Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml en-gb 30 Sun 21 Sep 2014 17:36:23 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml Ellis P Otter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=98#comment62 I was just wondering whether anyone has told Iris Robinson that "Jesus loves you more than you will know - ho ho ho"?I can barely remember the movie but it did involve a similar indiscretion did it not? Mon 11 Jan 2010 18:21:14 GMT+1 Jenny Jones http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=96#comment61 i was so appalled by the effect that alcohol abuse had on my husbandi havent had a drink for 20 years.JJ Mon 11 Jan 2010 18:08:04 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=95#comment60 This post has been Removed Mon 11 Jan 2010 17:27:27 GMT+1 Jenny Jones http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=93#comment59 On rereading my previous post I think it is important to make the point that I am NOT a problem drinker I married one. Jenny Mon 11 Jan 2010 15:48:06 GMT+1 Jenny Jones http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=92#comment58 WOW what a muddle over teenage drinking. My experience of living with and understanding alcohol abuse stretches back nearly 25 years. I have 2 degrees and careers to go with them in unrelated but professional subjects. I already have enough money, property and prestige without needing to add to them or plug a book. To deal with this subject I would need a programme all to myself. The problem of teenage drinking is indeed a huge issue as is the issue of kids who are not acting up but are having their lives messed up by their parents drinking. So lets deal with a few points regarding teen age drinking. Alchohol is a selectively addictive drug. It selects its victims genetically, there are two ways this happens either it travels directly from parent to child or it dodges around missing generations or appearing in uncles ect. Anybody can damage their liver thru excessive drinking the mark of a problem drinker is that they donot stop when this happens. The younger generation does have access to cheap booze so they try it out. The fortunate majority can be relied upon to use their good sense and stop as soon as the warning signs come up. Education will work for those without the dodgy gene. Those with the dogdy gene will continue to drink until they decide to throw in the towel for themselves, some will drink themselves to death or die in accidents. I came from one of those careful middle class homes and I married a problem drinker. My father had done all the things that James had done to protect me and he still had to get in his car and drive across England to rescue me from my drunken husband. The medical proffession were absolutely useless, they had no information or knowledge and no real interest in learning anything. After that it took me it took me 6 weeks to locate the information I required some was unearthed by a freind of mine in the Economist whilst more was supplied by a recovering alcholic who happened to be a DR consultant. Twenty years ago in both Scandanavia and the States all this information was availible. I know women from many different countries affected by this the problem of teen age drinking is universal the only variable factor being the way society responds to the problem or not. The UK is woefully behind in this area and even further behind in helping the teen agers whose lives are being messed up by their drunken parents. The medical proffession continues to use the evidence based argument, I wonder where they get their evidence from. I met Professor Donaldson at a conference and concluded that it was pointless trying to explain something to somebody who doesnt know what he doesnt know. jenny Mon 11 Jan 2010 15:05:14 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=90#comment57 rh 55, Nothing over-serious about that... Mon 11 Jan 2010 10:48:41 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=88#comment56 rh 50, Possibly, but Bacon died from a chill after trying to beat Birdseye to making frozen food by stuffing a chicken with snow in winter to preserve it. Sat 09 Jan 2010 17:10:30 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=87#comment55 ludo 54, Yes, I usually spell it Re. Sat 09 Jan 2010 16:30:55 GMT+1 Redheylin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=85#comment54 51. Doh. Sat 09 Jan 2010 14:48:53 GMT+1 lucien desgai http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=84#comment53 52 MsMcNWas that a deliberate spelling error? Sat 09 Jan 2010 14:27:33 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=82#comment52 Desilu 48, See my 52. Sat 09 Jan 2010 14:11:26 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=80#comment51 Re 47: Ah yes, the old mod sense of humor defecit. Sat 09 Jan 2010 14:10:03 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=79#comment50 #45. redheylinIts just that I heard he was the Greek with dodgy knees. Sat 09 Jan 2010 12:05:18 GMT+1 Redheylin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=77#comment49 47. Ah - was he the one that got stabbed in the arras? Or was that the Polish guy? All I remember is that Rosenkreutz and Goldenstein are dead. (and it suits 'em). Or was it Eisenstein? I just remember this seven-hour film with this ten-minute shot of a bloke riding a horse. It was written by Bacon you know, that's why he called it Hamlet. And Bach wrote the music, as you know. Sat 09 Jan 2010 10:50:18 GMT+1 Roger Sawyer http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=76#comment48 Hey Everyone...Thanks for taking the time to comment. All pretty straightforward, I think. There was a bit of a wait for developments on the DUP story, but I thought Newton Emerson's contribution in the potential fallout was excellent.I also enjoyed the Opera/tubby divas discussion... went slightly off-piste, but Eddie handled it well and it was quite lively. And Tim Harford's number crunching was fun too.Rog Sat 09 Jan 2010 10:48:40 GMT+1 lucien desgai http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=74#comment47 47 Three ShedsLeave the poor man alone! Sat 09 Jan 2010 10:31:34 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=73#comment46 This post has been Removed Sat 09 Jan 2010 09:46:42 GMT+1 needsanewnickname http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=71#comment45 No. Laertes was a character in a play. Sat 09 Jan 2010 09:46:30 GMT+1 Redheylin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=69#comment44 Looternite, I had never heard that. The only time I know Diogenes asked for a stick was to beat the dogs off when he was dead. According to the accounts I've heard of his capture by pirates, he walked into the slave market so proudly that people thought the pirates were HIS slaves.Couldn't be Diogenes Laertius? I'm a Heracleitos fan. And then again, not.On the other hand, "invidulator" might be seen as a coded saying of the roulette addict, for it is the reverses of "rota ludi v(e)ni", "come, o wheel of the game".The Roulettes were Adam Faith's backing band. Sat 09 Jan 2010 08:38:21 GMT+1 needsanewnickname http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=68#comment43 You cynic! He was a bit tubby, though. Fri 08 Jan 2010 23:01:10 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=66#comment42 Since you are such a scholar, redheylin, did Diogenes have Arthritis and need walking sticks. Fri 08 Jan 2010 22:14:29 GMT+1 Redheylin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=65#comment41 Ovid you later Fri 08 Jan 2010 20:58:52 GMT+1 Redheylin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=63#comment40 NB - Captain Scarlet did not write poetry. He is a character in "cluedo". Fri 08 Jan 2010 20:57:37 GMT+1 Redheylin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=61#comment39 No, you are thinking of Pugil, quite a different Roman poet, who wrote the poem "The Enid", later made famous in English as "The Secret Seven against Thebes". He was immortalised in the late lyric "Pugilium Veneris", with its celebrated catch-phrase "Cras pugnet qui nunquam pugnavit". He also wrote a successful soap-opera called "The Georgians".Homer did not in fact exist, he was really another person called Homer, who later appeared in "The Simpsons". That's probably what made you think of Thunderbirds, who were Chris Farlowe's backing band. It's not the word that makes you envious, it is the machine itself. The symbol is not the thing, tra-la, except to the extent that the medium is the message. I hope this is clear, because I think I have been reading too much wikipedia. Fri 08 Jan 2010 20:54:26 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=60#comment38 I thought Virgil was the T'bird character. Or did he write a few verses 'once upon a time'? Fri 08 Jan 2010 20:05:34 GMT+1 needsanewnickname http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=58#comment37 ... but I'm not made envious by this neologism... Fri 08 Jan 2010 20:01:09 GMT+1 ValeryP http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=57#comment36 Horse - 2 - nope, not guilty, our chopping block is deep in snow, not icing sugar. Fri 08 Jan 2010 19:49:24 GMT+1 Redheylin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=55#comment35 28 Certainly "invidulator" is a real word. It is a machine for making you jealous. In Latin it refers to "one who takes a little look in" (ie a Roman peeping Tom), and it is often also encountered as an abbreviation for "in videos of Ulan Bator"."Vigil" is a character in "Thunderbirds".The "Pervidulum Veneris" is a famous late Roman poem, famed for its refrain; "Cras amet qui nunquam amavit". "Pervidulum" refers to the worship of sexual deviance. "Veneris" refers to the result.The poem was made famous in translation by Dean Martin as "Veneris are made of this".In vid you later. Fri 08 Jan 2010 19:27:38 GMT+1 Fearless Fred http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=53#comment34 TIH(34) No Dinner Jacket?!? That's outrageous! I demand that they immediately hie themselves to Saville Row and, from their own pocket, rectify this situation, and provide us with proof that Monday's broadcast is performed as Lord Reith would have approved of.... Fri 08 Jan 2010 19:21:30 GMT+1 The Intermittent Horse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=52#comment33 David (21) - I also have it on good authority that neither Eddie nor Nils wear a dinner suit during the programme! Fri 08 Jan 2010 19:06:29 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=50#comment32 david@21: lighten up! Fri 08 Jan 2010 18:45:58 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=49#comment31 29. Lepus_Madidus - he was lying, this has been the hottest decade on record. You are misinformed. Fri 08 Jan 2010 18:40:12 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=47#comment30 26. concerned_uk_citizen - oh dear oh dear, a sorry state we've come to. If that's an official site, the person who wrote that should be sacked [they used quotes, why?]. It's a spelling mistake of the worst kind, invigilator doesn't even sound like invidulator unless spoken by a drunk. Case of the ignorant teaching the ignorant then. It's an age thing from when teaching spelling went out of fashion - inhibited their creativity or some such new age garbage - most media presenters under thirty seem to think things are deteriating, rather than deteriorating, and there are many other examples. Reminds me of Flowers for Algernon... Fri 08 Jan 2010 18:36:48 GMT+1 evr http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=46#comment29 Well done EM, once again you had a nation listening with baited breath to hear....in this case Elvis spinning. The admonishment to us all to be quiet for Neil Armstrong's missing word still rates as one of my favourite listening moments. EM for PM I say! Fri 08 Jan 2010 18:31:40 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=44#comment28 I'd much rather have that Stats chap from More or Less than celebrity gossip.Can we have the chap from Home Planet on as a guest too? The one that correctly said that temperatures are cooling but fully expects it to start getting warm again soon. Fri 08 Jan 2010 18:30:53 GMT+1 needsanewnickname http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=42#comment27 'Invidulator' - yikes! Is this a real word or a spelling mistake?That ofqual page is a bit dodgy, innit? Fri 08 Jan 2010 18:19:48 GMT+1 steelpulse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=41#comment26 I heard Lord Mandelson again - supposedly answer a question on whether the Prime Minster had had to make concessions to continue in Number Ten Downing Street. But then I examined it - the answer. Like that snowball that fits in a normal fist - the answer - it was allegedly made up of a million snow flakes (Drive - FiveLive - Peter Allen refers.One day - can someone just ask Peter Mandelson what his given name and surname is please. If he says Peter and Mandelson - I may almost be surprised. Fri 08 Jan 2010 18:17:42 GMT+1 concerned_uk_citizen http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=39#comment25 #23 DDNo sorry – not me on Facebook – But I was following Ofqual’s lead - http://www.ofqual.gov.uk/1549.aspx Fri 08 Jan 2010 18:07:08 GMT+1 david http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=38#comment24 Was it that controversial? Fri 08 Jan 2010 18:00:28 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=36#comment23 Goodness me, Republican dissidents are like Patricia Hewitt and Geoff Hoon with real life explosives.That M. Mogadon and Hoon are crypto - Tories is obvious enougth, and if mainland so-called Marxist revolutionary groups are anything to go by, Republican dissident groups are overv 90 per cent MI6 and agents provocateurs.If these self obsessed ostriches watched the news occassionally, we would all live in a safer, less plot prone world Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:56:38 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=34#comment22 20. Are you responsible for this? http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2342447783 the only people using the invidulator variation of invigilator seem to be teens on Facebook! Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:53:38 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=33#comment21 Nice chopper... Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:48:12 GMT+1 david http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=31#comment20 I was concerned about an Elvis Impersonator to sing the Upstairs / Downstairs theme tune. In fact I am concerned about this music full stop. To introduce an item about shares, economy, money with music that personifies the class divide in this country (Victorian, Edwardian or otherwise) and then to say as an aside that Elvis would be spinning is in very bad taste. The over friendly, buddy/buddy relationship between Eddie Mair and Nils Blythe is not conducive to easy listening in the first place. Come on the BBC, could you formalise your affairs please! Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:46:21 GMT+1 concerned_uk_citizen http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=30#comment19 Exams – what is the expected proportion of people that will not be able to take their exams due to bad weather – if 20% or above then the whole thing should be postponed for a month. This would be inconvenient to a lot of people however the organising body should be capable of doing this if not sack them! I can’t stand people in authority saying “we can’t do . . ” when they mean “we have no intention of doing. . “ and if the weather is just as bad in a month postpone it again. Was the excuse that they could not get the invidulators? – with the unemployment level we have, pull the other one. Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:44:04 GMT+1 Redheylin http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=28#comment18 What a load.... I mean; the operatic issues are not being clearly considered. It starts off with "too fat?" and ends up "too old?"I heard it said that "great things can be done with costume and make-up". There were dire warnings of miming supermodels.Nobody said the other thing: great things can be done with microphones. We do not actually need belcanto singers warbling and bellowing any more. The standard of excellence need not be measured in decibels.So we can have Katherine Jenkins.But when they mentioned Mimi and chocolates, I just thought; "conspicious consumption"...... Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:42:04 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=26#comment17 fJd 15, If you did, I'm not bovvered.EtE 16, Names? Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:42:02 GMT+1 funnyJoedunn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=25#comment16 Liked the Elvis upshares...than u vay merch Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:39:55 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=23#comment15 Why are so many TV political pundits male, old and so ugly?Is it because they are good at defending themselves against sexist, ageist and lookist attacks? Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:38:40 GMT+1 funnyJoedunn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=22#comment14 David (7)Did I axe you? Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:37:48 GMT+1 needsanewnickname http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=20#comment13 I've modded myself.New version:So -it ain't over till the skinny teenage girl sings? Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:37:08 GMT+1 funnyJoedunn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=19#comment12 Dear Mr reffozellie,Its not over till the fat lady sings! Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:36:41 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=17#comment11 Weather forecasting.1st Dec 2009.What, then, was the distribution of predictions of temperatures by the Met Office for 1st Jan 2010?How likely was the actual outcome?How Bayesian is the model? For the same pre-conditions what now is the probability of this actual outcome, when re-running the model?What is the distribution for next week?What is the distribution for temperatures this year, nationally and globally? Old Adam says that this sort of cold snap ends with heavy snow from incoming water-laden warm air. The warm air keeps coming and eventually we all get warmer. He says it'll be all over bar the flooding by Wednesday. Is he right? Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:33:44 GMT+1 needsanewnickname http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=15#comment10 This post has been Removed Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:32:06 GMT+1 newlach http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=14#comment9 This post has been Removed Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:32:05 GMT+1 capn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=12#comment8 "He's a numberphile, they can't touch you for it" !nice one Eddie, I laughed out loud! Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:21:58 GMT+1 bright-eyedwendym http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=11#comment7 How typical of this government that the latest announcement - this time on renewables- turns out to be overstated financially as well as every other way, not to start for 4 years etc etc. and so it goes on.I am so so sick of this. Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:20:05 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=9#comment6 BS 1, Glad you axed. Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:02:37 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=7#comment5 Eddie, She's singing, so she must be fat. Fri 08 Jan 2010 17:01:56 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=6#comment4 I hate it when that happens. Fri 08 Jan 2010 16:51:42 GMT+1 Walrus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=4#comment3 Offshore wind farms. Why not bar trawlers from getting into them. Then we have a marine reserve and fish stocks might rise in the North sea etc. Fri 08 Jan 2010 16:51:12 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=3#comment2 Ha! You beat me to it. Fri 08 Jan 2010 16:40:00 GMT+1 The Intermittent Horse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=1#comment1 Big Sis - I suspect that it is ValP trying to log on. Fri 08 Jan 2010 16:39:56 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2010/01/pm_glass_box_29.shtml?page=0#comment0 Is this symbolic of Mr. Ross getting the chop, Eddie? Fri 08 Jan 2010 16:31:56 GMT+1