Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml en-gb 30 Sat 12 Jul 2014 16:01:19 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml kathymallam http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=96#comment26 The new style weather forecast is great - it actually tells you what is likely to happen in your area instead of wandering aimlessly around the country. I do a lot of outdoor activities, and it helps me plan ahead. Please keep it up and spread it to other times. Kathy Sat 31 Oct 2009 12:49:25 GMT+1 theotherdaughter http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=92#comment25 Like the format - two requests - with others I would like wind speed and direction, and I would find it easier to follow still if - in true shipping forecast style it went in a clockwise direction. Then it might be close to perfect.tod Thu 22 Oct 2009 12:29:11 GMT+1 Forthwrite http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=88#comment24 Map: But not how the weather works. 'Eastern' Scotland contains the v. mild Moray Firth, the wild summits of the Cairngorms, and the chill North Sea coast. Normal idiom, by the way, is 'the East of Scotland'. And, please take note, there is NO SUCH PLACE as HIGHLAND.Unless the presenter can speak concisely and grammatically, who would trouble to listen? The simple forecast immediately before 10pm would be the best template: written, edited and spoken with authority. Only then can we escape the horrors of wonky prepositions, garbled tech-speak and fake chuminess, delivered in estuarine (see South East - that's England, I assume). Thu 22 Oct 2009 12:23:47 GMT+1 StratoNimbus http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=85#comment23 I much prefer the new sytle weather forecast, it's a big improvement. It's much easier to identify the weather for my own area. Some people have complained about having to refer to the map, but the majority of people will know which area they are in without having to look. And you only need to look once to confirm which area you fall in to. To be effective though, the new style does have to be followed by all the Weather Presenters. Thu 22 Oct 2009 11:31:37 GMT+1 greysuperweasel http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=81#comment22 Thank you, thank you, thank you for the new format. We had almost decided that we were suffering from early onset dementia, but now find that the forecast is actually memorable.But please don't let the forecasters return to the habit of missing out the North West altogether - we might not be fashionable up here, but we do have lots of weather. We just hope that the relocation of the BBC to Manchester might remind the Met office that it can't always be London-centric.... Thu 22 Oct 2009 11:15:39 GMT+1 oldpops http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=77#comment21 Always listen to PM on my drive home from the office and must compliment you on the new format for the weather which is clear, concise and a massive move forwards (or is it backwards). Always listen to the Today Programme on my drive in to the office who invariably miss out Wales altogether from their forecast so please please please persuade them to adopt the new format. Thu 22 Oct 2009 11:08:30 GMT+1 Tango4C http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=74#comment20 Wonderful - no mention of 'wet weather gear' or other such inanities. Please extend this format to all weather forecasts. Ta Thu 22 Oct 2009 10:37:44 GMT+1 mittfh http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=70#comment19 Yes, yes, yes!But enough of the shampoo [1], please keep this new weather format. It's much clearer and easier to follow than the 'traditional' forecast, and by tying the expected temperatures to particular locations, also ties in with the TV version.[1]Mercifully, Clairol have now ditched that particular campaign. Thu 22 Oct 2009 10:29:42 GMT+1 noblenitram http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=66#comment18 I agree with chrisaddlestone. The wind strength and direction is very useful for cyclists, walkers and small craft sailors on inshore waters. It just needs to be in the form: 'light south westerly' or 'strong south easterly'. Otherwise very good effort. Thu 22 Oct 2009 09:34:25 GMT+1 Sid http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=62#comment17 Giulio - genius! Thu 22 Oct 2009 08:25:34 GMT+1 chrisaddlestone http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=59#comment16 The forecast is much much better! However, I do wish that the expected wind DIRECTION as well as strength should be included. The adoption of a standard order for the various regions to be dealt with, is far more satisfying. I would also point out that that it helps no end, if the presenter speaks clearly, and does not 'gabble' as one notorious lady. Thu 22 Oct 2009 08:25:11 GMT+1 crow-brain http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=55#comment15 thank you PM, weather forecast is much improved, clearer and more memorable... please can we keep the format for all forecasts now - particularly the 06.57... vitally important for deciding on the outfit for the day! Thu 22 Oct 2009 08:18:06 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=51#comment14 Eddie, why don't you invite Mr. Lezard onto the programme and give him a good, Mair-style grilling? He doesn't seem to get it, does he?The experiment has shown that a consistent, clear approach makes it much easier for listeners to get the relevant information for their purposes. Even my SO has noticed the improvement - and he had absolutely no knowledge that there was an 'experiment' in progress! Wed 21 Oct 2009 22:35:35 GMT+1 shppingforecastfan http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=48#comment13 Re: 11. ..... windy,.....! Wed 21 Oct 2009 21:24:33 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=44#comment12 the likes of Thomas ShafernackerIs it just me that thinks of sea shanties every time I see his name? Perhaps he should be made to sing the weather:I heard, I heard, the weather man say,Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ay!Today will be a sunny day,Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ay!ChorusTu-lai-ay, Oh! Tu-lai-ay!Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ay!Rain tomorrow, but not today,Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ay!Sun in parts, but mostly grey,Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ay!Chorusetc...('Tis "John Kanaka" btw. AARRR!) Wed 21 Oct 2009 20:24:09 GMT+1 GiulioNapolitani http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=40#comment11 the likes of Thomas ShafernackerIs it just me that thinks of sea shanties every time I see his name? Perhaps he should be made to sing the weather:I heard, I heard, the weather man say,Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ayToday, will be a sunny day,Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ay!Chorus:Tu-lai-ay, Oh! Tu-lai-ay!Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ay!Rain tomorrow, but not today,Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ay!Sunny spells, but mostly grey,Thomas Schafernaker tu-lai-ay!Chorusetc...('Tis the shanty "John Kanaka", btw. ARRR!) Wed 21 Oct 2009 20:17:32 GMT+1 Lady_Sue http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=37#comment10 I definitely have 'weather thread fatigue'. I just don't care any more... let it snow*, let it snow, let it snow.*For 'snow' read: sunshine, hail, rain, showers, cloudy... Wed 21 Oct 2009 19:38:04 GMT+1 Linda http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=33#comment9 Fantastic improvement - clear, factual, memorable. I never knew the forecast, now I am able to discuss the weather with all & sundry with confidence and authority. Do you think you could pass this model on to the political department, in particular Mr Peston whose CBBC style presentation forces me to switch stations every time? Just a thought. Wed 21 Oct 2009 19:32:57 GMT+1 malaria01 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=29#comment8 At last it seems that you have returned us to where some of us remember being! I well remember weather forecasts being delivered by county or groups of counties. Not that I am particularly amnaesic, but I never could remember the weather forcast when it preceded the location - now it's a doddle. Thank you. Please keep this "new" system going, and pass it on to your colleagues who deliver forgettable meteo on the other stations. Wed 21 Oct 2009 19:09:33 GMT+1 megandsadie http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=25#comment7 so good to do away with the meaningless verbosity of the likes of Thomas Shafernacker--you just HAVE to stick with the new format Wed 21 Oct 2009 18:26:52 GMT+1 Gernsheim http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=22#comment6 For those of us who remember the Home Service (and we don't all have bus passes) the 'new' weather seems distictly old, a return to a robust and servicable format that was sadly replaced at the whim of a (presumably) failed author or literary critic who saw the weather forecast as the ideal opportunity to experiment with narrative structure and to destabilise the hegemony of facts by decontextalising them. At last the BBC has realised that we don't want literature, we just want to know where it will be raining. Wed 21 Oct 2009 18:20:54 GMT+1 phiilip http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=18#comment5 Invariably forecasters refer to parts of Scotland as the "Far North". What do they mean? In what way is it different to the "normal" North? Do dragons live there? I never hear the Far South, East or West. Perhaps I can help with the geography. The most Northern Counties on the Scottish mainland are Caithness & Sutherland. Wed 21 Oct 2009 17:47:04 GMT+1 Radnor-rambler http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=14#comment4 Please keep the new style forecast. Much easier to follow and remember -Well done! Wed 21 Oct 2009 17:30:41 GMT+1 acarpesq http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=11#comment3 We have almost got to the stage of switching off the weather forecast, especially if the forecaster is Laura Tobin. We just count how many times she says "towards" (eg, "towards Wales")and how many times she "heads" through the afternoon. And lots of forecasters make a habit of personifying rain - eg, "rain making its way..."The straightforward PM forecast has saved our tempers and reduced our blood pressure. Hope it is universally adopted. Wed 21 Oct 2009 17:21:56 GMT+1 amazingquantum http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=7#comment2 Again, I think that this is a vast improvement. I live in the north west of England and there is a tendency for forecasters (especially on tv) to start in Scotland, travel down the east coast to London, then along the south coast, visit South Wales, across to Northern Ireland and then back to south west Scotland. Thus they neatly miss us and North Wales... often! Wed 21 Oct 2009 17:21:06 GMT+1 SproutGhost http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=3#comment1 Weather Wet, wet, wet!But jolly good presentation. Clear and concise information with little preamble.Splendid stuff.Sprouty. Wed 21 Oct 2009 17:15:58 GMT+1 Geoffrey Aylesford http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/10/the_great_pm_weather_experimen_2.shtml?page=0#comment0 The new format is a vast improvement. By signalling the various well defined areas I can listen to my own (and to where I may be travelling), and gain a good insight of the day ahead without bothering about useless, distrcting information.Keep up the good work! Wed 21 Oct 2009 16:47:24 GMT+1