Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml en-gb 30 Thu 21 Aug 2014 21:34:44 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=94#comment16 I'm stuck on page 21. 10.15.X wasn't good reading. I am feeling fortunate that GOSH whipped out my tumour in the last century. Seems like I, and my family got much better care then. Wed 09 Dec 2009 22:32:44 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=88#comment15 newlach, there's usually never any need to ask. ;o)I still can't open it. Wed 09 Dec 2009 06:33:57 GMT+1 newlach http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=82#comment14 Looby-LewisThank you for explaining what PAs are. I've just had a quick look at the relevant parts of the Report (13.4)(13.5)(14.1) and it was Dr Holt who, on her return to work, wanted her PAs reduced to 8 as her workload was "unsustainable" and she had "family issues". She was informed that this could not immediately be arranged. Dr Holt considered her workload excessive when it was 10.5 PAs. It would be good to know how many patients a CCP would normally see during 1 PA. If I have written any nonsense would someone please let me know! Tue 08 Dec 2009 22:57:59 GMT+1 Sindy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=76#comment13 Bunny - an anecdote, as I thought. Tue 08 Dec 2009 20:21:55 GMT+1 Looby-Lewis http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=70#comment12 PA's - Programmed Activities. Consultants contracts are usually for 10 PA's per week if they are full time under the Consultant Contract. Presume that if the Dr's contracted time was dropped from 10.5 PA's (which would be over the contract) to 8 PA's with the same workload this would be where the overloading came from. A PA is a session (typically a morning or afternoon) , generally to do an activity such as an Outpatient clinic, a theatre list, or managerial or academic work for example. Tue 08 Dec 2009 20:15:08 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=64#comment11 Sindy, 2 people I was ferrying across my city in the car I was driving back in March when I moaning about Geert Wilders not being allowed in the Country. I mentioned it as one of them had seen that film Kandahar, and they both knew the Art House cinema that showed it. That's how I got into that chat, they knew the place where I saw Kandahar. It wasn't just a random foaming at the mouth rant.Kandahar didn't actually show Madrases in a good light did it?They also seemed to think that it was OK for people to be Scientologists too.'Evil spirits'? Well it's been documented on Radio 4 that With Doctors in London have been staging exorcisms on children possessed by the devil. If you pay them that is.How can we be fighting for British values, or Western vales, or civilised values in Afghanistan if we don't actually have any.Witch Doctors, Scientologists and Intelligent Design Creationists are beliefs that need to be refuted. Tue 08 Dec 2009 18:01:32 GMT+1 newlach http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=58#comment10 Most people I know consider their workload "excessive". Dr Holt "may have provided a more intensive level of care to the children that she cared for than other CCPs", but I would like to know how exactly a CCP spends her time at work. What is meant by 10.5 PA's and what difference would a reduction to 8 PA's mean? (quickly skimmed so I might have missed something very obvious!) Tue 08 Dec 2009 17:21:06 GMT+1 Sindy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=52#comment9 Bunny @ 6"Many in the public sector believe, or instructed that every belief system and way of life is valid, even this notion that children can be possessed by evil spirits." - Any evidence for this assertion? Tue 08 Dec 2009 16:51:37 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=47#comment8 I was wondering if there should be a little icon for each of the participants as it's difficult to keep track, understand who is who.A little graphical representation for each person with a key at the front? Tue 08 Dec 2009 16:48:49 GMT+1 steelpulse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=41#comment7 Can I - I find reading acronyms difficult and the following are peppered throughout report in their acronym form - I looked the last one up. I hope I got that correct?GOSH = GREAT ORMAND STREET HOSPITAL NHS TRUSTHTPC = HARINGEY TEACHING PRIMARY HEALTH TRUSTCDC = CHILD CARE DEVELOPMENT CENTRETUPE = The Transfer of Undertakings (Protection of Employment) Regulations Sorry Ms Carr - I also must admit I skimmed towards the end - no disrespect to the importance of every word of the Report but detailed after "the fact" personnel matters and a very detailed recording of them and attempted resolutions.I was surprised some who were thought to be relevant witnesses declined to participate? Which meant it was voluntary in some instances and maybe unheard views? Allegations of staff being overworked. Budget cuts recorded. Staff sickness and recruitment difficulties also. Poor relationships between management and clinical staff levels allegedA conflict resolution expert to be employed is recommended? And the return to work under Occupational Health advice of one employee –also recommended and better records (and documentating of) formal Trust procedures.Conflict of evidence on what role one employee had between employee themselves and another.April 2008 transfer of personnel from HTPC to GOSH employment - perhaps another possible cause of difficulties or distraction at an important time? As was the workload increase due to staff departures and also cited staff sickness.Partly following the Baby P case – an improved budget and presumably and perhaps partly as a result, improvements in some areas cited. Nothing jumped out at me but many - much too many work places distractions noted. Tue 08 Dec 2009 16:21:04 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=35#comment6 Eddie and Jo: I clicked on the report link but twice got a message saying it was "damaged and could not be repaired" - though I can see it has an NHS logo in the top left. Might be a gremlin in the works? Tue 08 Dec 2009 16:20:07 GMT+1 Lepus_Madidus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=29#comment5 I've got to page 11. I should have made notes. It reminds me of helping my friend mark the homework for his Maths class or reading BS7799.8.1 is sticking in my craw. The hospital and Social Workers didn't kill Victoria Climbié did they?Her parents gave her away. Many in the public sector believe, or instructed that every belief system and way of life is valid, even this notion that children can be possessed by evil spirits.Mud sticks? Tue 08 Dec 2009 16:18:39 GMT+1 steelpulse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=23#comment4 Jo Carr, eh? She of that backward glance that brooks no refusal asked, Eddie? lolOK. 2.20pm. I plan to read - not shop. Tue 08 Dec 2009 14:23:05 GMT+1 jonnie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=17#comment3 Read the report or have a browse around John Lewis?Decisions decisions!See you later...... Tue 08 Dec 2009 13:59:24 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=11#comment2 Eddie, would Jo spare you for an hour's ironing? I could really do with an extra pair of hands ... Tue 08 Dec 2009 13:48:55 GMT+1 gossipmistress http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=5#comment1 I read that headline and thought you wanted something read out on air Tue 08 Dec 2009 13:23:14 GMT+1 Sindy http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/12/would_you_like_to_read_a_repor.shtml?page=0#comment0 I've read the report, and sent you some comments separately ... my main conclusion is this:Conclusion: whoever was responsible for maintaining the vision of the CDC has allowed it to slip out of view, with priority now being given to managerial and accountancy issues. (I’m assuming that the vision would refer to good doctors following best practice for the children in their care, with the support of the rest of the team.) Tue 08 Dec 2009 12:52:56 GMT+1