Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml en-gb 30 Thu 10 Jul 2014 14:28:22 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml davmcn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=97#comment40 Same old boring Glass Box. I give up... Wed 09 Dec 2009 10:34:13 GMT+1 Aperitif http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=95#comment39 Imoore (1), you aren't the same chap who rang the Redcar MP's office about this story yesterday are you? Wed 09 Dec 2009 10:27:05 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=92#comment38 Ah, Lucien, I can see you are unfamiliar with silk and linen ;o) Wed 09 Dec 2009 09:00:25 GMT+1 lucien desgai http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=90#comment37 37 BigSisDon't bother - the creases drop out of clothes once they've been worn for a couple of hours. Wed 09 Dec 2009 08:46:29 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=87#comment36 Eddie: I feel like that about my ironing (see another thread) - Any help much appreciated. ;o) Wed 09 Dec 2009 08:14:30 GMT+1 eddiemair http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=85#comment35 18 - I really don't know where to start. Wed 09 Dec 2009 07:57:06 GMT+1 candysha http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=82#comment34 Seems so sweet. Wed 09 Dec 2009 02:34:52 GMT+1 stevep http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=80#comment33 10. At 5:55pm on 08 Dec 2009, concerned_uk_citizen wrote:8 L_MI’m not sure about the government wanting students in university to fuel a knowledge economy, I think it just keeps them off the unemployment figures (for a short while anyway) Partly off the unemployment figures, partly to claim 'look we have x% in full time education' regardless of the merit of the education, its relevance to the economy and the actual needs of the students. Hence cheap courses are more attractive to the authorities as they can fund more students. The fact those often aren't the courses the country needs or that the students can be dumped out of their courses by greedy and incompetent officals doesn't mean a damn to the people in power. Steve Tue 08 Dec 2009 22:07:31 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=78#comment32 #30 GeeDeeSeaThat's funny, "independent nation of EU." Tue 08 Dec 2009 21:17:47 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=75#comment31 #26. IMOOREThat's right, why can't the English have a parliament with the same powers as the Scottish parliament.Why won't the BBC discuss the English parliament.Why is it fair for members of my family who live in scotland have more democracy than me.Why is it fair that my cousins living in south Wales and Belfast have more democracy than me.Perhaps, we need to collectively put in a claim for discrimination to the European court of Human rights. Tue 08 Dec 2009 21:15:31 GMT+1 GeeDeeSea http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=73#comment30 @newlach #5The massive failings of the Student Loans Company can be explained quite easily: incompetence. Tue 08 Dec 2009 21:14:05 GMT+1 GeeDeeSea http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=70#comment29 @Looternite #13Not difficult to imagine now with EU. (Luxembourg and Malta only have populations of around 0.5 million). Scotland votes for independence, becomes independent nation of EU. England and Wales do the same. NI decides whether to be independent state or part of ROI. Tue 08 Dec 2009 20:59:28 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=68#comment28 4.The warming seems to go up in a ratcheted way.It jumps, then hangs round at that level for a few years, then jumps again. But eight such 'holding' years before the next jump seems as many as there have been so far.But there was a longer more complex overall holding period from 1942 into the 1980s:http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gifCheers. Tue 08 Dec 2009 20:52:10 GMT+1 GeeDeeSea http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=65#comment27 @OldSaltoftheSea #4Fact: 1998 is the hottest year ever recorded. Since then temperatures have remained high. Fact: 8 out of the 10 hottest years on record occurred in the last ten years, but without quite reaching the same peak in 1998. Fact: we have witnessed an increase in the mean decade temperature. Your quote needs qualification. Tue 08 Dec 2009 20:49:49 GMT+1 GotToTheEnd http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=63#comment26 It's an interesting fall in the Ftse. Big enough to be worthy of comment.It was the same across Europe.And to date the Dow.The contagion is the same every time.Are market makers pleased or worried that the UK is still in recession? Is Dubai a worry? Is RBS to be clobbered again?Who else cops it on this one?You see, the falls are real, the rises fantasy.It's a speculative bubble pumped up by Diseasing money, regularly deflated by uncertainty punctures.Why, only yesterday, we were happy. China reminded of who's in charge, the crash to be continued next year if necessary.[By 2005/6 it was clear coming anti-China deflation would be spectacular but ultimately milder than the 1930's against Germany. It didn't work then.]Eventually the market makers check that everyone understands that US-UK capital has China, Japan and India by the curleywurlyes and the Europe of Merkel, Sarkosi and Berlusconi still in its thrall.[More of the world, in fact, than it wants? No, those not with them are against them]And then markets returns to their pleasant fantasy world of bidding up their own assets for as long as Mervyn is Diseasing them and we, the majority here, are prepared to let Merve and the Banksters get away with it.Beyond doubt, beyond risk, in their own world the Banksters see themselves are free lunch, free riders entitled to the riches of Creosus[I'm 99 per cent certain], to be paid for by everyone else.How do they come in and ouut of these phases of market psychology? One answer is numerology, FIRST pointed out here by Jo Carr the Editrice who explained that Nils was holding off commenting on the Ftse for a big bang piece when it crosssed the PI (don't want to spell it out, it might spook the horses) 5000 mark. Which it did in the second week of September, by which time our (then) 75 billion of QDE had made the markets and the better off majority over 300 billion!(Have you noticed that the only part of the economy that corresponds to Mervyn's V shaped recovery (bottoming out at the end of Q1, as he originally had it (the V has gone west (or rather, east) ever since) is the FTSE that he personally has pumped 200 billion into).May he be rewarded with a peerage and a host of non-executive bank appointments when he retires from active Quantitative Easing. Tue 08 Dec 2009 20:40:54 GMT+1 IMOORE http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=60#comment25 "The UK comprises England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales."Well all apart from England have had the opportunity to decide their constitutional settlement. Its long over due for English people to get asked what they want. Tue 08 Dec 2009 20:40:38 GMT+1 Sindy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=58#comment24 OldSeaSalt @ 4The two propositions are not incompatible. I can explain if you want (or need). Tue 08 Dec 2009 20:24:55 GMT+1 astrocan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=56#comment23 I heard this morning that if I cycle even more, spend longer in the dark, eat my own home made compost, and wear yet another jumper it will be OK for the toffs to go skiing in Dubai..... I don't think so. Tue 08 Dec 2009 20:11:10 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=53#comment22 backspaceannasee, I thought so too! There were two 'weasels' he skewered and I was so leppin' about the kitchen when he was doing it. Complete confirmation of my adoration for and addiction to PM. Tue 08 Dec 2009 19:59:13 GMT+1 annasee http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=51#comment21 I think Eddie skewered the Lammy tonight. Never heard such a neat kebab job. Tue 08 Dec 2009 19:55:18 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=48#comment20 Looternite, you are a tad tetchy. Please don't go looking for offense when none was intended. Tue 08 Dec 2009 19:46:19 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=46#comment19 Lucien: I didn't suggest that Looternite was doing anything wrong. Merely an observation. You say: "...for people in the UK to discuss the country's constitutional settlement..."The UK comprises England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. Presume when you say "the country's" you refer only to England? If I may, perhaps you need to examine your own "English" standpoint here? Tue 08 Dec 2009 19:44:02 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=43#comment18 #15 Lady Sue"Looternite: there you go again."What agreeing with William Munny.Oh and are you going to have a go at IMOORE whilst you are about it. Tue 08 Dec 2009 19:37:55 GMT+1 doug small http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=41#comment17 Eddie - what's all this "T M Zee" every time you talk about Tiger Woods. Were you not taught "Zed" in what i am sure must have been an excellent dundee education ?I could go on - why have we just fallen into saying nine- eleven ?it is eleven nine on this side of the pond.And don't get me started on Colin Powell. Tue 08 Dec 2009 18:56:27 GMT+1 IMOORE http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=39#comment16 " Perhaps he lacks the personal interest that an English Chief Executive would have. "You mean like Gordon Brown, he who marshalled Scottish MP's to vote tuition fees on English students, though ensures Scotland is so well funded they don't have to have tuition fees there. It comes down the problem of having the policies for England drawn up on the playing fields of Scotland, when those Scots won't have to endure those very same policies. Tue 08 Dec 2009 18:53:11 GMT+1 lucien desgai http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=36#comment15 15 Lady SueI'm not sure that i'm convinced by the case for an English parliament, however ....it is perfectly acceptable and proper for people in the UK to discuss the country's constitutional settlement. The need (or otherwise) for an English parliament is a central element of the debate, Looternite is doing nothing wrong by raising the issue. Tue 08 Dec 2009 18:38:29 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=34#comment14 Eddie was on brilliant form tonight! Really good programme and one that should have any potential weasles quivering in their boots.Looternite: there you go again. Tue 08 Dec 2009 18:27:04 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=31#comment13 I've just eaten my tea and cleaned the dishes. My hands now have that damp tea towel odour. Tue 08 Dec 2009 18:25:00 GMT+1 Looternite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=29#comment12 #11. William MunnyIf the English had their own parliament then they could have the same as the Scottish system.What do we want: An English ParliamentWhen do we want it: Now Tue 08 Dec 2009 18:22:43 GMT+1 steelpulse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=26#comment11 Mr David Lammy I feel accepted "ownership" of the Students Loan Company doings - and then in my opinion did all he could to distance himself from the bad news and criticism of the Report. I actually stopped with tea towel in my hand my drying tea things - lol - when he appeared to jump over Eddies question and went straight to alleged alternative answer list - as Mr Mair pointed out. To something he - Mr Lammy could allegedly answer - by way of the old "what is important is..." gambit. Were I a student affected by this business - I would not be impressed by this defence. I repeat PM. I would make a rubbish MoP if I had to answer questions in that mode. I will stick to my tea towel duties. I learnt washing up etc at Catering College too, Ms Quinn - so not an admittance at all of another weakness. Professional dryer up-er, me! lol Tue 08 Dec 2009 18:15:11 GMT+1 William Munny http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=24#comment10 The heavily subsidised Scottish Parliament is so flush with money from the Westminster Parliament that Scottish students do not have to pay university tuition fees. I therefore find it interesting that the individual who is making such a mess of running the student loans company is a Scot. Perhaps he lacks the personal interest that an English Chief Executive would have. Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:56:11 GMT+1 concerned_uk_citizen http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=21#comment9 8 L_MI’m not sure about the government wanting students in university to fuel a knowledge economy, I think it just keeps them off the unemployment figures (for a short while anyway) Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:55:47 GMT+1 RxKaren http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=19#comment8 I have every sympathy for the students because ten years ago I was there myself. The SLC messed up in 1999 and again many students were affected by delays in getting their loans. I was told by the SLC that I didn't exist despite the fact that they'd already arranged one student loan with me in the previous academic year. The Government Minister helpfully went on record in early November to say that if a student was still waiting for their loan then it was the student's own fault. I finally got my loan at the end of November.The issue then was that it was never one call to sort anything out and nothing seemed to be documented properly on the calls they received from students. It took an absolute age to get through to anyone at the call centre. They don't seem to make the same mistakes when it comes to collecting the payments though. Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:53:05 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=17#comment7 So the government wants most school leavers to go to Universities as we need to participate in the 'knowledge economy' but isn't prepared to support them by allowing the students to get the finances they need to study? Sounds like students, like our soldiers are woefully unsupported. Reading the KH HTPCT report I can only wonder what does this government support? I know Brown didn't rate Jedward. Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:49:01 GMT+1 IMOORE http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=14#comment6 " Is this not a public body where is the transparency? "Its something that Government has shoved off their books so they can say 'Nothing to do with us Guv'. Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:43:52 GMT+1 concerned_uk_citizen http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=12#comment5 The student loan fiasco is blamed on ‘new technology’ this is the excuse that is used like ‘health and safety’ to cover up incompetence. This ‘new technology’ as I understand it was using scanned documents which they then ‘lost’ this is not ‘new’ technology, it is used widely, so if this is the cause of the problems one has to ask what were the management team doing? Is this not a public body where is the transparency? Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:41:41 GMT+1 newlach http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=9#comment4 This is shocking news about the massive failings of the Student Loans Company. The National Union of Students is right to call for heads to roll. While well-paid quangocrats gobble up public money, students' lives are being made a complete misery. I just hope no student nurses or doctors that our country much needs drop out of their courses because of this fiasco. Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:41:19 GMT+1 OldSaltoftheSea http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=7#comment3 The warmest decade? "Despite the inexorable rise in CO2 concentrations, the past decade has witnessed no warming" - Dr T.D.Allan , CEO, Satellite Observing Systems; Letters page The Times today. Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:34:10 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=4#comment2 Perhaps the Baghdad Taxi driver was moaning about buses and said 'mass transportation'? Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:18:52 GMT+1 concerned_uk_citizen http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=2#comment1 ‘There was no intention to mislead’. . . . umm . . .I think there was. Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:16:37 GMT+1 IMOORE http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/pm_glass_box_9.shtml?page=0#comment0 Mandelson has said he is giving £30 million to help the 1700 workers in Redcar who have lost their jobs, not quite so well publicised is the role the EU carbon trading scheme has perhaps played in them losing their jobs. Tata, the group owning Corus Redcar looks as if it will pocket £1 billion widfall from closing the plant, a windfall they get from the EU's ETS (Emission Trading Scheme) . Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:13:43 GMT+1