Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml en-gb 30 Wed 20 Aug 2014 22:34:22 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml mittfh http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=97#comment40 Concerned @23: Funny you should come up with that idea (Westminster Big Brother)...I proposed something similar back on 4th June (ever so slightly tongue in cheek)...http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/06/the_am_glass_box_20.shtml#P81043322 Tue 22 Dec 2009 11:51:23 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=95#comment39 LS 36, I used to shoplift, so I am relieved to hear that a priest finds it acceptable. Although, I didn't steal the tin of ravioli that he suggested. Tue 22 Dec 2009 10:14:44 GMT+1 RotherhamJohn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=92#comment38 I switched off at 5:15pm after hearing the importance given to the announcement of a leaders debate prior to the next election. This may be important news to journalists and broadcasters but to ordinary people it's irrelevant until the actual event. Mon 21 Dec 2009 19:20:40 GMT+1 Joe Walker http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=90#comment37 37 was for JohnathanMorse (26). Sorry. Mon 21 Dec 2009 18:29:40 GMT+1 Joe Walker http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=87#comment36 I'm not convinced the personality - or apparent lack of it - of a leader makes any real difference in a crisis. If we consider the 9/11 events, Bush turned out to be an embarrassment, despite his popularity being based largely on his carefully crafted, but entirely false, macho Texan image. In the end though, this didn't make any difference because ultimately it wasn't really Bush who was in charge and if US citizens only paid attention to the TV debates, the disasterous policies and attitudes that emerged from 9/11 would have come as a complete surprise. So while we are all preoccupied with voting for our future as if it was the X-Factor, policy can remain at best vague and untested. Mon 21 Dec 2009 18:28:00 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=85#comment35 Hold it a minute DocD, (quite apart from you most offensive attacks on fellow bloggers), don't you think the vicar (who I thought was most inappropriate in his suggestion) might have recommended other recourses of action before resorting to shop-lifting? What about going to the local churches to ask for help? Whatever happened to soup kitchens and shelters for the night? How is it that, in this "season of goodwill" a vicar is saying "go shoplift" and not, "Come to the church and we will try to help you"? Mon 21 Dec 2009 18:10:43 GMT+1 normanmugabe http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=82#comment34 On the subject of the priest encouraging shoplifting, you may wish to read this: Malachi 2: 7-9If you want the entire book of Malachi explaining, go here thetrumpet.com, click on "Literature" and download Malachi's Message for free. Mon 21 Dec 2009 18:09:39 GMT+1 normanmugabe http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=80#comment33 A couple of years after the revolution in Romania, I was in the northeastern city of Iasi (pronounced "Yash"), visiting a friend. I asked him where all the communists had gone. He stared at me with a look of astonishment mixed with pity. "They are the new entrepreneurs," he replied. "They were the ones with the money and the power; and they are still there. Just rebranded."Twenty years later, the secrets of the Securitati are still just that: secret. The nazis did the same. They simply went home and kept their heads down. In the Czech Republic, they were weeded out. Mon 21 Dec 2009 18:07:06 GMT+1 Jonathan Morse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=78#comment32 # 29 I dislike blame but maybe when the government gets the blame for things going wrong it's because they relied on Met reports that we now know are falible. Mon 21 Dec 2009 18:06:16 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=75#comment31 30. newlach - get a life and stop thinking you're so superior. The vicar was speaking of the poor at the end of their tether. 'Criminals' by definition don't need or seek encouragement from religion. Christianity used to be a radical religion, I'm glad it still is for some. All you comfortable, self satisfieds should experience a bit of privation, might make you a little more human and not so condemnatory. Mon 21 Dec 2009 18:00:46 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=73#comment30 25. Patrick Too - unprecedented low temperatures across Europe. Did you miss that? Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:57:42 GMT+1 newlach http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=70#comment29 Can this preacher not be charged with inciting people to commit crime? Life is hard enough for honest people right now - they do not want the cost of their weekly shop to go up while criminals just go out and steal what they want. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:56:54 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=68#comment28 20. jonathanmorse '...how come it says it may 'only' rain south of London'Are you looking for someone to blame? Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:56:16 GMT+1 Jonathan Morse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=65#comment27 Winter solstice - what sun? Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:54:52 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=63#comment26 How enlightened of Christians. What a clear thinking vicar. Anyone who has a problem with it should reflect on just how much money they have and what they do for it. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:54:16 GMT+1 Jonathan Morse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=60#comment25 JW 24 surely what matters is character - 9/11 wasn't predicted, neither was the economic crash, how they handle the unexpected, and whether they're likely to keep their promises, is what matters, The rest we can get from their manifestoes. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:54:13 GMT+1 Patrick Too http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=58#comment24 I remember in the early nineties the South East "Networker" trains failing because of "The Wrong Type of Snow". You'd think that whoever designed the Eurostars might have done some research. It's not as if it's out of living memory - though you sometimes wonder these days! Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:50:37 GMT+1 Joe Walker http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=56#comment23 jonathanmorse (22)The point is, if you want a brain-dead election process, then follow this route. There are are two sides to elections: image and policy. Genuine policy is dangerous, it gets things done and makes real changes. Image is an industry, full of lies and alchemy, oh, and money. Spend enough time and money on playing with image and before you know it, real policy won't matter any more. Think there's a few problems with democracy now? Give it a few years with live TV debates and all the other junk that will come along with it and it really won't make any difference who you vote for. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:38:11 GMT+1 concerned_uk_citizen http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=53#comment22 The three leaders on TV – put them in the Big Brother House with their cabinets and they can be voted out one by one. When it gets down to the last 15 they should have to form a government no matter from which party they are from, electing a Prime Minister between them. The telephone voting could raise cash to pay for their expenses and with typical BB planning a few wild cards could be introduced for the popular vote (more popular than politicians perhaps) oh come on we couldn’t get anyone worse than the usual bunch – Or how about a crossover of Strictly Come Politics and The Weakest Link – or better still take them all out in to the middle of the jungle and leave them there, no, not for TV, just leave them there. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:38:04 GMT+1 Jonathan Morse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=51#comment21 On these TV debates Brown likes to put on an image but doesn't do it very well. I think the real Brown is quite a reasonable person but he doesn't seem to want people to know this. I think a TV debate could be good as we might see the real Brown.He may want policy only to decide things but as he won't say that we can't tell. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:25:48 GMT+1 Joe Walker http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=48#comment20 Why is the BBC so obsessed with "Live TV Debates"? Is this really going to make any difference whatsoever to anything except to increase the general loathing of politicians and cynicism of party politics most people have? Could this self-generated media interest have more to do with the fact that a whole new political event almost certainly owned, managed and choreographed by the BBC will be filling our screens and radios as soon as the call comes?I dread the day when we take yet another step towards an election process that looks more like a series of toothpaste commercials than it does any genuine move towards making our world a better place to live.Listen to these commentators! They make no apologies at all about referring only to how their respective party leaders will look and sound on telly. It's really hopeless that Eddie hasn't asked them whether they think the genuine interests of democracy will be served by this rubbish. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:21:18 GMT+1 Jonathan Morse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=46#comment19 17. The weather forcast on the BBC's news channel is no snow south of London. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:20:44 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=43#comment18 15. Lady Sue - there needs to be a public inquiry at the very least. Strikes me the solution to this problem, which I correctly surmised on hearing about it [later confirmed by Eurotunnel], is to increase the airflow out of the tunnel, drawing in air at the outside temperature. If there's no air conditioning equipment, there certainly should be, or do workers have air supplies? Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:17:19 GMT+1 Jonathan Morse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=41#comment17 This Eurostar problem may be about cooling, we know car engines work badly when their cold yet have cooling systems to stop them overheating. If you expect trains to be going through really cold air you might want to restrict the air flow going into the mechanics. If it then enters a warm tunnel the cooling effect will be less and your systems may overheat. You probably need a compromise.Also if the intakes are really cold then enter a tunnel full of moist air might the moisture freeze and block airflow, the airflow of air that isn't really cold enough to cool the systems. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:16:35 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=39#comment16 14. jonathanmorse - do you understand the meaning and use of the word 'may'? Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:13:37 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=36#comment15 There goes Eddie, acting like Eurostar have committed something akinto the holocaust. Come on, it's real life, stuff happens, it's the weather! People can't just carry on getting everything they want like spoiled children. Sometimes the weather makes things impossible, we are not all powerful, we cannot command the waves any more than Cnut. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:11:58 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=34#comment14 "Winterisation"? Next it will be referred to as "Snowgate". Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:08:51 GMT+1 Jonathan Morse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=31#comment13 If the BBC weather forecast is so good how come it says it may only rain south of London yet it's snowing in Croydon and Gatwick is closed. Mon 21 Dec 2009 17:08:40 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=29#comment12 Well done, Nils, an excoriating attack on the well off minority, as the Ftse enriches them to the tune of a further 20 to 25 billion today!I agree, Nils, when ARE they going to surrender to the principles of equality and social justice, and give up their money pumps, their cash cows, their money trees? For that is what shares, truly the calm evaluation of our firms and industries, have become.That is what you said, isn't it Nils. And tomorrow you'll say it again? Wonderful. Mon 21 Dec 2009 16:56:38 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=26#comment11 Huh, think that's a whinge? ;-) Mon 21 Dec 2009 14:19:47 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=24#comment10 Think you did that already. Mon 21 Dec 2009 13:59:26 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=21#comment9 The PM email just arrived at 1.36. I demand an apology, it's late, it's upset my plans, I'm going to have a whinge. Mon 21 Dec 2009 13:40:26 GMT+1 DoctorDolots http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=19#comment8 Perhaps this is really the AM Glass Box mislabeled? Sort of goes with the non-arriving emails.I'm struck by the way people whine over everything that frustrates their plans, even the weather - somebody must be responsible, somebody owes me an apology [I heard one woman complaining that no one from Eurostar had apologised to her, how precious is that?].When shown news of the US, New York I believe, we had people getting on with it, coping as best they could, accepting what the weather had thrown at them, making the best of it. Cheerful.It used to be like that in the UK, we got on with it and coped. These days, many seem to think they are entitled to instant gratification on time, whatever they deem it to be, and if frustrated in their desires, they whine. The media seek out the whiners, and encourage them to whine to the nation. Nothing can or should mess up our plans their attitude seems to be, there is no power greater than humans. Then it gets exceptionally cold across Europe and a train entering the warm, damp air of the tunnel ices up and shorts out. Stuff happens, people cope because they have to, and there may not be someone to blame or to apologise, and anyway, what's an apology worth, too easy to say to have much meaning.Is it connected to the increasing numbers of kidults around? There seem to be a lot of people who haven't quite grown up, who must have the latest toys to play with - what else are all the mobiles and other hand-held electronics but toys? They walk around the street playing with them, they even drive playing with them, ads are aimed at them and are indistinguishable from ads aimed at kids [the kind who are under ten]. Are Americans just more used to [expected to] coping and being self reliant? Have we become a nation of inadequates who have to have everything perfect and on time with no disruption to our desire to be there, have that, do this? Seems a significant percentage of UK citizens still think the world revolves round them, will the flooding we can look forward to in coming years also be someone else's fault? Or will they finally admit that their 'right' to travel whenever and wherever they wish might be part of the problem? How long before they restrict themselves and their rich lifestyle [I'm talking global, we are all part of the rich world, certainly those who fly or travel hundreds of miles for a weekend break or a shopping trip to pick up cheap alcohol to get blind drunk on], and stop whingeing every time the weather turns bad? Mon 21 Dec 2009 13:39:18 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=17#comment7 'Ice on the rails derails PM Blog?' Mon 21 Dec 2009 13:31:42 GMT+1 mittfh http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=14#comment6 Unless someone's invented a time machine, I fail to see the logic in commenting on what happened a programme that won't be broadcast for another six hours...Now if you were asking us to comment on Today, that would be another matter entirely... Mon 21 Dec 2009 11:23:02 GMT+1 U14250170 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=12#comment5 Heard nothing in Monday's programme worth commenting on. Mon 21 Dec 2009 11:15:16 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=9#comment4 Must be the day of the Christmas Party. Mon 21 Dec 2009 10:09:53 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=7#comment3 Am I in a different time zone? Must be all the snow accelerating things. Oops no, can't be that. It stops trains. Mon 21 Dec 2009 09:59:10 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=4#comment2 annasee 2, Stop harping on about it... Mon 21 Dec 2009 09:51:26 GMT+1 annasee http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=2#comment1 Gosh, Monday went so quickly! I'm not even dressed yet, but already it's time to comment on PM. I think you're messing with our minds again. I've only got a tenuous grasp on reality at the best of times, & now I think I've missed a day... Mon 21 Dec 2009 09:49:55 GMT+1 davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_16.shtml?page=0#comment0 Er, PM Glass Box at 9:13 in the morning? Mon 21 Dec 2009 09:38:22 GMT+1