Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml en-gb 30 Sun 28 Dec 2014 01:49:04 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=97#comment42 EtE 38, Labour lost. Tue 15 Jun 2010 16:41:28 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=95#comment41 Are we ever going to hear the end of this Irish stuff? Tue 15 Jun 2010 16:40:45 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=93#comment40 39. davmcn"Labour lost."But, but, but an absolute majority thought they were voting for Labour (or something like it, at least!);-) Tue 15 Jun 2010 16:08:21 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=90#comment39 BS 20, At least they can't play the 'V' and sing at the same time. Tue 15 Jun 2010 16:05:16 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=88#comment38 Ete 38, Give it up, Labour lost. Tue 15 Jun 2010 16:02:16 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=86#comment37 The newly established Lib Dem Con trick or two Office for Budgetry Forecast will explain how it makes its forecasts without the ONS inflation figures.Actually the Office's methods are fairly straightforward:The economy grew more than expected? Then...cuts to make way for the growthThe economy grew less than expected. Then....cuts to stop the private sector being crowded outInflation is greater than expected.. Then ...cuts to make way for private sector growthInflation is less than expected. Then...cuts because the private sector is discouraged by high government spending.Unemployment is up. Then ..cuts to stop governement spending crowding out private investment.Unemployment is down. Then...cuts to stop government spending overhearting the economy.Yep, you've got it. No matter the economic fact (a fairly flexible notion for the Lib Dem Con men's Lib Dem con men like Micheal Alexander Brown, expenses experts like Laws and Two Timing Main House man Alexander (no blood relationship between them)) it proves we've got to make cuts. It's the same wiffle we got from these neo classical con men in the eighties and nineties.Meanwhile, evidently the Labour Government had got growth on course and inflation down. (So...cuts 'cos there's no need for nanny state economics)For their part, the private sector is supposed to be self correcting if only governments would get out of the way. Well, it is, if slump is what you see as correct. For we're back on Tory track for it, courtesy of the Lib Dems. The private sector is on industrial investment strike.We're in the phase of establishing surplus value by making workers worse off. Lower wages, poorer working conditions and practices, less public welfare.....cuts!!! Tue 15 Jun 2010 15:50:23 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=83#comment36 WORLD NEWS Israel Eases Embargo To Allow Snack FoodKnesset to rule on hors d'oeuvres next week.U. S. NEWS Government Deploys Drones To Patrol U.S.-Mexico BorderOperated remotely from Afghanistan. Tue 15 Jun 2010 15:09:29 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=81#comment35 29. Mack O DamiaPerhaps you can tell your mate Kenneth Roy that not everyone in Scotland is a chip laden Anglophobic racist.Engerland, Engerland, Engerlaaand. You've got to be in it to win it. Tue 15 Jun 2010 14:41:31 GMT+1 Sid http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=79#comment34 DoctorDoolittle - I didn't know you were a zeta! Tue 15 Jun 2010 13:55:28 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=76#comment33 31: Roger tells us (on the PM Glass Box) that it was 'She'll be coming round the Mountain' - and I could certainly hear more than one note being played! Tue 15 Jun 2010 13:52:55 GMT+1 mittfh http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=74#comment32 Post 24 (ExpectingtheEnd)Maybe someone could develop versions of the vu "tuned" to different pitches, perhaps harmonics of B♭3 (233Hz)...:evil: Tue 15 Jun 2010 13:49:18 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=72#comment31 Did you see that vuvuzela player last night on Newsnight? Tue 15 Jun 2010 13:47:58 GMT+1 mittfh http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=69#comment30 Regarding the ukulele 'alternative' to vuvuzelas, the mashup played last night would be very unrealistic, as most uke players wouldn't continually strum a single note!Just bring on the UOGB about half an hour before the match starts, and at the very least they can be strumming the main theme from the fourth movement of Ludwig's ninth symphony :)Or, if their team were doing badly, they could try the main theme from the first movement of his fifth symphony...Meanwhile, over at SW19 next week, if a player's doing badly, they could possibly strum the Presto from Vivaldi's Concerto No. 2 in G minor or, if you wanted to keep the Beethoven theme, the Allegro (fourth movement) from his sixth symphony, in a bid to buy the player some rest time... :) Tue 15 Jun 2010 13:42:23 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=67#comment29 Apparently the next Nike ad features Ronaldinho and his enormous teeth singing:Now I go playing football, to earn an honest bob,For a football player it's an interesting job...etc...Vuvuzela players too, you should hear them "voo, voo, voo!"If they could do what I can do, when I'm playing football! Tue 15 Jun 2010 13:04:09 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=65#comment28 For looternite;-) Tue 15 Jun 2010 13:01:24 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=62#comment27 21: Thank you, very good! I don't have a ukulele, but could try it on my rather basic mandolin (if all the strings are still intact) ;o) Tue 15 Jun 2010 12:47:16 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=60#comment26 I'm glad I hate football; but it keeps the epsilons happy. No surprise a one-note noise is all they can manage. Tue 15 Jun 2010 12:20:04 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=58#comment25 In five years Nigel Wench will be telling us about the Vuvuzela classical concert being given at Scaborough Ats Festival....Heh. Which raises the question: how come a vuvuzela only plays one note? It's effectively a plastic bugle, but a bugle can play all the notes of a major triad (C, E, G). Where are the harmonics? Tue 15 Jun 2010 11:58:45 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=55#comment24 Retirement income is always a claim on current output.Whether from tax or from a pension pot, from interest or capital, the goods consumed by pensioners are a part of current production.Which means that, when we are in trade balance, that waht pensioners consume is a part of currewnt workers' efforts here, in effect.The fundamental question then is this. What part of our current effort should be devoted to pensioners?And a fundamental answer is that, whatever it is, it should be divided equally among them.Let's assume for the moment that what we do give to pensioners (via state pension, state employment and private sector pensions,, tax or savings, employee or employer contributed), in total, is about right.Then next comes the question of retirement age. It clearly should not be inversely related to how cushy the job was, which it appears to be at the moment - if anything the exact opposite should apply.The question of who does what for how much is not settled and spills (nay, pours) over into questions about retirement. Indeed it is THAT that causes all our current confusions - for example over retirement age differences.Nonetheless, it is clear that a fully equal society is the only fair way to treat pensions, just like it is everything else. How the pensions are funded is of little interest ultimately when questions of equality and economic justice are settled. Tue 15 Jun 2010 11:56:36 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=53#comment23 In five years Nigel Wench will be telling us about the Vuvuzela classical concert being given at Scaborough Ats Festival.......only to be told there was an identical one in Orlando, Soweto, two yeas previously, no doubt. Tue 15 Jun 2010 11:52:20 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=51#comment22 21. ExpectingtheEndLooks like Big Sister has a family interest in Ukuleles. ;-) Tue 15 Jun 2010 11:50:55 GMT+1 Mack O Damia http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=48#comment21 Getting a lot of these today. This might be because: * We are experiencing abnormal traffic to our network or * the service or servers it is on is not currently available.Please try the following options instead: * Try again later once we have solved the problem. * Use our site indexIs this the thin edge of a resistance to the coming cuts? A go-slow in the robotic server section?;-) Tue 15 Jun 2010 11:42:11 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=46#comment20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7ZUYfGxyl0Hear, here? Tue 15 Jun 2010 11:26:31 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=44#comment19 No, David, I want them because they don't deafen the listener, and are perhaps the most ridiculous, yet funny, instrument. What was good enough for Tiny Tim is good enough for me! :o) Tue 15 Jun 2010 10:44:46 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=41#comment18 You want to hear bees in a bucket, listen to a group of hurdy gurdys.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIoz3gKHN9M&feature=related Tue 15 Jun 2010 10:42:27 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=39#comment17 BS 12, You only want ukuleles because they start with UK. Tue 15 Jun 2010 10:35:12 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=37#comment16 Ln 9, What exciting action? Tue 15 Jun 2010 10:33:53 GMT+1 IMOORE http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=34#comment15 "Still apparently it's African culture so we have to grin and bear it."But its a World cup, not an African Cup, so sure have their vuvuzelas in their African games, but don't bring them to the other nations games, in these they should respect the culture and tradions of those supporters. Respecting the other cultures would make the World cup a richer experience as we would get to hear the supporting traditions of the other nations, rather than as is nowe everything being obliterated by noise of the vuvuzelas. Tue 15 Jun 2010 10:28:24 GMT+1 Ellis P Otter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=32#comment14 12 - Big Sis, yep that's the kind of odd coincidence that triggered my little grey cells.Seemingly many of the conspiracists are onto it already too which pretty much guarantees an umarked grave in the BBC News cemetry. Tue 15 Jun 2010 10:13:04 GMT+1 U14519596 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=30#comment13 4. Ellis P Otter"I rather anticipate that tonight's PM may be dominated by the Saville report to be released this afternoon."As presciently predicted by Eddie's post which is itself predicted to appear. Will we have to await it as long as Lord Saville's effort? Tue 15 Jun 2010 10:00:08 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=27#comment12 Looking at what I can find about the BBC plans for vuvuzela-free matches, I see the idea is to strip out all ambient sound, leaving only commentary. Could make for a rather sterile viewing experience, I fear.Thinking on, if the BBC and other foreign broadcasters could persuade FIFA to institute 'vuvuzela-free' sections in the grounds, ambient microphones could be placed nearer to them to allow the sound from these sections to be be balanced against the vuvuzela noise from the other sections. Doing this would enable broadcasters to put back some of the crowd reaction that is an important part of watching football on TV, while retaining the vuvuzela atmosphere in the ground.Bish, bash, bosh! Job's a good 'un!Now, about that budget deficit... Tue 15 Jun 2010 09:19:10 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=25#comment11 11: But that 'stunning mineral wealth' has been known about for centuries. Just as the Chinese knew of the stunning mineral wealth of Tibet. Strange how, suddenly, 'thirteenth century' countries suddenly have an appeal to major powers, isn't it? Tue 15 Jun 2010 09:17:48 GMT+1 Ellis P Otter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=23#comment10 Somebody, I forget who, pointed this story out already US discovers stunning mineral wealth in Afghanistan and I've been trying to find more and a balanced view.It concerns me that it is an element of the American military that is tasked to carry out mineral surveys, presumably at American taxpayer cost, to the benefit of whom? Presumably, again I stress insufficient hard evidence but going on experience, these deposits will be sold off to private enterprise.It just seems odd to me and outwith the stated reasons for the mission. I'd like an investigation, perhaps an entire documentary at some point. Tue 15 Jun 2010 09:13:03 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=20#comment9 4. Ellis P OtterOh yes, what a Lawyerfest that inquiry turned out to be. Tue 15 Jun 2010 09:10:51 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=18#comment8 8. GiulioNapolitaniThe world Cup matches I have watched I have observed 2 things regarding the vuvuzela.1) you don't hear any roar from the crowd, when the action is exciting, just the constant buzz.2) So far when ever the cameras show the spectators you never see anyone with these instruments. Are they all behind the comentators boxes?Still apparently it's African culture so we have to grin and bear it. Tue 15 Jun 2010 09:08:44 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=16#comment7 Yes, I suppose that Saville will dominate tonight, but harking on last night's topics again - how exactly is the BBC planning to broadcast vuvuzela-free matches? Will the ambient sound feed from the games simply be turned off, giving us matches with commentary only accompanied by a resounding silence? Or will the 233Hz frequency be knocked down/out on the ambient sound feed, giving us what's left? Watching at home, it's quite important to have some sense of crowd reaction, which is what the vuvuzela takes away - so as well as knocking down the honking, you would need to place ambient microphones near sections of the crowd where they were not present.On reflection, this probably isn't the ideal place for this... Look, kittens! Tue 15 Jun 2010 08:56:30 GMT+1 Mindclearly http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=13#comment6 5. You beat me to it, funny that the current government may be powerless on this too. Credit card slots by your tv next to see broadcast news, it the way forward!! Tue 15 Jun 2010 08:55:58 GMT+1 tessa http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=11#comment5 I don't really get it. Where do I have to be to join the Glass Box-talk of 11. pm? Tue 15 Jun 2010 08:55:25 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=9#comment4 Well, Well, didn't take long before we learn why News group so desparately wanted Tories in power, Murdoch wants total control of Sky. Shamron and the Tories will have to declare an interest surely. Tue 15 Jun 2010 08:15:28 GMT+1 Ellis P Otter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=6#comment3 I rather anticipate that tonight's PM may be dominated by the Saville report to be released this afternoon.Being as I'm told the report will consist of many thousands of words, I am sure that even the BBC experts won't have time to perform a detailed analysis of its content by the time PM comes to air.So please team, please keep the idle speculation from so-called experts to an utter minimum. There is no need to just go poking wound before you even know what's in there. Tue 15 Jun 2010 08:07:57 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=4#comment2 2. I think so, it's also because of monumental arrogance and self regard from a life of privilege. I switch off every time I hear his ludicrous diction. Why he was employed by the BBC remains a mystery. Tue 15 Jun 2010 07:59:25 GMT+1 Alan_N http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=2#comment1 Does Robert Peston talk like that because he's making it up as he goes along? ;-) Tue 15 Jun 2010 07:39:02 GMT+1 DiY http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/am_glass_box_125.shtml?page=0#comment0 You spent how much!! Tue 15 Jun 2010 06:54:47 GMT+1