Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml en-gb 30 Sun 05 Jul 2015 07:52:56 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=96#comment26 26. Tufty Ears"Good reporting right now on Radio4!"Listen here Thu 10 Jun 2010 11:18:35 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=92#comment25 Good reporting right now on Radio4! Thu 10 Jun 2010 10:11:59 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=88#comment24 And, from another oldie but goodie,"Palestine and Israel remained in the back of my mind until 1982 when I learned of the massacres in Sabra and Shatila [Lebanese Phalangists, with the assistance of Israel's military, massacred 3,500 Palestinians in these two refugee camps in the south of Lebanon].I asked myself: What was that about? What happened between 1948 and 1982? And as I learned more, I became increasingly more upset with Israel's military and their policies. As I understood more, I began to speak out against these policies...." Wed 09 Jun 2010 20:21:40 GMT+1 Gillianian http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=85#comment23 Thank you to whoever decided to consign this item to the Blog - it would have been a pity to have lost it altogether. Wed 09 Jun 2010 19:06:50 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=81#comment22 22. lucien desgai"Helen Thomas's role in Stephen Colbert's White House Correspondents' Association 'tribute' to George W Bush."Thanks for that! Wed 09 Jun 2010 18:53:58 GMT+1 lucien desgai http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=77#comment21 19 GalahadI've criticised a poster on this blog who chooses to associate himself with the remarks which Ms Thomas has since regretted and apologised for, however ...I find myself in considerable sympathy with Helen Thomas, a journalist whon I've long been aware of and admired. I've no doubt that her regret is genuine, as is her reiterated commitment to middle east peace. I also hope that, despite her grand age, she'll find some way to continue to report and comment on US and world affairs.Those who haven't seen it may enjoy watching Helen Thomas's role in Stephen Colbert's White House Correspondents' Association 'tribute' to George W Bush.http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869183917758574879# Wed 09 Jun 2010 18:37:10 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=74#comment20 19: Spot on! Wed 09 Jun 2010 18:32:36 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=70#comment19 Well said, Sir Galahad. Wed 09 Jun 2010 18:00:26 GMT+1 Galahad http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=66#comment18 I dislike the social attitudes and styles of government of most of Israel's neighbours. Irael (and the West, generally) need to recognise, however, that Irael's problems with them are largely of Israel's own making.If Israel were to give up it's claims to Palestinian lands and withdraw to the 1967 borders (in keeping with UN requirements) it's problems would be dramatically reduced.Israels refusal to 'lose face' by taking this step and it's insistence on using overpowering (and often illegal) force to maintain it's position will ensure that the violence continues and escalates indefinitely.Helen Thomas's comments may have been ill-advised and intemperate, but they stem from the very real frustration and anger felt by any objective observer of Israel's position. Wed 09 Jun 2010 17:48:03 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=62#comment17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xF92JKKlfRM Wed 09 Jun 2010 17:37:32 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=59#comment16 16. lucien desgai"Nudge nudge, wink wink."By their works shall ye know them. Wed 09 Jun 2010 17:34:58 GMT+1 lucien desgai http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=55#comment15 The 'chosen state' eh, Tufty? Nudge nudge, wink wink. Wed 09 Jun 2010 17:27:00 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=51#comment14 13. vainly_here"but to speak of piracy is just plain daft."but to engage in piracy is OK if you are the chosen state, and under the special dispensation to commit murder and mayhem. Wed 09 Jun 2010 16:07:23 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=48#comment13 13. vainly_here"Did no-one watch the video mentioned recently by Scotch-Git?"A remarkably emotional and biased effort indeed. Did anyone check out the other "In their own words" link? Wed 09 Jun 2010 16:05:02 GMT+1 vainly_here http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=44#comment12 By all means criticise Israel for its faults or failings, but to speak of piracy is just plain daft.TE's favoured arrangement is reminiscent of Aristophanes. Did no-one watch the video mentioned recently by Scotch-Git? Wed 09 Jun 2010 15:56:21 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=40#comment11 A shrewd Shrew, methinks. Peace, my Sister. Wed 09 Jun 2010 15:19:33 GMT+1 Gyro-11 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=37#comment10 I acknowledge my numeracy skills may be suspect. Three things not a couple. Wed 09 Jun 2010 14:51:18 GMT+1 Gyro-11 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=33#comment9 Interesting not many posters. That's not like PM posters! Just a couple of things:1. re vainly_here's request to avoid using inaccurate and emotive words about Israel.Why is it that Israel always has to be a special case, the one exception? And we all have to cringe and tread softly? Naive and rhetorical I know but...2. It's interesting how two countries that shout rather loudly about being democracies and lands of the free (Israel particularly likes to contrast itself favourably with its neighbours) come crushingly down on anyone that expresses a 'contrary' opinion. Don't construe this as to mean I agree with what Ms Thomas said but I think she was PERFECTLY ENTITLED to say it. Perhaps her faux pas was to utter it on camera to a rabbi in the vicinity of the Whitehouse...not the smartest thing she'll reflect on in her retirement. Contrast her vilification with how right-wingers uttering often outrageous comments about Palestinians in particular and Arabs in general are treated. 3. With Israel I do think we have a perfect case of the tail wagging the dog (or many dogs as in most of the rest of the world). Thankfully some dogs are getting rather tired of it AT LAST but the biggest dog of all is destined still to get further punishment until it can be brave enough to shake off certain lobbies, media myopia and oh I think that dog is going to be wagged for a good while yet. Wed 09 Jun 2010 14:14:33 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=29#comment8 3. lucien desgai"Do you favour the removal of Jews from Israel/Palestine?"It would be simple reciprocity, but no, I favour a single bi-national democratic state with equal rights for all, regardless of ethnicity or religion and the right of return for refugees. Wed 09 Jun 2010 12:30:17 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=25#comment7 6. vainly_here"Do avoid using inaccurate and emotive words about Israel, please."It might cost me my press credentials? Emotive, sure, but inaccurate? Not really - no better term available. Wed 09 Jun 2010 12:27:52 GMT+1 Fearless Fred http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=22#comment6 It's good to see that Israel is loosening their blocade by allowing some goods in. Of course, we can all see that "soda, juice, jam, spices, shaving cream, chips crisps to you and me, cookies and sweets" can so easily be classified as "dual use" items that could be used to make crude missiles.... Wed 09 Jun 2010 11:39:10 GMT+1 vainly_here http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=18#comment5 TE Did you answer Question 3?I doubt if anyone supports piracy, other than pirates, of course. Do avoid using inaccurate and emotive words about Israel, please. Wed 09 Jun 2010 11:31:53 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=14#comment4 I used to know a Helen Thomas. Wed 09 Jun 2010 11:17:34 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=11#comment3 Yes, Eddie, thanks for the links. From Huffpost's Rabbi,"It will be interesting to see how President Obama, who could not offer a single word of support for Israel since the flotilla affair, will react."(my emphasis)How can anyone offer support for piracy? Just goes to show how totally un-critical of Israel everyone is expected to be.Grrrr! I know how she felt! Wed 09 Jun 2010 10:38:23 GMT+1 lucien desgai http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=7#comment2 2 TEDo you favour the removal of Jews from Israel/Palestine? Wed 09 Jun 2010 10:25:31 GMT+1 U14450706 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=3#comment1 "Perhaps the best evidence that Thomas had lost touch was her failure to understand the consequences of saying that Israel's Jews should go back to Poland and Germany to a rabbi with a video camera at a White House event to mark Jewish heritage month. It is possible that given her Lebanese background, that is what she has thought all along. But she should not have been surprised at the storm of protest.Donaldson, who describes Thomas as a friend, said that while he would not defend her comments..."I would. It's nothing to do with antiSemitism, but with violent colonialism. Wed 09 Jun 2010 10:22:42 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/06/helen_thomas.shtml?page=0#comment0 What an amazing woman! Thanks for the links, Eddie - the White House has probably breathed a sigh of relief at her demise, but she has been a necessary thorn in their sides over forty years and more, and the press conferences will be diminished by her absence.It's a pity it had to end in that way, but she clearly overstepped the mark in that last act of defiance. Wed 09 Jun 2010 08:34:05 GMT+1