Comments for http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml en-gb 30 Fri 19 Sep 2014 10:16:55 GMT+1 A feed of user comments from the page found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml HelenSparkles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=94#comment17 Thank you for reading me out on Friday and making me sound better than I could myself. I haven't had time to visit for ages and it was a nice welcome back ;-). Am still in that hammock on the beach for now, Social Workers need a good rest you know. Sat 05 Sep 2009 00:44:59 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=88#comment16 ZE 15, Lessons to be learned... Fri 04 Sep 2009 09:51:29 GMT+1 HelenSparkles http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=83#comment15 It's a job that takes over your life, like many which are so interesting, and I am utterly absorbed by it as well as often drained. For all the headlines, and very regrettable events which get a high profile, millions of families effect change and no longer need social work intervention. I always find it interesting to listen to adults who have needed the support of a social worker in their lives. There is a positive message out there, it just isn't often heard; children in care often tell me how much they value their social worker. Most of the frustrations emerge from working in a large bureaucracy (where the government are trying to measure what is not easily measured), not having enough time to do the theraputic/creative work I would like to, the restrictions of a prescriptive data base (which doesn't meet my needs) and not being respected for being the expert in court (when we are, not when we're not!). At other times when there have been a shortage of social workers, the intakes have been increased, it really appears that the standard was lowered. The profession really needs the brightest people who can bring something to this invaluable role. It isn't good enough just to have more bodies, even if that reduces case loads, because mopping up the not good enough practice of others is a job in itself. Thu 03 Sep 2009 21:41:49 GMT+1 Zorba Eisenhower http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=77#comment14 The killer, Peter Bryan ... social worker's fault, again. Thu 03 Sep 2009 16:05:19 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=72#comment13 fJd 3, I have some I could sell you. Wed 02 Sep 2009 08:27:43 GMT+1 Big Sister http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=66#comment12 The point of using Goldie is, quite simply, that he has been at the receiving end of the profession. I found his comments uplifting and hope that his promotion of their role will help those who have neither been social workers nor needed their expertise to view them in a different, and far more positive, light.The issue of workload needs to be addressed, and there are, as in every profession, some whose contributions are less effective than others, but thousands of people have only social workers to protect their interests. Instead of denigrating the profession, they need to be championed by the public so that they have what they need, primarily time and training, to do their job to the best of their ability. Wed 02 Sep 2009 06:58:30 GMT+1 RJMolesworth http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=61#comment11 It doesn't work for me. Why would a man with a high voice and gold chains fill you with the earnest desire to become a social worker. Tue 01 Sep 2009 21:06:54 GMT+1 Heidicrampton http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=55#comment10 I am a social worker and love my job. With reference to other comments on the blog, I think we are in the best position to question, or at least support our clients to question stereotypes and class marginalisation. I refuse to believe that people do not have aspiration, its lack of opportunities and capitalist beliefs that further marginalise them. Despite the ongoing resource debate, I refuse to accept defeat. I have had too many good experiences, with children at the centre, benefiting from social work intervention.I would like to thank Goldie for bringing the need for my profession to the foreground. Too much energy is focused on the failures of the profession (including the lack of government support i.e. Baby Peter) and not enough is done to promote the paramount interest of the child. Join our profession, it is worth it! Tue 01 Sep 2009 20:33:36 GMT+1 gsccgirl http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=50#comment9 every time the government address this issue they focus on social workers in child care. there are tens of thousands of social workers, dealing with all age groups and situations, vulnerable people in society with disabilties, mental health problems, chaotic lifestyles and terminal illnesses. We are expected to work with colleagues from health who often have no idea how work in the community is structured and have to ask for advice and guidance, and yet, earn considerably more than most social workers. we are a highly trained, graduate only occupation, and yet the public perception is that we are a group of ill-trained do-gooders who are interfering with peoples lives. the amount of paperwork expected from us ,and knowledge of current legislation is huge, but this is not taken into account when we have large case loads of complex cases, requiring skilled work, often delivered on a rapid response basis.recent legislation has led to a flood of referrals relating to vulnerable adults and reports of abuse, all of which have to be investigated, by the social worker.We have a vital role in the community, supporting, and advising and protecting people of all ages, all walks of life and in all sorts of different situations and there is no positive press about this work. anyone can complain about us, and it is very difficult to defend yourself againsta vague accusation, but it cann affect your entire future career. Unrealistic targets, heavy caseloads, constant pressure to perform!it no real wonder no one wants to do it. Tue 01 Sep 2009 20:19:16 GMT+1 Gnome Chomsky http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=44#comment8 I left social work in 2005, shortly after the creation of the GSCC register, to work abroad and escape the constant ethos of blame for anything that might go wrong. I have now returned to the UK and am giving serious thought to returning to social work due to my unending desire for social justice. The GSCC have asked me to pay for all my missing years of registration before they will license me. This means that, in order to leave Jobseekers' Allowance and become a social worker again, I must find 120 pounds (almost 2 weeks' JSA) before I can even start to look for a job. I must also prove to them that I have pursued personal professional development to the desired extent, and get two others to give signatures to confirm this. If offered a job, I will have to wait until I have been in post for up to eight weeks before I can claim back my interview and travelling expenses. I will then be in a position to be sacrificed to soothe public anger over the next child who suffers abuse by a parent or carer.Yes, of course I want to be a primary school teacher, police officer, ambulance driver, ... Tue 01 Sep 2009 17:37:13 GMT+1 BSE_CJD http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=38#comment7 Fortunate to come from a loving family I was overwhelmed upon my first contact with social workers. When I met my current partner she was working as a foster carer with project (difficult) children and slowly introduced me to some of the most harrowing cases she had dealt with. When these young people bring their problems into your own home, the help and support afforded by social workers is invaluable. After a time my partner approached a kind of emotional burn-out and changed to residential caring for young people - not exactly 9-5 but certainly no longer 24-7 and away from her own home. Now, under constant supervision and scrutiny she is rendered less effective as a carer than when she had a certain autonomy whilst fostering. With each of the dreadful cases that go wrong, the government introduce more and more knee-jerk legislation. In the hope of preventing reocurrence of these awful situations they actually exacerbate the situation as more time is spent writing-up their work, less time is available to DO THE WORK. Ask any social worker if they have sufficient time to cover ALL of the cases for which they are responsible. Ask them if they can do everything they would wish to do for these people, these people that Society are unwilling to accept as their direct responsibility and use social workers as to salve their own conscience.I tried it, I know of whence I speak having worked part-time with young people. People that have been "accommodated" by the local authorities for one reason or other and I found rewarding pleasure in their achievements. But positive returns are few and far outweighed by frustrations from lack of resources -not money, but time. Time to do the work, do the job properly, to help overcome the circumstances that have brought these people to be accommodated. I have seen good workers leave the service. Good men and women, doing good work, effective work, positively affecting outcomes for these young people, good men and women overcome by frustration from operating under an organisation top-heavy with management. Records must be kept, I am ex-civil service and understand their worth. But records do not need to be entered two, three, and four times, in different locations all to cover the same occurrences? This surely is a waste of time and people. Time that all concerned cannot afford to waste.I bottled out, went back to the commercial world, went back to engineering where problems are solved with spanners. I am lacking in the right stuff to the work but I play my part supporting my partner where I can, supporting her colleagues, helping them to do that which I cannot. We all should shoulder our responsibility, play our part to help. The Social Services are there to serve society and make us all sociable? Tue 01 Sep 2009 17:36:21 GMT+1 dennisjunior1 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=33#comment6 Eddie:Not interested in becoming a Social Worker...Sorry!!!=Dennis Junior= Tue 01 Sep 2009 17:32:40 GMT+1 Allysocialworker http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=27#comment5 As a social worker employed in front line child protection work I find it utterly frustrating that once again the government are failing to address the problems inherent in social work and instead are trying to create quick fix solutions. Only when the Government start addressing the problem of high caseloads, unrealistic targets and cut down all the needless red tape people will people once again interested in joining the profession. Tue 01 Sep 2009 17:19:34 GMT+1 steelpulse http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=22#comment4 Eddie. No thank you.They were called "Welfare Officers" in my days in "care" and a couple of them were latterly family friends. Neither with us anymore - unfortunately - on that other matter.I selfishly never considered their (Welfare Officers) heavy responsibilities outside my own family unit - back then but my eyes have been opened since.I wish the advertisement for more social workers success. And well done Goldie etc.But me dealing sort of dealing with a younger version of me - still gives me pause.Respect to anyone who does the job. And unstinted admiration for the vast majority I suspect who do the job well. Tue 01 Sep 2009 17:18:09 GMT+1 LanguidLateKate http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=16#comment3 If it was just about helping stressed mums I'd be signing up again but it's the rest of it: the chronic underfunding,lack of resources,culture of blame etc etc etc. When governments are prepared to adequately and effectively fund resources and properly support their workers perhaps we can all progress and I might think about returning to the profession again. Tue 01 Sep 2009 17:06:06 GMT+1 funnyJoedunn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=11#comment2 David,(2) I have no idea. Tue 01 Sep 2009 16:07:47 GMT+1 David_McNickle http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=5#comment1 fJd 1, Isn't Goldie one of the people in that BBC TV competition to conduct an orchestra? Tue 01 Sep 2009 16:02:03 GMT+1 funnyJoedunn http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/2009/09/want_to_be_a_social_worker.shtml?page=0#comment0 Really don't like the stereotype. The problem with all this kind of government stereotypical advert is; they always, without exception, turn the viewers mind away from any direct/indirect governmental responsibility.For instance, because of the bling oriented stereotype used in this advert, my propagandised mind wanted to tell me that these problems occur because the people who need social help are inherently inadequate as people. They never, ever, point to the fact that socioeconomics play a big part and the lack of aspiration of a very large group in society due to class and glass ceilings that keep them always and forever on the bottom couple of rungs of the ladder socially and financially. But, the advert wants to steer you away from thinking that this is a force, a whirl-wind that pervades through the lives, homes, relationships of the very people this advert refers. This whirl-wind of social deprivation is ever present and ever powerful whether the recipients realise this or not. Governments want us to believe there is nothing that can be done other than these people ultimately do it for themselves...a kind of government version of Jeremy Kyle. And so the cycle and whirl-wind goes on and on... Tue 01 Sep 2009 15:56:55 GMT+1