He used to work for Ford, when some Ford faced a recall for something or other he was coached before being grilled by Ann Robinson on Watchdog?'He was coached before the appearance'?So what? Fri 18 Jun 2010 09:41:58 GMT+1 DiY http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=27#comment12 9 davmcn....Shoe and foot comes to mind.? Fri 18 Jun 2010 09:36:19 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=25#comment11 Because BP just extract oil so they can drink it all themselves don't they?Where was the oil going?NIMBYs?It's OK to trash to Iraq though isn't it?I am not sure how making BP pay for the damage fits with 'We'll rebuild Iraq for them once we've trashed the place'? Fri 18 Jun 2010 09:34:56 GMT+1 Trevor Mansell http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=22#comment10 Looks like the blame game to me. At present no one knows why the rig exploded. The US is obviously seeking a scapegoat before all the facts are known. There was a fire recently on one of the ships collecting the oil from the leaking well. The cause - a lightning strike. The same could have happened to the rig. Were there any survivors from the fire to give evidence?The US Senate is assuming negligence, cost cutting, etc, before a full investigation of the disaster is completed. If it is then found that BP was to blame in any way, that's when BP should be bought to book. Fri 18 Jun 2010 09:13:18 GMT+1 DiY http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=20#comment9 8 Lepus_Madidus.....and don't forget the American non military agency that is using armed unmanned aerial drones to kill hundreds of Pakistani civilians. Fri 18 Jun 2010 09:02:46 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=18#comment8 Oh dearie me, somebody is picking on a poor Brit. Shoe and foot comes to mind. Fri 18 Jun 2010 08:58:01 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=15#comment7 We need to start frowning harshly now at any signs of public emotion and that Princess Di shared public grief nonsense otherwise we'll end up like the Americans.Let that be a warning to you.If they want to lynch a Director of an oil company what do they expect for their comeuppance for their illegal invasion of Iraq? Fri 18 Jun 2010 08:29:01 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=13#comment6 What a joke!Are all those American Senators tearing the BP off a strip frustrated actors.Well you could have oil rigs closer inshore, but.....You pays your money and takes your choice.I think belittling that chap consider their illegal invasion is very questionable. The American blindspot is as big as their continent?If that's what Americans are really like what were we thinking going into Iraq with them?Earlier in the year Henry Winkler (The Fonz) was being interviewed by Graham Norton on R2. Winkler was appearing here as Captain Hook in a Pantomime. They discussed the British nature of Pantomime and how they don't have them in the US.Sorry, but that sounded like a pantomime. Fri 18 Jun 2010 08:24:48 GMT+1 Anne P http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=11#comment5 5 - not to mention the behaviour of American oil companies, Union Carbide etc etc...However, while Tony Hayward's defensiveness may have been made the more so by threats of criminal prosecution I think there is a serious point to be made about cultural differences in these situations. Brits tend to like people who are low key and restrained, I'm not sure that plays so well in the US. There's a Camus novel I read years ago (sorry not sure which one) that begins with the main character being condemned to death because he did not cry at his mother's funeral. Perhaps Tony Hayward would have fared better if he had either cried or hit back. I don't know if anyone does yet know what caused the blow out, but it is human nature to want instant answers and someone who denies them access to such is likely to be hung out to dry. Fri 18 Jun 2010 08:18:34 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=9#comment4 Think Tony Hayward acquitted himself extremely well under a hostile barrage from a team who are clearly looking for a scapegoat. Agree that BP made mistakes but they have been doing everything they can to rectify them since the oil leak. The constant media focus on BP comes under the politics of "find a common enemy". As I commented elsewhere, I suspect what might be behind all this is an attempt to deflect the American publics' attention away from the recent Israeli business, oh and the war(s)in the middle east. Fri 18 Jun 2010 07:57:18 GMT+1 funnyJoedunn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=6#comment3 You see how much worse things can be when companies are allowed willy nilly to claim green, environmental and grown up social responsibility without proper accountability and scrutiny. And perhaps more important, to be stopped from making such claims until they can unequivocally prove such things. BP seems not to have been the company that it's adverts would lead us to belive. How many more BPs are out there in other industries who because they are allowed to make dubious social claims actually start believing their own deluded propaganda. Pity in this situation its a bit like the pot calling the kettle. Fri 18 Jun 2010 07:22:25 GMT+1 funnyJoedunn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=4#comment2 I hear we might have to wait till august though before the leaks fixed. Fri 18 Jun 2010 07:11:19 GMT+1 funnyJoedunn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=2#comment1 #1but its only June. Fri 18 Jun 2010 07:10:17 GMT+1 DiY http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/too_busy_to_watch_all_that_bp.shtml?page=0#comment0 Ah! The Huffington Post, such an august organ!;-) Fri 18 Jun 2010 06:56:34 GMT+1