Comments for en-gb 30 Thu 05 Mar 2015 20:34:40 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at Looternite 57. Big SisterThanks for the idea, I have now clicked on the name and it looks like someone forgets their medication often.58 davmcnNo it was not me. Mon 12 Apr 2010 09:08:17 GMT+1 davmcn BS 57, PS Buns that most women would be proud to look at. (not that I noticed) Mon 12 Apr 2010 09:04:04 GMT+1 davmcn Bs 57, Their is only a 'rear' view of the noodie man in Luton in The Indy, but I'll bet it is Looter. Mon 12 Apr 2010 09:02:01 GMT+1 Big Sister 55 - Looternite, I didn't see the post that was removed and which provoked your response, but from the comments by Galahad and DavMcN it all sounds very unpleasant. Clicking on the offender's name, it would appear s/he's got form. Mon 12 Apr 2010 08:09:24 GMT+1 abubbler On the day of the publication of election manifestos I think listeners would be interested to hear why politicians think the electorate should believe what they say, in view of the major storm last year over the broken manifesto commitment to hold a referendum on the EU Accession Treaty Mon 12 Apr 2010 07:31:39 GMT+1 Looternite 51. cassandrinaWhat a pack of lies you tell.I ralely go to any other websites. Please post links to these other websites, so we can view your evidence.Please retract your lies as I am most certainly am not a rabid leftie.I expect an apology from you as once again I repeat I am most certainly am not a rabid leftie. Just because I am not a fan of Dave Shamron does not make me a rabid leftie.If there is an imposter out there I need to know because I can tell you this it aint me.You need to apologise as you are so wrong.In the past I have been accused by lefties of being a Tory. BNP and NF supporters have accused me of being a commie, so I must be nicely in the centre.You need to apologise now. Sat 10 Apr 2010 11:08:19 GMT+1 davmcn Make that Cary Gooper. Sat 10 Apr 2010 10:59:01 GMT+1 davmcn c 51, I met Looter in person recently and he certainly wasn't foaming at the mouth. He might be a bit to the left of me, but then I'm a Lib Dem member. Eddie doesn't get instructions from God. Sat 10 Apr 2010 10:52:51 GMT+1 Galahad 51 cassandrina: Who acknowledges Looternite as a 'rabid lefty'? Only those who aren't aware that he's had all his shots, surely.Can you please cite examples of your woldwide blogosphere sources, so that we can assess their impartiality? Otherwise I may be tempted to believe they are written by "rabid rightys" (with the alliteration, you'd think that phrase would work better than it does...) Sat 10 Apr 2010 09:24:14 GMT+1 cassandrina This post has been Removed Sat 10 Apr 2010 07:55:41 GMT+1 Sindy Lepus - just for clarity, 'lower' in your quote means 'worse'. Fri 09 Apr 2010 20:46:40 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus How many 'Efficiency Savings' are there to be had from culling the Quangos? Fri 09 Apr 2010 16:55:12 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus Did Eddie read out an Email from someone saying that forcing people to volunteer would go against the freedoms that our forefathers fought for?They fought for this:'Former Information Commissioner Richard Thomas warned in 2006 that the UK is "sleepwalking into a surveillance society". The same year a ranking of 37 countries by Privacy International identified the UK level of surveillance as "endemic", lower than any other EU country and at the same level as Russia, China and Singapore.' Fri 09 Apr 2010 16:53:48 GMT+1 davmcn Re PM: When did Gary Cooper work for the BBC? Fri 09 Apr 2010 16:47:19 GMT+1 davmcn Ln 28, EtE only talks to himself. Fri 09 Apr 2010 16:36:44 GMT+1 davmcn Ln,22, Compass, eh? I learned how to use a theodolite and used OS maps to find benchmarks. Fri 09 Apr 2010 16:34:11 GMT+1 Looternite 43. Ellis P OtterYou've got me thinking now. Hmm.... Ming Cambell and Lemsip Optic, maybe? Fri 09 Apr 2010 14:38:30 GMT+1 Ellis P Otter Hang on folks, I'm not suggesting that Lib Dems are aliens! That would be stretching statistics too far and MoreOrLessMan Tim Harford would not approve.Or maybe they are? *d e c C G* Fri 09 Apr 2010 14:34:06 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd A tax tends to discourage activity in a particular area and a subsidy to encourage it.Of course the tax can then be spent on things far more valuable to the community than the activity discouraged by it. For good or ill that discouragement is called the dead weight loss'.Equally a subsidy may bring about extra economic activity far more valuable to the community than the loss of pleasure of the rich who paid the tax.The 'discouragement' can be as little as zero as it is for NI in the way I showed in 41. Fri 09 Apr 2010 14:22:23 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd Top to bottom should be one to one.This VAT - NI thing.Given people want to work, and seeing the NI tax as a tax on the labour supply curve, which, then, is completely inelastic (vertical) the 'dead weight loss' is zero, whereas with VAT it's positive.It also means that NI does NOT result in job losses whereas VAT increases will.These uber-managers and entrpreneurs are proving they don't know what they're talking about. Their only claim to attention other than in the simple arithmetic of buying and selling is because the firms are privately owned and they're in charge, and that's an invalid one. NI will shift resources from rich to poor and the overpaid don't like it.So bring it on! Fri 09 Apr 2010 14:10:26 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani Ellis & #39Good point. It is well known that Michael Howard's constituency home was visited by a UFO back in the 1990s and 20% of the adult population must represent a fair few votes. Clearly this is something the major parties would do well to address in what could be a very tight race. Perhaps you can get a comment from Lembit Opik on the subject; this is usually his kind of territory. Fri 09 Apr 2010 14:03:28 GMT+1 Galahad 35 Ellis, your comment suggests that you may believe that the 20% of people who believe aliens are hiding among us are in error!But over 4 million US citizens have stated that they have personally been abducted and probed by aliens (!) and in the UK, how else would you explain the presence of Michael Howard or John Redwood? Fri 09 Apr 2010 12:58:23 GMT+1 vainly_here Galahad (37) Thanks for the arithmetic. I entirely agree with you. Fri 09 Apr 2010 12:57:58 GMT+1 Galahad 12 IMOORE... "The Conservative policy to limit the top public sector wages to 20 times that of the lowest is going to cause Labour some problems."Why? It is meaningless gesture, which will have no impact on public finances. In the NHS, for example, the poorest paid ancillary and secretarial staff earn about £13,250 pa.20X this would be £265,000 pa.How many senior NHS managers earn more than this?If Cameron truly wishes to create a more equal society, its the private sector, not the public, which he'll need to address. Fri 09 Apr 2010 12:47:25 GMT+1 vainly_here What is the point of sacking public employees? Most of them are reportedly paid so little that the difference between paying them their salaries (and deducting tax/NI) and paying them unemployment benefits would be marginal. Useful comments about salaries by Polly Toynbee on WatO just now. Fri 09 Apr 2010 12:36:04 GMT+1 Ellis P Otter 24 - Jo, please find about about the aliens disguised as human beings... it seems as many believe in them as believe in the LibDems and the political party gets plenty of coverage ;-)Yes, you're right. I'm still not taking this election seriously. I want to - I really do. Fri 09 Apr 2010 12:17:35 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani the 'ordinary people' having a chat on the tube or calling the radio phone-ins I should have added "or leaving comments on BBC blogs", of course... Fri 09 Apr 2010 11:51:55 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani SP: the point to the horizon. etc, etc... Fri 09 Apr 2010 11:37:35 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani #24: When? How far in advance can you plan it? etc etc.And how many private consultants will you then need to employ to check that the cuts you make represent real savings?Also, if you're still looking for vaguely relevant fillers you can do the facebook/punk political apathy thing. Have da yoof always been politically apathetic? Why are the parties so obsessed with young people when it is the older people who have the money and vote? Do we want the 'X-Factorisation' of politics? Etc, etc...More on the way politicians are trained to 'fake' sincerity by drama schools etc and the whole body language of power: the hand on the back, the wave to that special person in the crowd, he point to the horizon. etc, etc...And all those fake persuaders currently being recruited to do covert campaigning - the 'ordinary people' having a chat on the tube or calling the radio phone-ins who aren't quite as ordinary as they might appear.Really no shortage of ideas out there today. Fri 09 Apr 2010 11:36:44 GMT+1 MoC The verdict on Dave.. Sorry for reposting but I accidentally posted this on yesterday's Glass Box.So, a soft ride from Evan for Dave-boy.Nevertheless, some interesting revelations:1. Cameron resists taking responsibility for the hard stuff. All those nasty job cuts are not his - they are defined by 'experts'. So, we can assume Cameron regards himself and his shadow team as lacking expertise. In his world, it is experts who take responsibility / blame and governments are laisser-faire.2. He does not understand the numbers - they have been simplified for him into concepts such as "being on a permanently lower pathway".3. He really squirms and resists precision. That often happens with people who are a PR creation. No precision on numbers (perhaps he isn't very numerate?) and even no precision on his favourite newspaper.An effective attack strategy is clear against Dave: ask him extremely precise questions that require substantive answers; ask him about personal decision-making rather than advice from experts; test his basic arithmetic as often as possible.I think the result is predictable. Fri 09 Apr 2010 11:36:09 GMT+1 mittfh Righteo, you're after non-election news?How about the departure of Jack Duckworth from a certain Mancunian street?'s more chaos in Thailand: has picked up two trophies at the British Animation Awards: 19-year old German lost his pet snake. 3 weeks later, after authorities rip his flat apart, it's discovered (dead). Unfortunately it's going to cost him €100,000 to make his flat habitable again... iPhone OS 4.0 will include iAd. The fruity company have discovered users spend more time inside apps than on the 'net, so they're rolling out an adware platform... related to the election - a Labour PPC discovers to his cost it's not a good idea to foul-mouth your rivals on Twitter: Pym's look at efficiency savings: Fri 09 Apr 2010 11:20:56 GMT+1 funnyJoedunn Jo The editor,Can you ask somebody why none of the three main parties seem willing to tackle the obvious anomaly of universal child benefit (the old family allowance).I say this in the light of the ever creeping means testing in most areas of individual care such as for the elderly, disabled, etc. How much could be saved with a sensible policy? Why should people who can afford private schooling get child benefit for instance. Why should people with more than one home get it? And so on, and so on? Fri 09 Apr 2010 11:11:35 GMT+1 Looternite 27. ExpectingtheEndI actually worked for two and a half years on the track at Vauxhall (section 5, AC block, Trimshop) so I've done that, and it was also "Character forming". So I may have missed out on the University Arts degree that is usually required for Radio 4 comments, but I do have opinions and will nowadays speak out. I know that no one really listens or cares what my opinions are but at least I have a voice and am prepared to say something.Which brings me to the "Chattering Classes" my observation is this:Guardian readers seem to think that if you do not have an Arts degree you are uneducated.However Telegraph readers seem to consider that anyone who did not go to a posh school (Eton say) and get an Oxbridge degree then you are backward.But to all those sneering snobs, I will tell you this, we aint all thickoes you know Fri 09 Apr 2010 10:57:32 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd I know someone who is considering volantary work, they're well off for life with time on their hands. .Good for the CV apparently.What about canal litter squad duty, I suggested?Or giving a factory worker relief from the track by taking their place?For 40 years.He thought not.Any takers among the chattering classes? A PM appeal? What about some Cams? Fri 09 Apr 2010 10:42:05 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd Let's break into Madame Tussauds and melt down the Beatles with battery operated electrio heating tongs.Westwood's act of rememberance? Fri 09 Apr 2010 10:12:56 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd VAT versus NI, which is more progressive, who suffers? Impact on OAPs, minimum wage, the unemployed?Tory NHS saving recommended by chairperson of private health company which will benefit. Is Gershon objective?PR: THEY tell you what you get, what they've cooked up between themselves, AFTER you've voted for 'em in a hung Parliament - in any hung Parliament in fact.Banksters, corrupt MPs, warmongers, rich silver tongued idlers: Lest we forget. Fri 09 Apr 2010 10:08:22 GMT+1 Joker Morning froggers, morning all. Please play nicely. I am interested in what you want to hear on the programme tonight. Assuming you don't actually want a discussion of BBC bias, I'll tell you what I have in mind. Very keen on trying to get some information on the specifics of public spending efficiencies/ cuts- it's ambitious but I'm* determined to persuade the relevant advisers to the Conservatives and Labour to do their democratic duty and come and discuss with each other how you make cuts. When? How far in advance can you plan it? etc etc. Sequinn's on Barry Island. Not reporting, just having fun on the log flume I think. And more on PM's birthday. Non election and PM related stories?? a bientot,Jo* wonderful Manveen on it actually... Fri 09 Apr 2010 10:01:21 GMT+1 mittfh On to public sector reform. I don't know about civil servants, but at the local authority I work for, there is already have a team that examines each post vacated to see if the vacancy should be filled. If it does, the post is initially advertise it on the "redeployment list" (people whose jobs are being eliminated) before advertising externally.Already Homecare has been changed to a 12 week "Re-enablement" programme, with any further provision having to be met by the private sector. And further cuts are already planned - we apparently have to slim down 20% over the next five years - staff, resources and buildings. And there's a pay and conditions review in progress.Added onto this are major changes within adult social care as a whole. Demographics are giving us an older population, who will be increasingly reliant on social care. However, the available budget is decreasing. We're also rolling out "self directed support", "personalisation" and "individual budgets" - those in need of services will eventually be given a chunk of money to spend on their own care, and will be responsible for purchasing the services they need themselves. So the local authority will change from being a provider of services to being a commissioner of services.-oOo-One of the BBC's correspondents pointed out that the £2bn the Tories' advisor thinks can be saved by not filling vacant posts translates as 40,000 jobs. If there's a decree of "no more agency staff", what happens to all the people that work for the recruitment agencies? These are private sector businesses...They also want to create this national voluntary service thingy AND fund 200,000 extra school places - whilst also cutting taxes and the national debt. Unless they can quantitatively ease their own coffers, something else will have to have its budget slashed...And talking of education, if successful schools are allowed to expand while unsuccessful schools close, guess where all the disaffected children from the unsuccessful schools will be going to get educated? Yup - the successful school next door. So if such a scenario happens, then either statistics will be massaged or the successful schools will become slightly less successful... which will inevitably create a media outcry and immense political pressure to "do something"... Fri 09 Apr 2010 09:57:27 GMT+1 Looternite 21. davmcnThey did talk funny up there, but the food seemed normalish. Oh and we weren't allowed to smoke anything.Still I learn't useful survival skills like using a compass and map, living in a tent and cooking on a primus.That will probably come in useful when I retire, if the Tories win this election. Fri 09 Apr 2010 09:57:14 GMT+1 davmcn Ln 8, An outward bound trip to, er, um, ah, THE LAKE DISTRICT??!! And for a whole MONTH!! Run into any cannibals or man-eating animals? Try working on an archaeological site for a whole summer or longer. Now that's character building...depending on what you smoke. Fri 09 Apr 2010 09:39:56 GMT+1 mittfh Looternite @13: DC used to work in PR. 'Nuff said.Imoore @6: Brown has a very poor record? why does the OECD think we're doing better than most of the EuroZone in pulling out of recession?Back in May, the IMF said: "The aggressive actions by the authorities have been successful in containing the crisis and averting a systemic breakdown." It highlighted "tentative signs that confidence is improving and that the output decline is moderating", and concluded: "We expect the authorities to deliver stability and set the stage for a sustainable recovery."OK, so it was also concerned about high household debt and urged the government to tackle the National Debt, but if Gordon was as useless as the media have routinely claimed him to be ever since he came to power, would he have earned plaudits from those respectable organisations?I'm not saying Gordon is a saint - I'm still unhappy about ID cards, Trident renewal and the increasing number of Academies, but conversely Labour introduced the National Minimum Wage to much opposition from the Tories, and also started to introduce the New Diplomas in education - qualifications designed by industry sector skills councils and recommended by almost every stakeholder except the Tories, CBI and Institute of Directors. Fri 09 Apr 2010 09:34:28 GMT+1 davmcn FF 4, And Paxo completely ignores any Lib Dem on his programs. Fri 09 Apr 2010 09:32:55 GMT+1 Looternite Interesting that Dave Shamron would nominate this morning that Winston Churchill was our greatest Prime Minister in his opinion.Yet it was Churchill, yes Cameron Churchill, who led the Tories in their vehement opposition to the setting up of the NHS. People who lived through those days recall that the Churchill led Tories fought tooth and claw to prevent the Labour government setting up the NHS.Didn't mention that did you this morning. No, in reality Shamrons true hero is Thatcher, but of course he dare not mention her name. Fri 09 Apr 2010 09:32:05 GMT+1 Looternite 11. GiulioNapolitaniYou said "I look forward to hearing Nick Clegg being fluffed by Sarah Montague."So would I, that would be interesting. Fri 09 Apr 2010 09:24:33 GMT+1 Ellis P Otter And in other news it seems the politicos have missed what we mean when we say we're worried abour illegal aliens: exist and they live in our midst disguised as humans -- at least, that's what 20 percent of people polled in a global survey believe. Fri 09 Apr 2010 09:16:32 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani The Messiah of punk?Malcolm will return shortly... Fri 09 Apr 2010 09:04:54 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani And talking of Malcolm McClaren - an interesting juxtaposition of the news of his death and reminiscences of the punk generation with the launch of a Facebook campaign to get young people to register for the vote. Is it a sign of modern apathy, or does it just reflect the adage that politics is like plumbing - you only notice it when something goes badly wrong? That is to say, kids today aren't bothered about politics because things really aren't that bad for them. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:47:24 GMT+1 Looternite The problem with "Dave" Cameron is he reminds me of 1980's double glazing sales men. The told you what they thought you wanted to hear, offered unrepeatable deals, be all "chummy" and "Matey", tell you how rubbish the competition are, and gave the impression that they were on your side when getting down to the detail.But, oh Yes, But, they were only interested in you to do the "deal". They only wanted the sale so they can get their commission. Once the deal is done they are off never to be seen again.That unfortunately is the impression I get about Cameron. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:46:30 GMT+1 IMOORE The Conservative policy to limit the top public sector wages to 20 times that of the lowest is going to cause Labour some problems. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:44:38 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani #1Never mind the VAT, Evan Davis forgot to ask CallmeDave if he could tickle his tummy. I look forward to hearing Nick Clegg being fluffed by Sarah Montague. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:39:06 GMT+1 Looternite 4. Fearless FredWho ever said I am a Labour supporter.I am an independant minded long suffering citizen. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:36:00 GMT+1 Trevor Mansell I seem to remember that a few weeks ago, the cry was that the BBC was Labour biased. Now it appears that the Beeb is on the side of the Tories. Never mind Auntie, you can't please all the people all of the time. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:34:39 GMT+1 Looternite I have to say that the Tories plan for this "volunteer Service Corps" ,or whatever it is called, has merit but if done properly will not be cheap.As I have said before, I was a beneficary of St Harold Wilson's forward thinking "White Heat of Technological Revolution". I was taken on as an apprentice Electronics Technician at a large high tech employer. The employer believed in "character training" as well as the college and work based training.This "character training" included trips to North Wales to trek in Snowdonia, yes it was mid 60's and I did carve my name on a rock at the top of Snowdon.When I was 19 my employer asked me if I would like to go on an outward bound trip to the Lake district.It was a hard month of "character training" and looking back it was great to have done it.However this was part of my apprenticeship and the employer paid for it. Also I think "Health & Safety" was a bit slack.The Tories will never put enough money into this scheme and so as in the past it will be quietly dropped within a couple of years.So I would sugest that this sort of Adventure experience should be part of the post 16 training for those people who are doing courses. It should be fully funded, voluntary and take the youngsters away from the cities and into the wilds.It should not be used for the kids who are on ASBO's or kids who are going through the justice system.It should be for the "Yoof" who are wanting to be part of civilised society. Too often kids only get rewards by first getting into trouble, something else needs to done to deal with these kids. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:33:16 GMT+1 Fearless Fred Sis (5) I'll try when I get back to fast internet connection country. However, I do feel that most of the time, we hear cries of "BBC Bias!" coming from people of obvious political persuasions that are completely contradictory, with both sides feeling that the BBC is biased towards the other side. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:30:17 GMT+1 IMOORE 5.The difference is that Brown has a very poor record to defend, which he couldn't. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:21:51 GMT+1 Big Sister Fred (4) - Try listening again to Wednesday's interview, followed immediately by the interview this morning - the differences are very obvious. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:17:24 GMT+1 Fearless Fred So, we have a labour supporter claiming BBC Bias towards the conservatives, and a Tory supporter claiming BBC bias towards Labour. Hmmmm could there be a case (at least in part) of people seeing what they want to see? Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:11:14 GMT+1 IMOORE 1.The Conservatives have ruled it out, what can the BBC ask about a policy a political party has ruled out?But as for bias, well you only have to look at the BBC sneering about 'someone with a posh accent talking to working class people about a volunteering service' to know which way the BBC bias works for this comes straight from Labour HQ with the BBC peddling Brown's class war. If the BBC thought accent was so important, you might have thought they would have asked Brown about his Scottish accent when he was pushing policies on English people he wouldn't have implemented on his own Scottish constituents in a million years, like tuition fees. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:09:06 GMT+1 Big Sister Looternite, I absolutely agree that Mr. Cameron was let off lightly. I hope he will be called back for a grilling by Mr. Humphrys - thereby, perhaps, restoring balance. I would be interested to hear Evan interviewing Mr. Brown, incidentally. Fri 09 Apr 2010 08:03:37 GMT+1 Looternite So the pro-Tory bias on the BBC Radio 4 flagship programme continues.The least tough interviewer Evan Davis interviews Cameron why not Naughtie or Humphrys.Why didn't he ask about VAT! Why won't the BBC the ask the Tories about VAT.Has the BBC done a deal with Tory central office that they will help Cameron and in return the Tories will see the BBC higher management are going to be "alright" when they flog off parts to their media pals.Humphrys yesterday didn't let Brown get a word in edgeways and yet the sham interview with Cameron this morning it was Evan Davis who struggled to get a word in edgeways.Please PM if you interview a Tory get a statement from them on VAT. We the people would be hit harder by VAT increases than by National Insurance increases. So ignore the instructions from on high, that you have to be easy on the Tories and ask them for a promise on VAT. Fri 09 Apr 2010 07:40:01 GMT+1